Skip to comments.NRA blasts Holder for attacking 'stand-your-ground' laws after Zimmerman verdict
Posted on 07/17/2013 3:23:31 PM PDT by neverdem
The National Rifle Association blasted Eric Holder for using the George Zimmerman case to attack "stand-your-ground" laws, accusing the attorney general of exploiting Trayvon Martin's shooting death for political gain. Holder weighed in on the controversial self-defense laws for the first time on Tuesday during a speech to the annual NAACP convention, calling for a national review of the statutes.
"Separate and apart from the case that has drawn the nation's attention, it's time to question laws that senselessly expand the concept of self-defense and sow dangerous conflict in our neighborhoods," Holder said. Holder has already confirmed that his Justice Department continues to investigate Zimmerman, in the wake of his acquittal, for possible federal civil rights crimes. But Chris W. Cox, executive director NRA's Institute for Legislative Action, claimed Holder went too far in extending the debate to "stand-your-ground" laws.
"The attorney general fails to understand that self-defense is not a concept, it's a fundamental human right," he said in a statement. "To send a message that legitimate self-defense is to blame is unconscionable, and demonstrates once again that this administration will exploit tragedies to push their political agenda."
The laws are in place in more than two dozen states, including Florida. They allow people to use deadly force if they think their life is being threatened. The role that law played in the shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin is a matter of dispute -- Zimmerman's defense team technically did not use the law as the basis for their arguments.
But Holder, in his speech to the NAACP, suggested that the laws encourage gun owners to seek confrontation rather than avoid it.
"But we must examine laws that take this further by eliminating the common sense and age-old requirement that people who feel threatened have a duty to retreat, outside...,"...
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Self defense be old school sh*t when a brutha dies.
New school is a dead cracka, regardless of the situation.
When H0lder comes clean about F&F, then we’ll talk.
It took NRA long enough.
They should have been ready. God knows I have given them enough $ lately.
The point is: Do not criminalize a legitimate self defense. Why should an innocent person have to go through a year of trials, demonization etc just to be cleared?
SYG moves the bright line more clearly towards the right of self preservation, to make it easier for cops and prosecutors to back off.
He is either wholly and completely ignorant of the law, or he is an abject liar.
I believe he willfully lied to the nation.
Self defense does not require that you "flee." If you feel your life is in immenent jeopardy, you have the right to defend yourself with lethal force. Period.
Stand your ground in Florida does compliment the Self-defense doctrine by making it the legal definition to require that these three questions be answered:
1. Is the individual legally in the spot the incident occurs.
2. If the individual engaged in lawful activity at the time of the incident.
3. Is there reasponable cause to believe that the individual's health or life is seriously threatened.
If it is yes to all three, then the defense is legal.
It then added an immunity court hearing where a Judge is required to find, on the preponderance of the evidence (not beyond a reasonable doubt), that those things are true. If in that hearing the Judge determines that they are, then there is not so much as a grand jury required and the individual is deemed immune to prosecution for standing their ground.
Greta spoke very well last night to Holder's statements and how unbelievable wrong they were.
Finally, in this case. the "Stand your Ground," defense was not even pursued at the trial. There was no need for it. Zimmerman was on his back taking a beating.
It was self defense and not Stand your ground.
Waitin till the initial protests did down.
Next step should be educational. Get on talk shows Buy commercial time. Explain the historic racial background of SYG
Time to go on offense
“In the last 10 years, the number of justifiable homicides has increased by 25.4% from 500 in 1999 to 630 in 2008. The most frequent circumstances cited for justifiable homicides by citizens were the disruption of a crime in progress (55%) or when a citizen was attacked (41%).”
Tell Holder to take a stroll on the Southside of Chicago on a hot Sat night.
It demonstrates that 0bunghole and Holder are utterly lawless thugs who hold no regard for any rights. Only a brazen tyrant would argue against the right of self defense.
“The National Rifle Association blasted Eric Holder”
Don’t get my hopes up like that!
Quite the contrary. We all know who is doing the sowing.
No Eric, the laws encourage criminals to avoid confrontation rather than seek it.
“But Holder, in his speech to the NAACP, suggested that the laws encourage gun owners to seek confrontation rather than avoid it.”
When “St. Martin of the Purple Drank” was shot, he had started a fist fight with an armed citizen.
Black, stupid, and out of control was no way for “St. Martin” to go through life.
It was "lay on your ground" basis. That is under a different subheading.
The nation's top LEO, ignorant of the law. It must be because the laws have become so complicated. That must be the reason for the confusion, since SYG laws were enacted to help clear up the confusion and contradictory layers, in the first place.
Perhaps Holder is just "over tired" like I've heard young mamacitas say concerning their bambinos. Perhaps he needs a baa-baa and a long nap. And a diaper change, too. If he is not full of "it" something surrounding him certainly is. Stinks, too.