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What if Trayvon Had Been White, and the Shooter Black? [real life example - same verdict]
American Thinker ^ | March 24, 2012 | Michael Filozof

Posted on 07/17/2013 7:34:49 PM PDT by grundle

This is not an exercise in mere speculation. We know what would happen in such a case. There would be no white mobs in the street chanting "No justice, no peace!" There would be no whites holding a "million hoodie march" in New York City.

We know this because in fact, such an event occurred in 2009 in Greece, N.Y., a suburb of Rochester. Roderick Scott, a black man, shot and killed an unarmed white teen, Christopher Cervini, whom he believed was burglarizing a neighbor's car, with a licensed .40 cal. handgun.

There are many similarities between the Scott-Cervini case and the George Zimmerman-Trayvon Martin case in Florida. In both cases, there had been a spate of criminal activity in the neighborhood. In both cases, the shooters called 911 to report suspicious activity, yet chose to confront the unarmed suspects outside their residence and off their own property prior to the arrival of the police. In both cases, the shooters claimed that they felt threatened, and fired in self-defense. In both cases, local law enforcement applied relevant state law.

Scott was acquitted by a majority-white jury after claiming that the Cervini charged at him, putting him in imminent fear of his life.

There were no allegations of racial bias. Scott was not charged with a hate crime. There was no Federal civil rights investigation. There were no white protests. The case was settled for what it was: a tragedy caused by a series of poor decisions on behalf of the shooter, and a split-second decision that will forever be second-guessed.

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1 posted on 07/17/2013 7:34:49 PM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

The reason there are million hoodie marches is because the black rabblerousers get what they demand from the guilt stricken white liberals and PC politicians, every time.

It is no different than giving in to a child who throws a temper tantrum every time he/she does not get what she wants and the parents give in. The pattern continues and gets worse with time.


2 posted on 07/17/2013 7:40:51 PM PDT by entropy12 (Even tho Obama is now a lame duck, with 2014 House majority, he will be a dangerously socialist!)
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To: grundle

What if Trayvon was a grey alien and Zimmerman was a shape-shifting reptilian? What if Lee had won at Gettysburg and the South had gone off to win the war? What if Adolf Hitler had been accepted by that art school or killed in World War I when he was a battalion messenger?


3 posted on 07/17/2013 7:41:31 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind each blade of grass.)
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To: grundle

Don’t tell liberals.


4 posted on 07/17/2013 7:47:44 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I was just about to post what you just said!!

Seriesly


5 posted on 07/17/2013 7:51:18 PM PDT by americas.best.days... ( I think we can now say that they are behind us.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What if Lee had won at Gettysburg and the South had gone off to win the war?

Then we wouldn't

Never mind.

6 posted on 07/17/2013 7:51:42 PM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: grundle
Here's another case where a black man shot a white teenager and was acquitted.

Adrian Crump case

None of these analogous cases of black men being acquitted for shooting white teens will convince the angry black lynch mob that they are wrong, though. They are irrational and would rather wallow in their own self-pity and vent the hate they have in their hearts than look at the actual facts of the Zimmerman case, the law, or analogous cases. They are not susceptible to reason or truth. I wish people would stop pandering to them and instead just tell them off.

7 posted on 07/17/2013 7:52:39 PM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
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To: TBP
Don’t tell liberals.

You can't tell liberals anything because they already know everything and can be convinced of nothing.

8 posted on 07/17/2013 7:52:47 PM PDT by DeFault User
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

Thanks for the link.


9 posted on 07/17/2013 7:58:44 PM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

“In both cases, the shooters called 911”

Zimmerman didn’t call 911. He called the non-emergency police number.


10 posted on 07/17/2013 7:58:48 PM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: unlearner
And he didn't confront anyone. He was merely watching where TM was walking and reporting it to the operator who asked “Where is he now” “what is he doing now” then TM disappeared.
11 posted on 07/17/2013 8:01:27 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: grundle

The fact that this story even made it to the national news is further evidence that American culture is in the toilet. About the only thing left is for one more stupid event to make the flush.


12 posted on 07/17/2013 8:05:33 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: grundle
There were no allegations of racial bias. Scott was not charged with a hate crime. There was no Federal civil rights investigation. There were no white protests. The case was settled for what it was: a tragedy caused by a series of poor decisions on behalf of the shooter, and a split-second decision that will forever be second-guessed.

In neither case am I aware of what the shooter did wrong. Both were defending themselves in a place where they had the right to be.
13 posted on 07/17/2013 8:06:21 PM PDT by ronnietherocket3
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To: grundle

Where was all the outrage when this case was going on?

http://www.register-herald.com/local/x519068169/POLICE-OFFICER-KILLED

This 25 year old black man received life with no mercy (no chance of parole). The very first story in the newspaper about what occurred convinced me and a lot of others that this was not premeditated first degree murder. He also lost his appeal, so he will never be free.

I recall when I read this in the paper, I said to my friends, “I’m just a housewife who knows nothing about police work, but if this is the way he was trained to do an undercover drug buy, I need to be teaching at the police academy.”

I prayed daily while this trial was going on because I believed this was the most unfair trial I had ever heard about. I am white, by the way.

Leftwich claimed self defense, but was not allowed to put on any defense about the off duty cop who was buying the drugs. The cop had been drinking and had his girl friend with him but the prosecution claimed he was on an undercover assignment.


14 posted on 07/17/2013 8:08:56 PM PDT by Jude in WV
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

I don’t think telling them off will get the point across.


15 posted on 07/17/2013 8:10:08 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Slaving away so obama supporting deadbeats can play)
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To: snarkytart
New piece of information, for me at least. The substitute juror just interviewed said, Rachel Jenteal described the call with Martin placed him just outside his dad's place. That meant TRayvon would have had to circled back to confront Zimmerman (unless this voodoo goddess was trying to craft a story, and her mind wasn't fast enough to realize she'd sprung a trap on herself). Game, set match, baby. Best line in media: Greg Gutfeld:" The media juice in that lemon has been twisted enough." Or words to the effect.

Tomorrow we find IRS abuse goes right to White House. So get ready.

16 posted on 07/17/2013 8:10:15 PM PDT by CT (Obama is the product of a shiftless press, LoFoVo, and the conquest of Soviet style public education)
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To: 101stAirborneVet

The US has two troubling ethnic groups that must be dealt with in the 21st Century. Blacks and Muslims. Blacks can easily be offended and will resort to violence and thuggery. Muslims when offended can resort to violence. Both practice bigotry and intolerance. Whites had to undergo PC education to mellow out their racially violent and bigoted past. Today whites rarely get offended and violent. Maybe the same type of mandatory education need to be implemented on blacks and Muslims.


17 posted on 07/17/2013 8:10:19 PM PDT by Fee
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To: 2CAVTrooper
I don’t think telling them off will get the point across.

Fair point, and so true.

18 posted on 07/17/2013 8:11:42 PM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
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To: 101stAirborneVet

How does one confuse a liberal? Tell them James Monroe had the right idea. Then wait for them to ask, “who is Jimmie Monroe?”


19 posted on 07/17/2013 8:12:36 PM PDT by CT (Obama is the product of a shiftless press, LoFoVo, and the conquest of Soviet style public education)
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To: grundle

JUSTICE FOR CHRISTOPHER!


20 posted on 07/17/2013 8:17:28 PM PDT by bolobaby
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To: bolobaby

Monroe supported the founding of colonies in Africa for free African Americans that would eventually form the nation of Liberia, whose capital, Monrovia, is named in his honor.


21 posted on 07/17/2013 8:20:38 PM PDT by CT (Obama is the product of a shiftless press, LoFoVo, and the conquest of Soviet style public education)
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To: CT
Tomorrow we find IRS abuse goes right to White House. So get ready.

No, really? I'm sure you've shocked us all here with that bombshell. And what shall we get ready for, exactly? Oh no... not... not... HEARINGS!

/sarc

22 posted on 07/17/2013 8:29:27 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: grundle

Christian and Newsome. The Commie media would not speak of it.


23 posted on 07/17/2013 11:47:19 PM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: DeFault User

Liberals use talking points of nonsense and lying to win an imaginary battle


24 posted on 07/17/2013 11:48:34 PM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: wac3rd

Now that was a horrific crime...


25 posted on 07/18/2013 3:46:36 AM PDT by Molon Labbie (Prep. Now. Live Healthy, take your Shooting Iron daily.)
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To: grundle

A meaningless question.

If Martin had been white and Zimmerman black, it never would have made the news, and no one would have ever heard about it.

A killing that isn’t useful for the media to paint America as racist isn’t bothered with.


26 posted on 07/18/2013 5:25:27 AM PDT by Cymbaline ("Allahu Akbar": Arabic for "Nothing To See Here" - Mark Steyn)
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