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Woman shoots, kills abusive husband 11 minutes after hes released from jail
Guns.com ^ | 7/16/13

Posted on 07/17/2013 9:49:50 PM PDT by Impala64ssa

Last Saturday ended in tragedy for one Athens, Tennessee, family when a woman shot her husband in self-defense. However today the nightmare continues for her, as the man’s family questions whether the shooting was justified.

Earlier in the day last Saturday, the Athens Police Department was contacted about Robert Vann Marshall, 34, who was allegedly irate, suicidal and homicidal. He was armed and threatening to kill his wife and children according to the person who made the report.

When police responded to the call, they found Marshall at a local hotel. He had a handgun and several bottles of prescription narcotics. He was arrested on firearms and drug charges, but as he was being booked into jail officers discovered that Marshall’s wife had filed an order of protection against him, but it had not yet been served.

Marshall was held for several hours and during that time officers obtained the restraining order and gave a copy to him. They explained to him what the order meant, that he was not to contact his wife or go near her or the residence they previously shared, and that if he did he would go back to jail. Marshall was asked if he understood, to which he replied that he did.

Marshall posted bond and was released from jail at 1:27 p.m.

Eleven minutes later, at 1:38 p.m., a 911 call was received from Marshall’s wife because he was attempting to get in the home where she was located with their children. She stayed on the phone with the 911 dispatcher and barricaded herself and the children in the back bedroom of the home.

Before officers could get to the home, however, Marshall had kicked in the front door and made his way to the back bedroom. While still on the phone with the dispatcher, the woman shot and killed Marshall.

When officers arrived at the home, they found Marshall on the floor of the back bedroom, deceased from a single gunshot wound to the chest. Detectives processed the scene and no charges were filed against the woman, as it appeared she shot Marshall in self-defense.

However, Marshall’s family questions the woman’s actions, claiming that the shooting was not justified. Joshua Daniels, Marshall’s brother, told reporters, “I feel that it should be investigated. Robbie isn’t the kind of man that would go over there and attack someone like that, especially not his kids. That’s what bothers me the most.”

The woman shot her husband after he kicked the door in, but his family questions whether the shooting was actually self-defense. Reporters attempted to contact Marshall’s wife, but it was communicated that she was too emotional to go on camera. She did tell them that she had filed the restraining order against him because he had been hitting her and accusing her of cheating on him.

Despite any doubts, upon the initial investigation, authorities determined that it was a straightforward case of self-defense.

“It’s a case where domestic violence unfortunately resulted in a loss of life,” McMinn County Sheriff Joe Guy said. “It’s just a piece of paper. It’s just a court order, and not everyone will abide by it, and many times they don’t. But it’s rare, at least in our county, that we see a violent end like this to a situation like that,” he said.

Guy explained that a protective order doesn’t convict someone for domestic abuse. And added that it simply separates the two parties until they can go before a judge. Guy also recommended that any time a situation becomes abusive that the victim starts the process the very first time the abuse happens.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; banglist; selfdefense; spousalabuse; standyourground
Yeah, we really need to ask ourselves what kind of a people we are to allow victims to defend themselves against perpetrators who ignore restraining orders. I guess Stevie Wonder ain't playing in Tennessee anymore either.
1 posted on 07/17/2013 9:49:51 PM PDT by Impala64ssa
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To: Impala64ssa

Restraining orders are a joke...usually filed by people who are to weak and cowardly to stand up to bullies and defend themselves. Or in my case, to try and shut me up and intimidate me to not expose a screwed up minister.


2 posted on 07/17/2013 9:54:45 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: Impala64ssa

It’s not Florida, so Angela Corey won’t come after her.


3 posted on 07/17/2013 9:57:28 PM PDT by paltz
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To: fabian

They also buttress the facts when self-defense becomes necessary in such a case.


4 posted on 07/17/2013 9:57:52 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Liberalism. Ideas so great they have to be mandatory.-FReeper Osage Orange)
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To: Politicalmom

Doesn’t matter..they are an abuse of the court system often and mean zero to a very angry person. There was just a case locally where the man went and murdered his ex in spite of a restraining order. All they tend to do is inflame anger even more. Stupid. A noble person has no need for a restraining order at all. And the restraining order also often takes away the person’s 2nd amendment rights right away , even before any hearing before a judge. Very very unconstitutional, especially when people can and do often lie about others.


5 posted on 07/17/2013 10:02:47 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: Impala64ssa

I think we have a winner!


6 posted on 07/17/2013 10:07:01 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: paltz

I am from Jacksonville, Florida, let me say: Angela Corey does not represent the real and honest people of Florida.....she needs to be disbarred.


7 posted on 07/17/2013 10:07:44 PM PDT by yield 2 the right
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To: yield 2 the right

Back to the case at hand, looks like a case of self defense to me...hope the story does not change later on....never know with DV cases....


8 posted on 07/17/2013 10:12:20 PM PDT by yield 2 the right
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To: fabian

“Noble?”

Oh, good grief. Frightened women are seldom concerned with being noble.


9 posted on 07/17/2013 10:12:41 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Liberalism. Ideas so great they have to be mandatory.-FReeper Osage Orange)
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To: Impala64ssa; NFHale

Did she make every attempt to flee, or blow a ‘help’ whistle??

‘Gun safety’ laws could have prevented this, and repealing ‘stand your ground’ too.


10 posted on 07/17/2013 10:18:59 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: Impala64ssa

Scared folks with guns shoot quicker
*....it happens i hear


11 posted on 07/17/2013 10:22:21 PM PDT by wardaddy (the next Dark Ages are coming as Western Civilization crumbles with nary a whimper)
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To: Politicalmom

Frightened women? Come on now...we need to take responsibility for our own safety and any women that dos not carry a small pistol is asking for trouble in a world full of evil! Come on now!


12 posted on 07/17/2013 10:24:21 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: Politicalmom

We have been trained and schooled to be good little workers and victims and I am tired of it. Fhu.com has the path to becoming brave..in case you are interested.


13 posted on 07/17/2013 10:25:28 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: Impala64ssa

Eric Holder would have had her lay down and take it.

Pray for America to Wake Up


14 posted on 07/17/2013 10:25:35 PM PDT by bray (Coming soon: The Republic of Texas 2022)
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To: Impala64ssa

Robert Vann Marshall

15 posted on 07/17/2013 10:30:33 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Impala64ssa

Maybe if his family had stopped making excuses for him it wouldn’t have gotten this far...It was probably not his first rodeo.

While Marshall was detained, police discovered that there was a standing restraining order against him, which had been filed by his wife, WBIR reports. Marshall was subsequently arrested on firearms and drug charges and taken to the McMinn County Justice Center.


16 posted on 07/17/2013 10:33:23 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Impala64ssa
they found Marshall on the floor of the back bedroom, deceased from a single gunshot wound to the chest. "

Gun control you can believe in.

17 posted on 07/17/2013 10:37:11 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: fabian

this is true , but, in this case , while the RO didn’t restrain squat, it did provide a solid backdrop for an obvious self defense homocide.

Hear in TN., had the order not been on file , she might have had to waste 30 minutes of valuable time, explaining her actions.

While I am terribly sorry the man was shot and killed, I am gratified that the woman had the means and will to protect herself and her children.

Generally, men that are being railroaded by an RO , usually don’t violate them because they know they are not guilty. The reason they are not guilty is because they generally do not break the law and are too smart to start on account of an RO.


18 posted on 07/17/2013 10:47:55 PM PDT by ping jockey (Justice is blind)
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To: ping jockey

Yes, but the way restraining orders are set up is awfully illegal. I had a crazy minister ( Jesse Lee Peterson), file two on me for some simple emails of normal disagreements. Never once a threat or anything close to that. So before I had the hearing with the judge...guess what? I was ordered to either sell or turn in all of my firearms, rendering me unable to defend my life in the interim if needed. Now that is what we have come to in America? Wow...btw, the judge saw that I had indeed never threatened nor was I angry at the “good reverend”. He had proved nothing in court...but the judge still slapped a 6 months no contact order...even though he completely agreed that no stalking or threats had occurred. Evil.


19 posted on 07/17/2013 10:55:32 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: Impala64ssa

Also here http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3043461/posts


20 posted on 07/17/2013 11:26:43 PM PDT by expat1000
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To: kcvl

That was Robert Marshall.


21 posted on 07/18/2013 2:38:20 AM PDT by healy61
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To: fabian
Frightened women? Come on now...we need to take responsibility for our own safety and any women that dos not carry a small pistol is asking for trouble in a world full of evil! Come on now!

So you're saying that women HAVE to carry, it is our responsibility..our duty to always have to be on the look-out for bad guys, even when the bad guy is our husband?!

Get real! I bet you think that women who wear short skirts deserve to be raped, right?

PPOs (in my state, anyway) require a hearing. And no, the person the PPO is against is not present at the hearing...cos..that person might hurt the petitioner AGAIN!

I think I get what you're saying. A man smacks a woman around, so she is supposed to whip out her gun and kill him. Hmmmm.... yeah, that's not gonna work. I think you're bitter because it sounds like you've been on the receiving end of a PPO. Is your name Earl, by any chance?

As to the case at hand, justified killing. Totally.

22 posted on 07/18/2013 3:26:09 AM PDT by blu
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To: blu

speaking from recent experience, I had a co-worker/friend (Stephanie) of mine get shot in May from her husband 35 times before he turned the gun on himself. The protection order did nothing. If he didn’t ambush her picking up her stuff at her mother-in-laws house, he’d have shot her at work at Shadyside hospital.


23 posted on 07/18/2013 5:02:10 AM PDT by Jath
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To: sickoflibs; Impala64ssa

“...Did she make every attempt to flee, or blow a ‘help’ whistle??...”

Or make herself throw up and/or “soil” herself? Those are also “recommended techniques” by the brilliant intellects on the Left.


24 posted on 07/18/2013 5:16:17 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: ping jockey
homocide

homicide

Any evidence that the perp was a homo?

25 posted on 07/18/2013 5:57:57 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Electorate data confirms Resolute Conservative voted for Soetoro)
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To: NFHale; Impala64ssa; Impy
RE :”“...Did she make every attempt to flee, or blow a ‘help’ whistle??...”
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Or make herself throw up and/or “soil” herself? Those are also “recommended techniques” by the brilliant intellects on the Left.”

Here's a grand irony of this Zimmerman/Trayvon case:

Dems are claiming that this case shows we need more gun laws and to repeal Stand your Ground laws.

But the logic behind gun control laws is that we shouldnt defend ourselves (unless you are a politician with armed guards or police protection) and instead flee or submit and then trust the justice system to iron it out.

But the Trayvon mob are arguing that this case shows that we CANT trust the criminal courts for justice. , that juries will let the bad guys off

26 posted on 07/18/2013 6:39:24 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs; Impala64ssa; Impy

“...Dems are claiming that this case shows we need more gun laws and to repeal Stand your Ground laws....”

If it wasn’t this case, it would be the next one, or the one after, etc.

Good luck with it. Once you teach someone how to use a firearm properly and protect themselves, and once you give them the enlightenment that comes with that knowledge - that they and they alone are responsible for their own immediate safety - that genie is out of the bottle. You’ll NEVER get the gun out of the hand of someone who understands that basic concept - Nobody is going to protect me but ME.

That’s why I teach as many people as possible. It’s very satisfying to watch the light bulb come on in students as fear and indoctrination gets replaced with knowledge, self-empowerment, and education.

And it’s also satisfying to note that every one we train is one less that the other side has.

I call it...”Giving Something Back”...or “Making A Difference”...

“I once told you Von Ryan...if even ONE makes it out, it’s a Victory...”


27 posted on 07/18/2013 6:49:49 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale
RE “I once told you Von Ryan...if even ONE makes it out, it’s a Victory...”

He was Paul Ryan's dad.

PA has some strict gun laws already.

28 posted on 07/18/2013 6:54:14 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: blu

wow..what lame reply from a conservative? Oh my...If men and woman were more calm and took more time in choosing each other for mates, this type of extreme thing could be avoided to begin with! Hence...fhu.com.
And yes, ALL women should be prepared to not be a victim, regardless whom they must defend themselves against! Men too! Why is that not obvious to you? Do you think the thousands of rapes would occur if people knew most were armed? No! Stop misconstruing what I wrote please. Thank you.


29 posted on 07/18/2013 7:23:18 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: sickoflibs

“...PA has some strict gun laws...”

In PA, the laws in place are sufficient to prevent someone with a criminal background from getting a gun through the NICS and PICS system.

If you have a clear background, you will get your CCW license. And with that, Open Carry is also legal, although the badged Philly Blue Hero Brotherhood brigade gets mighty hairy about it. But it is NOT against the law to open carry if you have that CCW.

But anyone, anywhere, can get a gun by stealing it or buying a stolen one from someone else - in ANY state. There is never a way to prevent that, and it’s fallacy and fantasy to believe otherwise. “Powers-that-be” have been trying to prevent people from getting guns for centuries, and it hasn’t worked.

NJ is a perfect example of this. NJ has some of the MOST right-infringing gun laws in the country, making it damn near impossible for a law-abiding citizen to carry a firearm; you need an owners card to even BUY one. Yet, Camden, Newark, Trenton have serious violent crime rates due to thugs with stolen guns.

Works real well...say, let’s pass MORE laws that they can ignore. Yeah...that’ll work.

RE Ryan: One of my favorite movies ever. “Von Ryan’s Express”. Memorable scenes with the rocket-firing Messerchmitts attacking the catwalk, and that whole tunnel battle with grenades and machine pistols, while they tried to repair the damaged railroad tracks.

“Ol’ Blue Eyes” dies at the end, but he got them to Switzerland...


30 posted on 07/18/2013 7:25:18 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: blu

Most communities have “womens advocates” situated in the courthouse that help women complete the required forms... using the correct legal buzzwords in their descriptions to achieve the desired legal results. The police initially counsel the “victims” as to the prefered process and distribute appropriate materials for the victims to follow.


31 posted on 07/18/2013 7:39:41 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: Impala64ssa

“Consider it a divorce.”


32 posted on 07/18/2013 7:41:23 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: All

He should have worn a hoodie then he would be an innocent victim of hatred and Eric Holder would go after his killer.


33 posted on 07/18/2013 7:52:13 AM PDT by FarmerW ( - Milton Friedman - The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem.)
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To: Mashood
Most communities have “womens advocates” situated in the courthouse that help women complete the required forms... using the correct legal buzzwords in their descriptions to achieve the desired legal results. The police initially counsel the “victims” as to the prefered process and distribute appropriate materials for the victims to follow.

In our state, they are called "victim's advocates" and they are a part of the prosecuting attorney's office. They help the victim (male or female) get through the whole "court" thing. They assist with restitution, they explain how to get a No Contact (different from a PPO- a No Contact order is usually part of the terms of the bail/bond, and it's an automatic for violent or economic crimes) lifted (it takes quite a bit of work on the aggressor's part, again, male or female) to get a no contact order lifted.

As a rule, victim's advocates do not help fill out PPOs. No one in the courthouse (except the prosecutor and her assistant prosecutor)is allowed to give out legal advice...and telling someone what buzzwords to use to be sure and get the PPO granted is giving legal advice.

The ones who actually do give out legal advice (but no one seems to mind) are the women's shelters. They advocate big time for their women.

In some cases, I agree, going the PPO way is overkill, and in some instances does put gas to the fire in an already flammable situation.

As for the guy who ticked me off this am-I can see why he's upset. Ridiculous! but for me, working where I do, most PPOs are a great thing...I hate murder trials! And, even tho I do conceal carry, every day, I don't think "she didn't have a gun, so she had it coming" is a viable defense.

34 posted on 07/18/2013 3:08:37 PM PDT by blu
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To: A.A. Cunningham

all my spelling and vocabulary suffers after midnight.


35 posted on 07/18/2013 4:33:31 PM PDT by ping jockey (Justice is blind)
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To: blu

In our community, when its time for males to file counter PPOs, the womens advocates tend to be on vacation or too busy doing other things. As long as the “advocate” claims to the “victim” that they are not a licenced attorney and they are speaking “from their experiences”, the germain information is usually imparted. After all, we’re talking “family court’ here.


36 posted on 07/19/2013 8:31:36 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: fabian
Over the years I have had a few employees that were served with TPO’s or whatever they are called locally. The almost universal response is pissed off rage. Most were just normal guys with lousy women picks.
37 posted on 07/19/2013 8:38:31 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Impala64ssa
I wonder if this is the woman who was with 911, telling them her husband was breaking in, then after she shot him and the operator repeated police were on their way, said-

"Take your time. He's not trying to break in anymore."

38 posted on 07/19/2013 8:58:54 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as defined by the Law of Nature, not a 'person' as defined by the laws of Man)
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To: Impala64ssa
I guess Stevie Wonder ain't playing in Tennessee anymore either.

Stevie Wonder's threat to boycott FL is one of the most ridiculous things I've heard from that retard. Wanna know how many concerts he's doing in the US? One, in NY. It's like giving up eating earthworms for Lent.

39 posted on 07/19/2013 9:08:48 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Justice for Trayvon: Dig up his body and shoot him again.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
It's like giving up eating earthworms for Lent.

Hey now, I did that once, and let me tell you, it wasn't easy.

40 posted on 07/19/2013 9:10:02 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: paltz

Corey is another nifong.

unfortunatly nifongs are the rule not the exeception in prosectutions.


41 posted on 07/19/2013 9:11:11 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Yes...very stupid instigator is all it is. In my case, it was illegally used to try and muzzle me from exposing a corrupt minister....Jesse lee Peterson


42 posted on 07/19/2013 9:36:17 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: Cyber Liberty
Stevie Wonder's threat to boycott FL is one of the most ridiculous things I've heard heard from that retard
I heard the audio on Todd Schnitt's show of Wonder making his "threat" while perfoming in Quebec(Montreal?). More bizarre were the people cheering, the same phonies who'll be snowbirding it down here in droves come Christmas, spending tons of $$$ seeing the sights and feeding the rat. Brandon, just east of Tampa is nicknamed Little Canada.
43 posted on 07/19/2013 10:44:09 AM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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