Posted on 07/18/2013 12:21:42 AM PDT by cunning_fish
Edited on 07/21/2013 4:11:57 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
KIROV, Russia (Reuters) - Russian protest leader Alexei Navalny was convicted of stealing from a state timber company on Thursday, a verdict that could prevent him challenging Vladimir Putin for the presidency.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...
The guy was most likely only guilty of opposing Putin.
Using the power of the government against political opponents, I’m so glad we have President who would never do that.
Russian protest leader Alexei Navalny was convicted of stealing from a state timber company on Thursday, a verdict that could prevent him challenging Vladimir Putin for the presidency.
Should Russia reimpose Rule of Marxist Law for those wonderful benefits, or is Absence of the Rule of Law a better deal?
Further I would point out, had past Republican administrations vigorously prosecuted DemoRat Leftist lawbreakers, the biggest part of the Obama aministration would have felony convictions and be in prison rather than the White House.
If the Western MSM like Navalny as they like Obama, I suspect that Navalny will be good for Russia like Obama is good for America.
What say you, fish?
I’ve no idea. Navalny is a populist democrat who made himself exposing government waste, incompetence and corruption (sometimes even proved his allegations)which is actually a cheap way to get popular in Russia there all of the above are pretty much common.
On the other hand, he is not known for any own achievments, other that pointing his finger at someone else faults.
Earlier “Citizen Kane” character comes to mind.
I won’t be surprised if he has really commited his crimes, but the timing of trial is suspicious.
Why couldn’t they prosecute him earlier?
I don’t agree with this article regarding Navalny’s popularity.
He is pretty much unknown outside predominately liberal large cities, his estimated poll is 5% at max.
He is pretty much unknown outside predominately liberal large cities, his estimated poll is 5% at max.
Not surprised.
Americans big disadvantage is not having access to real Russians and Eastern Europeans to candidly tell us what they are thinking and what is really going on. The Western MSM is worthless propaganda, and Pravda and RT are much better but still evolving from the propaganda days.
I read the comments that MAY be from Russian/EE posters, and many really don't like the US and Americans at all and trust even less, appearing to believe that Americans and the US government are one and the same.
But, bottom line, I don't know what is legit and what is not. I sense that big city liberals are the same unending supply of Useful Idiots skipping their way back to Communism.
>>>I sense that big city liberals are the same unending supply of Useful Idiots skipping their way back to Communism.<<<
Probably right and wrong at the same time. Russian liberals has some good points but they don’t have any popular plan to offer. Raw criticism and nice slogans won’t ever work for good.
Also they were in charge since 1991 to 1999 and people remember it as an absolutely awful period. That actually limits their audience to a few moonbats and Western media.
They can exploit a public disappointment in some excesses Putin’s regime (but mostly it’s being not leftist enough), to use some crisis to reach further but the reality is it will be communists who’ll ride on their backs to have fruits.
The main advantage of Putin’s regime is that a year before his presidency one had to work a week to buy a six pack of good bear. Today most of them can drive a Benz if they are working hard instead of whining.
I think if Russians are ever to have a real Republic it is about to grow out of current right-wing regime, which is not really that much of a dictatorship.
Pretty much like it was in ROK, Singapore or Taiwan.
Pretty much like it was in ROK, Singapore or Taiwan.
See, this is the sort of information I (and Americans) need to pry outta you and any Russian/East European that will talk to us. This is why I told you that your EE observation was so good.
... the reality is it will be communists who’ll ride on their backs to have fruits.
And there is the danger I fear that Western Media crap will enable another Bolshevik theft. Putin is the better choice.
Better to be found only “guilty” and not dead.
LOL, probably crosses the mind of the media when Putin reviews their work.
The biggest thief and embezzler in Russia is KGB Putin himself who has become filthy rich stabbing his fellow Russians in the back, stealing their freedom and robbing them blind.
>>>Russians in the back, stealing their freedom and robbing them blind.<<<
What exactly was stolen?
A friend of mine has the same job for 15 years there. She was making some $250 (and thought she was rich!) in 2001. Today she has some $28,000 a year and plans for more.
As for freedoms did he steal that they had under communists or Yeltsin the Drunk’s regime?
Yeltsin was probably a devoted libertarian and for that exact reason ordered a tank strike on parliament in process of impeaching him. Gunned down about a thousand people protesting this act (and NBC crews reporting it). Do you know Yeltsin had a “banditism act”? Every low-ranking LEO could put everyone in jail for 30 days if he had “strong conviction” that one belongs to an organized crime. Written confession given without defence attorney during such a detention were accepted by courts as a sole evidence and were enough to sentence one. Do you want to know how these confessions were taken? Is was a huge step back even in terms of post-Stalinist Soviet judicial system. Not to mention a lot of people simply died in jail before they could face trial. Funny thing is all these powers of government were rarely used to solve crimes and punish criminals. Along with the rest of disfunctional government LEOs were mostly tools of rival gangs and oligarchs against each other.
That is an exact reason why liberals has a single-digit polls there, way below communists who aren’t very popular themselves.
>>>And there is the danger I fear that Western Media crap will enable another Bolshevik theft. Putin is the better choice.<<<
Sure, media has no clue. They are picking a first big mouth willing to speak with them and then reproduce it backing own agenda.
The reality Putin is a huge improvement to any regime his nation had earlier.
Why haven’t MSM complained in 1996 when his predecessor “won” reelection with single digit approval rating just a month before? I guess the reason he was a Clinton’s pal.
Thanks, fish.
You are welcome, Patriot. Please read #13 too.
Russian “liberal” crackdown on protesters and impeaching lawmakers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fyTMc9lqCo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO72S5mI6II
Putin’s dictatorial “crackdown” on protesters:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7Om2tXDtVk&list=PL8C5A1ADFD3AF076A
Quite a difference. Isn’t it?
Who is a dictator after that?
Obviously since Yeltsin's dictatorial provocation of the 1993 Constitutional crisis. In 2012, look at the improved standard of living and quality of life in the demonstrators that they record with their own equipment, and the restraint of the police.
Here is a link to Wiki's Russian economy page: Here
A little down on the right is a historical GDP graph, Yeltsin killed Russian GDP while Putin and Medvedev grew it quite well.
Communism tends NOT to do that, take it for what it's worth.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.