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Dems pin immigration hopes on GOP's Ryan
www.boston.com ^ | July 17, 2013 | DONNA CASSATA

Posted on 07/18/2013 5:07:56 AM PDT by kimtom

WASHINGTON (AP) — Democrats doggedly pursuing a far-reaching immigration bill are counting on help from Republican Rep. Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney’s running mate last year and an unlikely candidate for delivering the centerpiece of President Barack Obama’s second-term agenda.

Ryan, the House Budget Committee chairman who is frequently mentioned in the GOP lineup of possible 2016 presidential candidates, stands apart from many fellow House Republicans in favoring a way out of the shadows for the 11 million immigrants living in the U.S. in violation of the law.

He casts sweeping overhaul as a necessity to ensure both economic and national security — a fitting argument for an acolyte of Jack Kemp, the late Republican congressman and 1996 vice presidential candidate who backed an ill-fated effort in 2006 to overhaul the immigration system.

‘‘Paul Ryan says we cannot have a permanent underclass of Americans, that there needs to be a pathway to citizenship,’’ says Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill., who has been working relentlessly on immigration legislation. ‘‘He is my guiding light. I know I get him in trouble every time I say it.’’

Senior White House aides often mention the Wisconsin Republican as crucial to the prospects for legislation this year, hoping the Republican with impeccable conservative credentials will sway recalcitrant House members. Ryan also is a reminder of two other powerful forces backing an overhaul of immigration laws ..........

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; criminalaliens; immigration; jobs; ryan; sourcetitlenoturl
".....The companies are counting on immigrants to fill future factory jobs...."

I have a problem with this....

1 posted on 07/18/2013 5:07:56 AM PDT by kimtom
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To: kimtom

What do they have on Ryan?


2 posted on 07/18/2013 5:08:46 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: txrefugee

I USED to have a lot of hopes for Ryan, but not any more.


3 posted on 07/18/2013 5:11:04 AM PDT by CMailBag
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To: kimtom

What factory jobs. They’re wanted for votes.


4 posted on 07/18/2013 5:13:01 AM PDT by KingLudd
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To: txrefugee

“What do they have on Ryan?”

Don’t know what they’ve got on him. Perhaps, metaphorically speaking, a strange sex act with a chicken? Regardless, if he bends over for the Dem’s he should forget about ever becoming POTUS and concentrate on being the best congressman Wisconsin has ever had.....


5 posted on 07/18/2013 5:14:47 AM PDT by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: txrefugee
What do they have on Ryan?..."

If they don't they can fabricate it!

;)


6 posted on 07/18/2013 5:16:20 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: kimtom

Out of the Shadows. LOL

Illegals have virtually nothing to worry about in the vast majority of areas where they are located.

And what factory jobs would they be that need filling?


7 posted on 07/18/2013 5:17:21 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: KingLudd

“...What factory jobs. They’re wanted for votes...”

That is why many Repbubbies want them, pressure from industry.
To compete they need cheap labor.
I have seen it!!! I have lived it!!
Never doubt American company to screw it’s people to make a buck.
(unlike most Asian-European co.)


8 posted on 07/18/2013 5:19:29 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: kimtom

>> that there needs to be a pathway to citizenship,’’ <<

There is ALREADY a pathway to citizenship:

1) Return to your native country
2) Apply for residency in the USA
3) After being granted residency, move to the US and live here 2 years
4) Apply for Citizenship
5) Pass the Citizenship Test

There! All done! No new legislation needed.


9 posted on 07/18/2013 5:34:54 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (To attempt to have intercourse with a hornet's nest is a very bad idea)
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To: kimtom

So do I. Ryan can kiss any hope of any future national campaigning for any national office. I’ll stay home if he does. The GOPe has to die.


10 posted on 07/18/2013 5:40:04 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: kimtom; stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Tennessee Nana; Liz; TADSLOS; EXCH54FE; ...
RE :”WASHINGTON (AP) — Democrats doggedly pursuing a far-reaching immigration bill are counting on help from Republican Rep. Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney’s running mate last year and an unlikely candidate for delivering the centerpiece of President Barack Obama’s second-term agenda.
........He casts sweeping overhaul as a necessity to ensure both economic and national security — a fitting argument for an acolyte of Jack Kemp, the late Republican congressman and 1996 vice presidential candidate who backed an ill-fated effort in 2006 to overhaul the immigration system.
.......
‘‘Paul Ryan says we cannot have a permanent underclass of Americans, that there needs to be a pathway to citizenship,’’ says Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill., who has been working relentlessly on immigration legislation. ‘‘He is my guiding light. I know I get him in trouble every time I say it.’’
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Senior White House aides often mention the Wisconsin Republican as crucial to the prospects for legislation this year, hoping the Republican with impeccable conservative credentials will sway recalcitrant House members. Ryan also is a reminder of two other powerful forces backing an overhaul of immigration laws

AHAH, the House version of Rubio, I love the reference to Jack Kemp, another GOP compassionate talkingloser.

Dont forget those 10 year budget resolutions Ryan dreamed up that had sooo many swoooning for him around here, and mad at me when I called them phony.

OK, politics 101:
Ryan never really planned on getting a balanced budget into law(he never even wrote a balanced budget bill), or replacing the military sequester cuts as he claimed he was for, those were just symbolism for the gullible in GOP.

However in the case of amnesty he is serious about getting a bill to Obama’s desk.

Understand the difference.

11 posted on 07/18/2013 5:46:17 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: kimtom

Yeah, they were such good friends to him during the election.

Pray for America to Wake Up


12 posted on 07/18/2013 5:54:23 AM PDT by bray (Coming soon: The Republic of Texas 2022)
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To: kimtom

And yet by pushing a law that is so adverse to the interests of tax paying Americans and to all American citizens, Ryan is discrediting himself every bit as much as Rubio. Pathetic.


13 posted on 07/18/2013 5:58:18 AM PDT by Piranha (We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst.)
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To: kimtom

The biggest problem Conservatives have is the large collection of jackasses they have been forced to accept as political leaders in the GOP.

And in that collection of Jackasses, this jackass is one of the biggest.

Damn fool couldn’t even deliver his own state in a Presidential election and now he’s trying to act as a policy maker.

Damn fool should shut up and sneak back into his house like he sneked out of it before that other damn jackass Romney picked him.


14 posted on 07/18/2013 6:14:59 AM PDT by ZULU ((See: http://gatesofvienna.net/) Obama, do you hear me?)
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To: kimtom

Do any of you still doubt that this little operation is REALLY about kneecapping any viable future GOP POTUS nominees??


15 posted on 07/18/2013 6:20:43 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: txrefugee
Paul Ryan, like Marco Rubio, had such a bright future.

Paul Ryan, like Marco Rubio, is now dead to me.

16 posted on 07/18/2013 6:21:32 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: kimtom

That smirking ahole should take that American flag off his lapel and replace it with the Mexican flag.


17 posted on 07/18/2013 6:25:19 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be a chain of convenience stores.)
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To: kimtom

Is it just me or what, but I’m beginning to hate the sight of Ryan.


18 posted on 07/18/2013 6:28:21 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Yeah, we just get all future GOP candidates to knee cap themselves.........

Great strategy.

19 posted on 07/18/2013 6:28:33 AM PDT by Lakeshark (KILL THE BILL! CALL. FAX. WRITE.)
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To: Gaffer

I’ll stay home if he does. The GOPe has to die....”

hate the sound of that....

but...(!)


20 posted on 07/18/2013 6:32:23 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: Gaffer
The GOPe has to die

Spot on. Not just neutralized (not with all the money and resources at their call), but killed off like a cancer in the GOP political body.

21 posted on 07/18/2013 6:33:53 AM PDT by glennaro
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To: sickoflibs

Ryan, like Rubio, is doing this for his corporate paymasters who will fund his 2016 bid for the WH. These bastards will sell their soul and their country for their own political ambitions.


22 posted on 07/18/2013 6:49:37 AM PDT by kabar
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To: txrefugee

Rubio has flushed his career down the toilet now it looks like Ryan wants to do the same thing. Maybe its a virus.


23 posted on 07/18/2013 7:27:19 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: kimtom
Side with the socialist rats; win big prizes.
24 posted on 07/18/2013 7:31:05 AM PDT by JPG (Obama Does Egypt.)
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To: kimtom

Staying with the Republican party is a losing option for conservative Americans.


25 posted on 07/18/2013 7:36:21 AM PDT by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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To: kimtom

Is there anybody on capital hill that won’t sell their soul for this cr4p?


26 posted on 07/18/2013 8:05:37 AM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: kimtom

Can’t get through to Ryan’s offices (all of them) and his voice mail boxes are full. I think this is not going over so well LOL.


27 posted on 07/18/2013 8:33:24 AM PDT by apoxonu
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To: sickoflibs

‘‘Paul Ryan says we cannot have a permanent underclass of Americans,”

Yeah, like the middle class.

These corporatists are destroying the middle class. Now they want to flood the country with 3rd worlders to depress wages further.


28 posted on 07/18/2013 8:39:08 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: kimtom

American Citizenship is Rapidly Becoming Devalued to Zero

Washington, DC—Our forefathers sacrificed so much so we would have freedom, prosperity and the tools to prevent government from again becoming despotic. As a nation our citizenship has been the envy of the entire rest of the world. We have allowed freedom to slip away and the value of our citizenship has rapidly declined.

We built a system where free enterprise created wealth and jobs. That in turn gave Americans the ability to consume the fruit of their labor. Productivity and excellence was rewarded and accordingly America became the wealthiest and strongest nation on earth. Today productivity is punished with extortionate taxation at every level of government.
Nearly 100 years passed and Socialists and Communists floated new ideas about government. These ideas failed in nation after nation but for a few party leaders that could live like royalty through corruption while their citizens were starved, confined and enslaved. These governments are well known for killing dissidents or anyone wishing to escape from their own homelands.

That did not stop the spread of Socialism and Communism to the USA and our government including the Whitehouse. Both major political parties are awash with politicians on a united mission, to force the failed Socialist ideas on Americans. These disloyal politicians all believe the Constitution they were sworn to protect is outdated and irrelevant.

Socialism can only flourish when the vast majority of citizens are totally dependent upon government. We are at a point where over 50% of the population is impoverished and programed into utter and complete dependence.

Our Socialists are doing everything they can to increase the population with the ignorant and poor from Mexico and Central America. The price of admission is simply to break our immigration laws. Millions more illiterate and unskilled trespassers are being handed citizenship and the right to vote by our Socialist politicians. That will guarantee a Socialist government in the USA for the next 100 years.

In the mean time our government is moving in efforts to prevent the flight of Americans wanting to emigrate with their assets elsewhere in the world. The revocation of passports for tax indebtedness has already begun. At what point does our border patrol begin to use deadly force to keep Americans from leaving? Don’t say that it can’t or won’t happen because history is redundant with examples proving this point.

Read at:

http://www.crimefilenews.com/


29 posted on 07/18/2013 9:25:16 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: kimtom
I gave up on this clown the minute he agreed to support letting homosexuals adopt children-there is so much that is so sick and so wrong about that that it's unbelievable.

It appears that getting in bed with gay legislation is the newest "fad" among the Washington DC rich, famous and glamorous people:
So what if a few thousand innoncent children have their lives ruined by these sexual perverts and their allies.

30 posted on 07/18/2013 9:32:43 AM PDT by Larry381 ("Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.")
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To: KeyLargo

American Citizenship ......”

excellent post!!


31 posted on 07/18/2013 10:06:48 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: sickoflibs; kimtom; stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Tennessee Nana; Liz; TADSLOS; ..

” However in the case of amnesty he is serious about getting a bill to Obama’s desk.”

Yeah....Ryan is SERIOUS about collecting the many millions he and Rubio were promised for selling our sovereignty to the devil. I despise these rotten whores!!


32 posted on 07/18/2013 10:33:49 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (K I L L T H E B I L L !!)
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To: kabar; All

” Ryan, like Rubio, is doing this for his corporate paymasters who will fund his 2016 bid for the WH. These bastards will sell their soul and their country for their own political ambitions.”

They did.


33 posted on 07/18/2013 10:35:20 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (K I L L T H E B I L L !!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; sickoflibs; kimtom; Tennessee Nana; Liz; TADSLOS; DoughtyOne

If the Ryan plan had passed future congresses would have undone his “deficit reduction” which was supposed to happen 10 years in the future. However, the citizenship for illegals which would occur several years in the future would never be undone. If anything, it would be accelerated. Funny how that works.


34 posted on 07/18/2013 10:43:26 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: sickoflibs

yep


35 posted on 07/18/2013 2:09:14 PM PDT by GeronL
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