Skip to comments.Is Social Security disability program ‘backdoor welfare’?
Posted on 07/18/2013 4:37:17 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen
SNIP-- But in recent years, the number of workers receiving disability checks has shot upwards at an alarming rate. Nationally, the number of disability beneficiaries rose by 39 percent between 2003 and 2011. In Pennsylvania, the rate climbed by 50 percent during the same period. More than 300,000 Pennsylvanians now collect a monthly social security disability check. The recent rise in disability payments is also counterintuitive. In a day and age when medical advances mean people are living longer and healthier lives than ever before, shouldnt there be fewer disabled workers? DeHaven says it is because Congress has expanded eligibility to the point that Social Security disability has been turned into a back-door welfare program
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They have law firms that specialize in getting people on disability. It’s an industry.
Yes. Yes. and Yes.
It’s no coincidence that the dramatic upward tick in the number of recipients corresponds with the ending of the ridiculously extended unemployment period back when Demonrats were buying votes with unemployment benefits.
Disability is a huge scam and it’s sad that those who really need and and have earned it often don’t get it as quickly as they should because the system is so bogged down with fraud.
The article mentions that..
Hearing my doctor telling me I would never be able to return to my job was one of the worst moments of my life.
Is Social Security disability program backdoor welfare?
You bet your ass it is as is SS the way it’s run.
What you get out of SS should be exactly what you paid in and what your employer(s) pay... that’s 100% return on investment by the way and that’s all you get. You run out you’re on your own.
You should be given two options: 1): One big ass check for everything tax free or 2): Pick how many years you want YOUR money sent back to you. You die before that happens it should be given to your spouse (not significant other) or a family member.
I live in Japan. Currently an independent contractor editing scientific papers and technical manuals. OK, things are not great, but I’m happily married, my wife has a good job, we get by, even add a bit to the savings now and then.
Last week I got an email from a company that claims to have an association with the VA, how they found me I have no idea, but basically they told me that because I was medically discharged from the Navy that I was pretty much guaranteed a disability payment from Social Security, and offered to help me put in a claim. The kicker was the line that said Social Security payments can be made, even for overseas residents, and that I would not have to return to the US to make a claim.
I deleted the email and emptied my trash before I could get tempted... but sometimes... especially when I think about all the other parasites out there, the utter hopelessness of changing things in my lifetime...
Why shouldn’t I get some, too?
It’s welfare that never ends - and there’s no pesky social workers.
I know because my wife worked at one for a while.
It certainly pays for a lot of lawyers to be advertizing on TV for more takers these days.
I cannot believe the number of disability folks I see at my work. One 19 yr old fella repeatedly denied he had any medical problems. When I followed up w/ the question “Why are you on Medicare?” he was stunned. Then he said he had a gunshot wound to the leg when he was 13 yrs old. He no longer had a medical problem — he even knew it & repeatedly denied any medical problems. But now he is on permanent medical disability.
Unfortunately, I think the Social Security judges who evaluate people’s claims have a list of acceptable diseases/donditions which qualify the qualify for disability. The easy way is for the judges to stamp their approval for disability — that way they get better approval ratings. Perhaps this is typical govt employee? Tired & wants to get home from work?
That’s basically what it has become.
I know of young, able bodied people still in their 30’s who are on disablity because they are just overweight. They aren’t disabled - they are just food hogs.
And others under 40 years old and on disability because they drink too much or smoke too much dope to keep a job.
It’s a disgusting turn of events and one of the reasons we hear all the whining about Social security going broke.
That’s a terrible thing. Unfortunately, there are plenty of scammers clogging up the system, making it very difficult for the deserving to obtain benefits.
Call it a scam if you want but it is an insurance program just like any other privately held policy. The problem lies in the unusual definition of 'disability' as pointed out in the article that includes non medical issues.
SSDI (disability) is not the same as SSI and are often confused.
Consider if you were involved in an automobile accident and turned in an insurance claim to your insurer, should you feel guilty??? I don't think you would,after all that is what you paid for.
i met a middle class couple who are both on disabilty. the woman said she had bad hands. they looked ok to me. we have wheel chair people in my biulding that can’t even sit up in their chairs — working. major scam
If you knew how many children labeled “special education” (learning disabled, behavior disordered,etc.) receive disability you would feint.
ALL Taxpayer handout-for-Votes Programs are simply wealth-redistribution for the benefit of Re-Election, and let the taxpayers be the deep pockets.
Banks, Businesses, Minorities, Baby-Killing support, etc. are ALL just money-laundering to get re-Elected, and when the taxpayers are gone, the Civil War will weed out the non-productive.
I wish congress understood the adverse effects that disability often has on individuals & their families. Most people, including people born with handicaps, have things they can do in society. Consider Helen Keller — deaf & blind — oh, my, what a woman!
But the worst is when the disabled person’s children are affected. “Little Sean needs a note for school.”
“Oh, well, no he isn’t sick — we overslept. And can you excuse him for the last week?”
Unfortunately, that is often the case.
WOW, this seems so familiar. Where have I heard this before ???
These so-called disabled people call it the "crazy check". There is nothing wrong with them. It can't be proved one way or the other.
ONE of the questions on the Form that asks "RACE" should be removed.
If you check "Black", "Hispanic", and also check "not working", you go to the top of the stack for Approvals.
Whites cannot claim they were denied because of their "Race", whereas, there's always Discrimination Claims for the non-whites if they're denied.
How many inner-city tribal parasites do you think are collecting EBT's, Food Stamps, Section 8 housing, WIC, Medicaid Coverage, and ALSO get SSDI funds?????
Is the sky blue?
The most shocking thing is that this article appears in the Inquirer...
I agree there are abuses, but I have a relative who is most definitely disabled by a disease no one should have. The payments are not generous.
That plus sleazy doctors plus state bureaucrats who are more than willing to dole outout “other people’s money”.
Yep I encountered one family who had three “disabled” kids. At $700 per month SSI per child that is $2100.00 per month. Over $25,000.00 per year. Cash, tax free.
Their “disability”? ADHD. All three.
Are there people who game the system? Sure. There are a lot more, though, who are for real. I'd prefer it if they had to do some kind of work to get a check, or course. That's another issue.
WOW, this seems so familiar. Where have I heard this before? ???
I don't know, but I sure hope we hear it more often.....
We have two duplexes up there... about 90% of all applicants are on disability for things like being obese, attention deficit, or various other "conditions".
The system was created by people of good will so those who couldn’t work and were disabled would be able to live with dignity.
When enough scammers abuse they system it’ll go bankrupt - when that happen the scammers will move on to the next scam and the elderly and those really disabled will die.
The lawyers bring down the corpse that the rest of the scavengers feed on.
True, and those firms that boast they will do everything including the application are ripping off their truly disabled clients. About half of all applicants (ie. those with real disabilities) are approved without any further legal action. When they are approved, the person gets back pay from the date they applied. Those firms take 30% of that money for filling out an application. OTOH I know an honest disability lawyer (yes there are some) who won't do that. He tells clients to apply and then see him only if they are turned down.
I figured out what was going on after my wife worked there a few months. We were both appalled, but you can’t turn your nose up at any job these days. Eventually the woman lawyer who owned the firm got caught up in her own hubris and got disbarred. Took my wife almost a year to find another job.
“The easy way is for the judges to stamp their approval for disability that way they get better approval ratings.”
Social Security judges are an independent agency (Office of Disability Adjudication and Review). They are not subject to performance reviews by Social Security, nor are they under any pressure to rule one way or another.
Its back door unemployment. Folks who exhausted their unemployment were almost automaticly signed up as disabled in some areas.
IIRC the stories of a couple years ago.
Those who need it ...
Boy, ain’t that the truth. I work with a 64-year-old gal whose hip is just about bone-on-bone, but a long-planned hip replacement surgery keeps getting put on hold because of heart problems. In the meantime she tries to keep working. She should get disability.
42-year-old wife of a co-worker was turned down after suffering a heart attack and needing open heart surgery.
On the other hand, another one of our neighbors has been on disability for years for “back trouble.” He seems to be living a pretty normal life.
I don’t understand who qualifies and who does not.
Some are scam artists ...some are desperate 50 year olds who’ve exhausted every avenue to try and find a job in Obama’s economy. It’s game the system or starve. Hunger and desperation will do that to anyone.
I know many people are actually disabled when they apply and those are the ones that get through the system the first try. The ones requiring lawyers to get them through are the iffy ones.
Most stupid question of the decade. Gonna be hard to top that.
That it was welfare has been obvious from the get-go. That they called it SS Disability would be prosecutable fraud in any private enterprise. It is functionally criminal fraud by Congress, but they made themselves immune from prosecution.
Pretty slick, eh?
Tens of millions of permanent voters!
Such a deal!
Finally, any suggestion that it be eliminated, or removed from Social Security, and moved to a clearly welfare-named program, is met with the mortal political scream that You can't touch Social Security!
And every senile geezer on the continent, unaware that he's being "had" again joins in the hysterical chorus.
Can you say, We've been Swived --- again?
Every time I think of how many people of a certain subculture bought a cane, visited a doctor well-known in certain circles, and have "won" a permanent disability check for life, having worked perhaps a total of two years their entire life in 40 temporary jobs just does nasty things to my blood pressure.
I often wonder how "fraud" was eliminated from the legal dictionary, from the social conscience, and from the working taxpayer obligation consciousness.
And, "At this point, what difference does it make?"
The magic pixie dust money fairy incantation.
Nothing is impossible for demagogic dreamers --- working with other people's money.
No one starves in America even if they aren’t “gaming the system”.
There are churches, food pantries and even though we don’t like it, food stamps that are more than fair “game” in the present system.
No one needs to file a questionable or fraudulent disability claim.
The system’s gonna crash one day, hard, and then you’ll see the starvation. We need a complete overhaul and bring back personal and familial responsibility.
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