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DOJ Wonít Give Back Zimmermanís Gun
PJ Tatler ^ | July 18, 2013 | Bryan Preston

Posted on 07/18/2013 5:53:34 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: tsomer

No.


51 posted on 07/18/2013 7:02:18 PM PDT by txmissy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Impeach Traitorholder!


52 posted on 07/18/2013 7:05:39 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: All

It’s apparent to anyone paying attention that the NSA spying uncovered a lot of dirt on a lot of republican politicians.


53 posted on 07/18/2013 7:07:39 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (If you vote for evil because you can't see evil, you ARE evil!)
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To: henkster
The DOJ has no authority to order the gun “held.” If they want it they need to go to Federal District Court to get a warrant, based upon sworn evidence of probable cause, to seize it. I believe the Florida authorities are under no obligation to honor a Justice Department request. If Zimmerman demands the return of his gun, and the Florida authorities refuse to comply, they have violated his 14th Amendment rights.

Actually 5th Amendment. And it's multiple felonies: 18 USC 241 and 18 USC 242.

54 posted on 07/18/2013 7:08:12 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
we are finally at the “flash-point”
55 posted on 07/18/2013 7:09:20 PM PDT by ldish (The Impeachment process should be getting interesting...but trust me it won't!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t think Zimmerman should get his gun back, but that is the state of Florida’s call.


56 posted on 07/18/2013 7:11:07 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Fight the culture of nothing.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They never gave me back mine after my husband shot himself with it.

I guess that is how FL does things.

I suppose i could demand it back, but I have a doggie whom I love.


57 posted on 07/18/2013 7:12:31 PM PDT by left that other site (You Shall Know the Truth, and the Truth Shall Set You Free...John 8:32)
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To: left that other site

It’s not really Florida, per se, who is doing this, they are taking orders from the US Attorney General.


58 posted on 07/18/2013 7:14:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind each blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh...OK...Does that make it OK then?


59 posted on 07/18/2013 7:15:21 PM PDT by left that other site (You Shall Know the Truth, and the Truth Shall Set You Free...John 8:32)
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To: Mike Darancette

Uhmmm, why shouldn’t he get his lawful property, that he is legally entitled to, back from the state? Believe me, I’m ALL EARS on this one.


60 posted on 07/18/2013 7:16:13 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind each blade of grass.)
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To: OneWingedShark

The 5th amendment applies to the Federal Government, not to the states. However, the Supreme Court has held that most Bill of Rights protections were “incorporated” into the 14th amendment due process clause & therefore apply to the states through the 14th.


61 posted on 07/18/2013 7:17:16 PM PDT by buridan
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To: left that other site

I never said that, I was only telling you why he hasn’t had his property returned to him as he should have.


62 posted on 07/18/2013 7:18:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind each blade of grass.)
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To: tsomer
no, that was my first thought too.
that being said, the feds will back out in a couple of years, and leave Florida holding the hot potato while claiming any costs are totally at Florida's expense... cause Florida did not obey their own law and return the gun as the law specifies....
so for the chance GZ sues, and the possible chance GZ sue's the feds (will take years to resolve) and Obama and holder get to play with the press and the republican critters....
too many possibilities, and O walks with another win,,, will the MSM follow up on any of this?

This is a no cost to O game with a huge chance to only win 'cause no one will hole his feet to the fire.
63 posted on 07/18/2013 7:19:58 PM PDT by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS... We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? The Dems care!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

LOL...I was just being sarcastic. Should have included a tag!

No harm...no foul.


64 posted on 07/18/2013 7:20:59 PM PDT by left that other site (You Shall Know the Truth, and the Truth Shall Set You Free...John 8:32)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Why are you in such a hurry to hustle Mr. Zimmerman out of the country?

Stand your ground!


65 posted on 07/18/2013 7:22:01 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: snarkytart

Not all! Just saw Congressman King of Iowa speak out strongly in support if the Zimmerman jury and their verdict.


66 posted on 07/18/2013 7:25:29 PM PDT by orinoco (Orinoco)
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To: mac_truck

Im not

I just want him to have the right to go if he needs to..

do you want him to remain a prisoner in his own cou ntry where Holder and Obama can have him killed by their goons at any time ???

or do you want him to make his own choices if the need arises ???


67 posted on 07/18/2013 7:26:16 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Do we know for sure that Zimmerman hasn’t already gotten his gun back? I’d think that would be something his lawyers would have demanded right after the acquittal. Why wouldn’t he have gotten ALL his personal property returned to him immediately? Or at least by noon on the Monday after the verdict to allow for the evidence locker’s closure over the weekend.


68 posted on 07/18/2013 7:28:09 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad (((( No Democrat is or has been intentionally honest. Ever. ))))
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To: orinoco

Thats Awesome! Where did he speak on the floor on a TV show?


69 posted on 07/18/2013 7:29:03 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: rbmillerjr
Let’s see if Gov. Scott, who started this mess, will step up for the rule of law.

Speaking of RAT bastard coward Gov Scott, what is his take on the jury acquital of GZ? I suspect Gov Scott is also not abiding by the jury decision in light of Angela Corey's post trial histronics & slander against GM calling him a "murderer" even though the jury said otherwise.

If Gov Scott had any balls at all, he would hold a press conf, declare this whole sorry fiasco over & done with, terminate Angela Corey, and commit round the clock state trooper protection for GM. And then sit back and enjoy the liberal & racist heads exploding. What a pandering coward Gov Scott is!

70 posted on 07/18/2013 7:31:40 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
***Today, we learn that the United States Department of Justice is ordering the state of Florida to break its own law.***

Let's see if Pam Bondi, Jeb Bush, et. al., will shamelessly fold like a cheap suit once again. No reason to think they won't.

71 posted on 07/18/2013 7:32:52 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: MichaelCorleone

Didst thou forget a certain Florida US Senator from Cuba?


72 posted on 07/18/2013 7:34:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind each blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The DOJ has absolutely no jurisdiction. The man was found innocent, and thus has the right to retain his gun.

Somebody in Florida, please loan a gun to George until he gets his own back. I would!


73 posted on 07/18/2013 7:36:36 PM PDT by meyer (What would John Hancock do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“his lawful property”

Your damned right! I expect his defense team may still be de-compressing, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see a letter next week promising a writ for replevin along with a promise of a conversion suit with a demand for attorney fees, treble damages and whatever other damages allowed by the great state of Florida.
The ferals are out of control on the subject of George Zimmerman.
First, malicious prosecution and now this! It’s almost time to bring them some pain.
Go get ‘em George!


74 posted on 07/18/2013 7:37:12 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: SandRat

He needs the gun so that it can be sold to Mexican drug traffickers in Mexico. The government could use the money, and the funding for this sort of thing has dried up because of the sequester and all of that nasty negative publicity...


75 posted on 07/18/2013 7:40:48 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Zimmerman was innocent but he handled himself badly in the incident. His clumsiness made the situation deadly.


76 posted on 07/18/2013 7:41:44 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Fight the culture of nothing.)
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To: buridan
The 5th amendment applies to the Federal Government, not to the states.

And the DOJ is federal government.

However, the Supreme Court has held that most Bill of Rights protections were “incorporated” into the 14th amendment due process clause & therefore apply to the states through the 14th.

I rather hate “incorporation” — it's some magical operation used to subdue the States. Consider the 1st Amendment, it is quite cleat that it applies to Congress, most states don't have a congress but incorporation makes the text magically change into 'legislature' and then applied to the states.

77 posted on 07/18/2013 7:42:59 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: tsomer

No you are not.


78 posted on 07/18/2013 7:46:51 PM PDT by varina davis (A real American patriot -- Gov. Rick Perry)
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To: peeps36

And what about the Ft. Hood killer???


79 posted on 07/18/2013 7:47:10 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I guess you mean Rubio. Actually, I didn’t know he played a part in this, but I can’t say I’m surprised.


80 posted on 07/18/2013 7:47:38 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: VerySadAmerican
"It’s apparent to anyone paying attention that the NSA spying uncovered a lot of dirt on a lot of republican politicians."

Worth repeating. Everyone needs to understand this.

We are past the point of saving this country by "legal" methods.

81 posted on 07/18/2013 7:50:47 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: Mike Darancette

So because you think he handled himself badly and was clumsy or something he doesn’t get his weapon and other possessions back? Wow. Am I still on FreeRepublic? Dayum.


82 posted on 07/18/2013 7:56:15 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind each blade of grass.)
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To: Mike Darancette

He defended his life and acted completely fine. Are you sick in the head?


83 posted on 07/18/2013 8:07:03 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
GZ in noway handled himself poorly at all. He used his gun as a last resort and after the fact gave interviews and took a lie detector with a lawyer, and passed btw. The bastard government is who acted poorly. You're right seeing comment like that on here immediately make me think troll account.
84 posted on 07/18/2013 8:08:41 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: snarkytart

*meant without a lawyer


85 posted on 07/18/2013 8:09:26 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: Mike Darancette
His clumsiness made the situation deadly.

The only thing that made the situation deadly was Trayvon Martin's persistence in bashing George Zimmerman's head for 45+ seconds. Had Trayvon Martin not decided to do that, he'd still be alive.

86 posted on 07/18/2013 8:10:41 PM PDT by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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To: SandRat

Plant him on a pike.


87 posted on 07/18/2013 8:13:09 PM PDT by gotribe (Vladimir Putin is MY President)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Holder has no authority to prevent the rightful return of property.


88 posted on 07/18/2013 8:22:06 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

At this point they are just admitting that they are going to handle this situation by continually busting George Zimmermans balls until they kill him or he commits suicide.
I would have left the country immediately myself, assuming they immediately return his passport.


89 posted on 07/18/2013 8:27:31 PM PDT by JerseyDvl (Cogito Ergo Doleo Soetoro, ABO and of course FUBO!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“DOJ Won’t Give Back Zimmerman’s Gun”

Don’t be surprised if it turns up in Mexico sometime in the near future.


90 posted on 07/18/2013 8:58:21 PM PDT by 444Flyer (How long O LORD? Psalm 112)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Zimmerman should have identified himself as an armed neighborhood watch and pulled his piece at the beginning. One of the best uses of a firearm is to defuse a situation. Martin attacked Zimmerman because he thought he could get away with it he didn’t recognize the danger.

I don’t quite know where you got the notion I thought Zimmerman should lose his “other posessions”.


91 posted on 07/18/2013 9:14:40 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Fight the culture of nothing.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Pretty much figured Holder has no authority to withhold personal property without legal cause. However, if Zim wants the same gun, the Kel Tec PF9, he can find the cost of one a little over $300. ...If he can find one available.


92 posted on 07/18/2013 9:16:46 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: snarkytart
He defended his life and acted completely fine. Are you sick in the head?

If you think for a minute you might realize that the situation should have never gotten to that point where anyone was defending their life.

93 posted on 07/18/2013 9:17:53 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Fight the culture of nothing.)
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To: supercat
Had Trayvon Martin not decided to do that, he'd still be alive.

Had Martin known that Zimmerman was armed, Martin probably still be alive too.

Concealed carry is not always a good thing Zimmerman's gun should have been visible to Martin BEFORE the attack took place.

94 posted on 07/18/2013 9:23:32 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Fight the culture of nothing.)
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To: Mike Darancette

Please explain to me why you think he shouldn’t have his legally-purchased and owned pistol returned to him now that he has been acquitted and is no longer under any charges. Also, you do know that the HOA approved the neighborhood watch that he was the leader of, right? He wasn’t the “self-appointed” neighborhood watchman that the media and racialists make him out to be. Perhaps you should review the videos or transcripts of the trial.


95 posted on 07/18/2013 9:32:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind each blade of grass.)
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To: unlearner

You forgot to include the rest of the Obama administration.


96 posted on 07/18/2013 9:36:19 PM PDT by matt04
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Alright give him his gun back but don’t let him carry it in public concealed. The man acted weak, inept and stupid.


97 posted on 07/18/2013 9:41:04 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Fight the culture of nothing.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Stalking around in the dark after a suspect with no flashlight and your gun in your pocket is an invitation to be jumped.


98 posted on 07/18/2013 9:49:34 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Fight the culture of nothing.)
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To: Mike Darancette

He has a state-issued license to carry concealed. You do know this is Free Republic, right? And you’ve been here how long? Maybe read the constitution this weekend.


99 posted on 07/18/2013 9:50:34 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind each blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I know very well what Free Republic is, I’ve been here awhile. We should all have the right to own a gun, but not all people should be allowed to go around armed. Had Martin been armed there would be an unsolved murder in Sanford, Zimmerman’s.

GZ acted in self defense because he had to as the last act of a farce. He is not a hero to me.


100 posted on 07/18/2013 10:04:03 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Fight the culture of nothing.)
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