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Paul Ryan: ‘We don’t want to push people into citizenship’
washington examiner ^ | 7/18/13 | Rebecca Berg

Posted on 07/18/2013 8:05:45 PM PDT by Nachum

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Well, yet another politician goes off the reservation.

Yippee Ki-Yay M*********

1 posted on 07/18/2013 8:05:45 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

And they all want to work in the melon patch —not!


2 posted on 07/18/2013 8:08:16 PM PDT by Sybeck1 (Marco is a good conservative. Rush and Mark tell me that everyday.)
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To: Nachum

Mr. Ryan, I suggest you back away, turn around, walk the **** away, and never look back.

You are out of mulligans, you stupid, little noob.


3 posted on 07/18/2013 8:09:23 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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Most people just want to have a legal status so they can work to provide for their families,” he said.

As to legitimate residents and citizens . . . who cares if illegals want jobs? Let them find them in their own damn countries


4 posted on 07/18/2013 8:10:18 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (LEAVE THE ZIMMERMANS ALONE . . . NOT guilty . . .you LOST Now SHUT UP)
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To: Nachum

This guy is insane.


5 posted on 07/18/2013 8:10:29 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: chris37

GTH RYAN


6 posted on 07/18/2013 8:12:26 PM PDT by magna carta
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To: Nachum

You would think that after a few years of sampling all of our welfare programs and free health care, and voting in a few elections, that they would already have a thorough enough sample to know if they want to sign up to pay income tax and have dual citizenship.


7 posted on 07/18/2013 8:13:17 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Santorum appeared on CBS and pronounced George Zimmerman guilty of murder, first degree. March-2012)
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You are happy to offend American citizens who want a sane immigration policy, but God forbid you should offend an illegal alien.

And I once thought you were one of the good guys.

8 posted on 07/18/2013 8:14:09 PM PDT by TChad
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To: Nachum

It would be nice if Ryan would talk about how to assure illegals can’t come here and get on welfare benefits, but of course we know that will never happen. The Detroit of today is the California of tomorrow.


9 posted on 07/18/2013 8:17:42 PM PDT by Carismar
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To: Liz; AuntB; La Lydia; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker

Speechless PING


10 posted on 07/18/2013 8:17:48 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Nachum

Even that clown Joe Biden made him look like a wuss in their debate.

I couldn’t take more after he started talking about “bean” in the debate. It was so corny and made him look like a wuss.

This immigration thing makes me never ever won’t to see him on a national ticket again. If he keeps the BS up, I wouldn’t care if another demo replaces him because he’s becoming part of the problem.


11 posted on 07/18/2013 8:19:22 PM PDT by boycott
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What a jackass....ship them back where they came from, and start over.

It would save BILLIONS in handouts, but business interests (the ones who push Amnesty and "Los Freebies" will get their Amnesty approved and continue using the cheap labor, with their Benefits being funded by Taxpayers, as usual).

We need to put bounties on Illegals, and that would sure solve the issue.

12 posted on 07/18/2013 8:20:02 PM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: Nachum

Paul, you are trying to obfuscate the issue.

You’re dead to me, and when the letters start bombarding me for money, I am going to send them back but not with money in them. A short note in every letter I get.


13 posted on 07/18/2013 8:20:07 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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Rep. Paul Ryan said Thursday that Republicans are taking care not to “push” illegal immigrants to become American citizens as part of any comprehensive immigration reform package.

By all means, let's not FORCE anything on the criminals, those poor dear victims of our open border, anything-goes policies. Goodness, we wouldn't want them to worry that they have to **gasp** pay for some of the services we offer (which in fairness should be completely FREE to them): health care, medicine, education, housing, etc.

My gawd.... what a sorry, sad disappointment that nice boy from Wisconsin has turned out to be.

14 posted on 07/18/2013 8:20:19 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: magna carta

Yep.

Stinking republican.


15 posted on 07/18/2013 8:21:00 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Nachum

Dang, what an I-D-I-O-T.


16 posted on 07/18/2013 8:21:50 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Nachum
Damn it all! "Push" people into citizenship?

No one had to push my immigrant ancestors into anything! They came here willingly, legally, and through great danger - once here, they helped build this Great Nation! I am in awe of my antecedents - the withering persecution they endured both in their Homeland and after they arrived here testify to their fighting character. They and those they engendered have more than paid their dues, in war and peace.





"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

17 posted on 07/18/2013 8:24:21 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

Work to provide for their families, while they get Metro Housing, Medicaid, Food Stamps and send their wages to their families in their mother country.

What a bunch of stupid people there are in office.


18 posted on 07/18/2013 8:26:16 PM PDT by Catsrus (`)
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To: Nachum
Update: A spokesperson for Ryan later elaborated, saying Ryan’s statement did not actually reflect a major concern of Ryan’s. “Ryan simply said we don’t need a special pathway to citizenship to fix our immigration system,” said the spokesperson, Kevin Seifert.

Mister Ryan is expected to clarify further upon returning to the home planet.

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19 posted on 07/18/2013 8:30:51 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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What a dick. GFY Ryan.


20 posted on 07/18/2013 8:34:29 PM PDT by slouper (LWRC M6A2sad)
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To: Nachum

Paul Ryan-—the dems’ most recent used kleenex; soon to be thrown away.


21 posted on 07/18/2013 8:36:36 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: boycott
You're right! Biden was a complete smirking clown & buffoon & bully in the debate..... and Ryan looked like a smacked down teen-ager, unable to effectively debate or shut down Biden & his stupid antics. Another long list of Repubs who are unwilling & unable to do bare-knuckles battle with ruthless demoRATs.

And now Ryan has picked up where Rubio left off, carrying the amnesty battle on behalf of the RAT bastard demoRATs.

22 posted on 07/18/2013 8:37:47 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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SLUSH FUND to La Raza and lefty groups and lawyers, Paul—we KNOW, now. You can drop the act.

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-perspective/071713-664096-immigration-bill-filled-with-millions-special-interests-webhedand160-immigration-bill-millions-in-slush-funds-to-special-interests.htm


23 posted on 07/18/2013 8:41:01 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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And now Ryan has picked up where Rubio left off, carrying the amnesty battle on behalf of the RAT bastard demoRATs.

It's not only the (D)s. The (R) elites are there also. The "Two-Party Cartel" bought & owned by the same elites determine the show. 98% in CONgress are corrupt.

24 posted on 07/18/2013 8:47:30 PM PDT by Digger
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To: Nachum

Both Rubio and Ryan have become the face of the immigration bill for the Republicans. Both are taking (or will take in Ryan’a instance) a beating in their popularity with the base.

Sad thing is, they don’t seem to realize it will sink their political aspirations. We are losing two rising stars in the Republican party.


25 posted on 07/18/2013 8:50:05 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: rcrngroup

I liked Mitt but Paul Ryan was a weak weak WEAK choice for VP. The Peter Principle would apply to him. He’s really gone about as far as he’s capable.

I’ll never vote for him or Rubio on a national ticket now. I held my nose and voted for McLame (really against Obama). Ryan weighed down the republican ticket this past election.


26 posted on 07/18/2013 8:50:44 PM PDT by boycott
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To: Mortrey

That article is chilling. Who the heck are these people and how the heck do they continue to undermine everything!

I am so livid with Ryan, never ever expected him to go so far off the rails.


27 posted on 07/18/2013 8:56:29 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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To: Nachum

28 posted on 07/18/2013 8:59:45 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement ("World Peace 1.20.09.")
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I have a message for paul ryan. — Get the hell out of here. YOU ARE POLITICALLY FINISHED. YOU MAKE ME PUKE. WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT ILLEGAL STINKING ALIENS UP THERE IN WISCONSIN? YOU JACK ASS ? GO AWAY , I MEAN, GET GONE. NOW.


29 posted on 07/18/2013 9:02:21 PM PDT by SADMILLIE
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"Most people just want to have a legal status”

This is 100% correct. Most illegals do not want citizenship. It is the Democrats that want them to have citizenship.

30 posted on 07/18/2013 9:04:49 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant
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To: ConorMacNessa

yep...
My great grandfather on my mother’s side fled the famine in Ireland, came to America, joined the Army,fought at Manasses,
Got wounded, Got patched up, fought is a couple more battles, got wounded again, was mustered out, went home to Boston, Joined the National Guard, Fought the Great Boston Fire, became a Citizen, and died at a ripe old age from too much whiskey.

My father’s side were Injuns, so they had their own ideas about illegal immigrants! LOL!


31 posted on 07/18/2013 9:08:16 PM PDT by left that other site (You Shall Know the Truth, and the Truth Shall Set You Free...John 8:32)
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To: Nachum

Ryan needs to wake up and realize we don’t want Congress pushing Americans into another amnesty debacle.


32 posted on 07/18/2013 9:13:48 PM PDT by pallis
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The establishment is playing Ryan’s ego like a fiddle.


33 posted on 07/18/2013 9:22:18 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Nachum

Well and here I thought all illegal immigrants wanted to get citizenship so that they can vote Democrat.


34 posted on 07/18/2013 9:34:20 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Fight the culture of nothing.)
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Gawd, how did we go soooooo wrong on these guys? Either they are really good or we are really naïve and bad at character evaluations?


35 posted on 07/18/2013 9:49:42 PM PDT by biff (WAS)
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How about being bi-partisan and both parties pushing them out of the country but letting them come back legally a year later.


36 posted on 07/18/2013 9:58:53 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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Ryan said immigrants are more interested in finding jobs than in becoming citizens

And when they can't find jobs, they will join the black underclass and the rest of the Democrat party moocher base and vote Democrat in exchange for "free stuff" handed over to them by their Democrat politicians in exchange for their votes.

Thanks, Paul Ryan, you sick scumbag.

37 posted on 07/18/2013 10:16:45 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Nachum

legal immigrants must be flabberghasted to see politicians slobber all over themselves to reward the criminal element


38 posted on 07/18/2013 10:22:11 PM PDT by GeronL
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Because they are liars.

We were fooled, conned. Whether or not we continue to allow ourselves to be lied to when we know we are being lied to is going to be the test.

And it is a pass or fail test.

I think that our government is lying to us to an extent that we cannot even begin to fathom.

I think we are deep, serious danger.


39 posted on 07/18/2013 10:23:22 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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Ryan simply said we don’t need a special pathway to citizenship to fix our immigration system,” said the spokesperson, Kevin Seifert.

??? I was looking for some direct quotes from Ryan that contradict this (Ryan saying that illegals must have citizenship), but most of the articles say things like he is "working behind the scenes" or quote hearsay from characters such as Gutierrez. I listened to the Levin interview but didn't hear anything about citizenship vs. legalization.

"Paul Ryan says we cannot have a permanent underclass of Americans, that there needs to be a pathway to citizenship," says Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill., who has been working relentlessly on immigration legislation. "He is my guiding light. I know I get him in trouble every time I say it."

Maybe Ryan is reacting to blowback? Did Gutierrez lie about Ryan?

40 posted on 07/18/2013 11:20:13 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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like some smarter leftists he understands that illegals don’t want to be citizens, the last thing they want to do is draw the attention of any gov’t to themselves. they are after all the definition of lawless people.

they just want all the benefits (free access to jobs, free access to welfare, free access to education, etc.) of being here with none of the responsiblity of citizenship (taxes, becoming American, etc.)

most won’t come forward even if they are given gold plated amnesty. they just call their friends and family in mexico and say come on in. the won’t do anything to you.

how ryan can call himself a catholic and take such an immoral position is beyond me.


41 posted on 07/18/2013 11:37:42 PM PDT by dadfly
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Oh, Don’t worry, you won’t.

They didn’t come here for citizenship.


42 posted on 07/18/2013 11:38:44 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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Paul Ryan: ‘We don’t want to push people into citizenship’

But it's perfectly acceptable to allow them to push us into supporting them and paying for the results of their criminal activity?

What's wrong with this picture?

I prefer deporting them all, no matter how long it takes.

They can soil our nest, but have simultaneous disdain for our culture.
what's wrong with that picture?

43 posted on 07/19/2013 12:04:59 AM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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Ryan, you are an IDIOT.


44 posted on 07/19/2013 2:35:32 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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RE :”Ryan simply said we don’t need a special pathway to citizenship to fix our immigration system,” said the spokesperson, Kevin Seifert.
.....
??? I was looking for some direct quotes from Ryan that contradict this (Ryan saying that illegals must have citizenship)”

Rand Paul was using this terminology months ago, and some others too.
They explain that the wait time makes the amnesty ‘unspecial’ because they must ‘get on back of the line’ when they wait that probation period.

45 posted on 07/19/2013 4:36:17 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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Bolstering prospects for comprehensive immigration reform, Rep. Paul Ryan predicted that the Republican-controlled House would approve a so-called path to citizenship, despite conservative opposition.....Ryan, an influential conservative, lent support to those hopes. He told an audience in Washington assembled by the pro-reform National Association of Manufacturers that "earned legalization is an issue I think the House can and will deal with."
Paul Ryan Sees House Passing 'Path to Citizenship' (12 Jun 2013 , CNBC)
46 posted on 07/19/2013 4:41:44 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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>>And they all want to work in the melon patch —not!

In 1918 it was sugar-beat fields.



No Obama Phones or Commie-care required. The Blacksmith who made this photo of his family didn't need it in "The Old Country" or in the new.

Back then refusing health "insurance" wasn't tax evasion, either.

I wonder who will play the role of the Romanovs this time.
47 posted on 07/19/2013 4:45:24 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: Tennessee Nana; AuntB; TADSLOS; sickoflibs; no-to-illegals; GOPJ; Grampa Dave; ...
Ryan is beneath contempt----says all illegals wanna do is get legal status so thay can work to providefor their families.

So do real Americans..... and immigtants here that played by the voluminous rules (THOUGHTFULLY DETAILED BY TENNESSEE NANA ELSEWHERE).

Ryan's stupidity is beyond belief....he actually believes this bullcocky.

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Ryan compounded his stupidity by his sap-happy claim that reform would "take them out of the shadows, so that they can give us their real identities."

MEMO TO RYAN your sap-happy faith in human nature will not be rewarded---especially by the conniving primitive invaders sucking off taxpayers.

Using multiple identities is v-e-r-y profitable.

<><> one latino illegal (one who got caught) scammed UI for some $3.4 MILLION.

<><> The Washington state latino rapist had some 30 identities---all riding the US gravy train.

<><> $43 million IRS refunds were sent to one address---that's about 37,000 fake ids---just at one address.

=====================================================

HERE'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY COME OUT OF THE SHADOWS--they already have multiple faked ID's to get drivers' licenses under different names....which also allows them to vote under different names....and collect US freebies under different names.

1. legalization forces them to get drivers' licenses under their real names.

2. state computers run a photo-match check to see if the same person has applied under different names.

3. they get investigated for ID theft and have to answer to a judge.

4. they get prosecuted under US law.

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END OF STORY Ryan still fronts for legalization---with his cock and bull story about enabling illegals "to happily come out of the shadows w/ real identities."

Makes you wonder what else Gutierrez has been feeding his lapdog about this atrocious bill.

48 posted on 07/19/2013 5:06:06 AM PDT by Liz
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Yeah Ryan we don’t want to insult them by making them become citizens. Smoke mirrors and bull Shiite to feed the line of crap that they won’t vote. Well if they won’t vote and don’t want to be citizens they are only here to steal jobs. Send them packing!


49 posted on 07/19/2013 5:09:38 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Nachum

Ryan is a lost cause. He’s on the side of the elite, social corporatists.


50 posted on 07/19/2013 5:17:55 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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