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The NSA Admits It Analyzes More People's Data Than Previously Revealed
Atlantic Wire ^ | July 17, 2013 | Philip Bump

Posted on 07/19/2013 5:01:06 AM PDT by don-o

As an aside during testimony on Capitol Hill today, a National Security Agency representative rather casually indicated that the government looks at data from a universe of far, far more people than previously indicated.

Chris Inglis, the agency's deputy director, was one of several government representatives—including from the FBI and the office of the Director of National Intelligence—testifying before the House Judiciary Committee this morning. Most of the testimony largely echoed previous testimony by the agencies on the topic of the government's surveillance, including a retread of the same offered examples for how the Patriot Act and Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act had stopped terror events.

But Inglis' statement was new. Analysts look "two or three hops" from terror suspects when evaluating terror activity, Inglis revealed. Previously, the limit of how surveillance was extended had been described as two hops. This meant that if the NSA were following a phone metadata or web trail from a terror suspect, it could also look at the calls from the people that suspect has spoken with—one hop. And then, the calls that second person had also spoken with—two hops. Terror suspect to person two to person three. Two hops. And now: A third hop.

snip Let's say the government suspects you are a terrorist and it has access to your Facebook account. If you're an American citizen, it can't do that currently (with certain exceptions)—but for the sake of argument. So all of your friends, that's one hop. Your friends' friends, whether you know them or not—two hops. Your friends' friends' friends, whoever they happen to be, are that third hop. That's a massive group of people that the NSA apparently considers fair game.


Inglis' admission didn't register among the members of Congress present, but immediately resonated with privacy advocates online.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chrisinglis; edwardsnowden; inglis; nsa; nsaleaks; snowden; surveillance; tyranny
Once again, the "rest of the story" comes trickling out.
1 posted on 07/19/2013 5:01:06 AM PDT by don-o
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To: don-o

Looks like they’re playing a government version of “Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon.”

2 posted on 07/19/2013 5:06:54 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (July 4, 1776: Declaration of Independence. Nov 6, 2012: Declaration of Dependence. R.I.P. America.)
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To: don-o

If you have access to “it all” then there is no reason why you don’t keep “it all”......that simple.

NSA lies, FBI lies, they all lie. They aren’t building that Mega-Memory Death Star out in Utah to save recipes.

3 posted on 07/19/2013 5:11:36 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: don-o

And bears admitted that they really do $h!t in the woods...

4 posted on 07/19/2013 5:37:58 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: don-o
This is a government lubricated slippery slope that can only lead to a bad outcome.

Feds listen to all conversations looking for key words.
I have nothing to hide, so listen to as many phone calls as you want.

The gov't has cameras on every light pole.
I have nothing to hide, so watch my every movement as much as you want.

Every car will have a black box and GPS for the government to know your every mile driven, where you've been, and how fast you drive.
I have nothing to hide so examine every inch of mileage I drive.

The IRS will now every dollar I have in the bank and will know every dollar I spend on healthcare and why.
I have nothing to hide, so Federal bureaucrats and political operatives planted in the IRS can know every time I sneeze and every cold pill I take.

Liberty and Freedom has been boiled down to convincing you that the government now can be as intrusive and nosey as it wants since we are now at the "I have nothing to hide" standard of privacy.

A reversal may require the fertilization of the Liberty Tree.

5 posted on 07/19/2013 5:40:19 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: don-o

Everytime you turn on your computer or text, just send out a “howdy!” to the guy behind the screen.

6 posted on 07/19/2013 5:47:56 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: trebb
And bears admitted

Speaking of bears.

Bear and salmon cam

(Lower right of player has options for additional cams. Pardon the hijack of the thread, but this is very cool.)

7 posted on 07/19/2013 5:59:27 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o

Anybody who posts anything here on FreeRepublic or even lurks here can rest assured that the gubermint has an extensive portfolio in you. Just sayin.

8 posted on 07/19/2013 6:00:30 AM PDT by bayliving
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To: don-o
Three hops puts me in the middle of the Watergate scandal.....on BOTH sides
oh,...the horror

9 posted on 07/19/2013 6:17:17 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

Assuming each person in each step knows 25 unique individuals you can reach 6 billion + people in 7 steps. That’s basically the earth’s population give or take.

I have links to hundreds on one alumni email distribution and 300+ on Linkedin. Granted I don’t correspond with them much. But if the alumni email distribution is an indicator - then if 100 unique contacts are reached at each node then the earth’s population is well exceeded in 5 steps.

10 posted on 07/19/2013 7:05:01 AM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: don-o

Trying to stay one step ahead of Glenn Greenwald’s next byline

11 posted on 07/19/2013 7:28:27 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: reed13k

By that logic, shouldn’t the NSA focus all their efforts just on tapping Kevin Bacon?

12 posted on 07/19/2013 7:29:13 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

It’s mathematical doesn’t matter where they start.

But yeah, I’d prefer they focus on whoever is the latest brain dead celebrity of the week with the greatest twitter following, then I have less chance of getting caught in the dragnet....well there is my cousin.... ah hell we’re all screwed.


13 posted on 07/19/2013 8:01:53 AM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: don-o

Isn’t there a law (maybe FOIA) that says you are entitled to see all records the government is keeping on you? (if not under an active criminal investigation)

If so, I have an idea that could shut this down.

We get a freeper lawyer to post the form and process for making such requests, and we do a records access drive/protest.

We could cripple their capabilities, lawfully, by taxing their tyrannical system with lawful requests.

Let’s freep the NSA.


(Please forward or ping to anyone that could be helpful.)

14 posted on 07/20/2013 8:46:46 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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