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Mig-25 defection: How a Soviet Pilot Brought a Secret Warplane To The West
The Aviationist ^ | July 19, 2013 | Jacek Siminski, David Cenciotti

Posted on 07/19/2013 6:26:41 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

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1 posted on 07/19/2013 6:26:41 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

i heard him speak about his defection back in 1988 at an Association of Old Crows convention... fascinating... no, i was not a member of the AOC... i worked as an assistant for two Old Crows... one was a Lt. Col. who reminded me so much Oliver North... it was funny... back then they would tease me and call me Fawn Hall... :)


2 posted on 07/19/2013 6:41:39 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I recall that Western experts were surprised that the MIG-25 was not built mostly of titanium like US Mach 2+ jets, but of steel.


3 posted on 07/19/2013 6:43:13 AM PDT by The Great RJ (construction)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Interesting reading, have to follow this.

Thanks Suke!


4 posted on 07/19/2013 6:43:38 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: sukhoi-30mki; zot

Thank you for bringing back the memory of Blenko & his Mig-25


5 posted on 07/19/2013 6:46:36 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
was the fact that the MiG-25 was completely unknown in the West [1976].

Not true. I was a war game enthusiast in my early teens, and there was a game called "Foxbat & Phantom" in the early 1970s.

Maybe have been the "game of the month (bi-month?)" in Strategy & Tactics Magazine.

6 posted on 07/19/2013 6:46:48 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: sukhoi-30mki
I got a chance to crawl around in a Mig-25 at Nellis AFB in 1984. At the time I was an avionics tech on the F-15. I was struck by how crude and primitive the Mig was compared to the F-15. The cockpit looked like something from the 40’s. All the technology and engineering looked about 40 years behind the F-15 and F-16. I was told what made them a threat was the shear number of Migs the USSR could throw at us. We found out in subsequent skirmishes in the Mideast (just like in Vietnam) that the Mig’s were no match for our jets even with the advantage in numbers.
7 posted on 07/19/2013 6:47:59 AM PDT by BO Stinkss (RINOs sux)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

distrust of, not distrust on.


8 posted on 07/19/2013 6:49:12 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: latina4dubya

That brings back memories. I rember seeing my dad’s AOC magazines/newsletters coming in the mail as a kid and being fascinated :^)


9 posted on 07/19/2013 6:50:35 AM PDT by Windcatcher (Obama is a COMMUNIST and the MSM is his armband-wearing propaganda machine.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

IIRC there were a lot of guffaws concerning the radio because it was vacuum tube.
Then they realized the radio was relatively immune to EMP.


10 posted on 07/19/2013 6:52:28 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I have read somewhere that the MIG 25 was a bit of a copy of the Canadian Avro which was cancelled due to so many Soviet spies being involved in the program.

Also tho the MIG 25 had an incredible top speed, it was not all that great as a fighter.


11 posted on 07/19/2013 6:54:07 AM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: yarddog

It was designed as a pure interceptor. It was immense and not maneuverable, and would have been a poor dogfighter. Its purpose was to intercept high-flying bombers and recon aircraft; really, it was largely a Soviet counter to something like the USAF’s XB-70 Valkyrie, the Mach 3 bomber prototype tested during the ‘60s but abandoned because of the increasing accuracy of SAMs and ICBMs/SLBMs.

The MiG-25 was built to climb rapidly, dash toward a target at Mach 2+, and fire missiles. But it wasn’t until this defection that the West really understood that the MiG-25 wasn’t some kind of air superiority superfighter. The result of the West’s panic over the MiG-25 were the F-14 Tomcat and the F-15 Eagle, both of which (the F-15 especially) were vastly superior air superiority fighters to the Foxbat.

}:-)4


12 posted on 07/19/2013 7:02:05 AM PDT by Moose4 (SHALL. NOT. BE. INFRINGED.)
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To: Calvin Locke

I played that game as well. I think late 1973 or early 1974.


13 posted on 07/19/2013 7:06:09 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: The Great RJ
the leading edges were protected by titanium strips
and had (surprising short) range of 186 km
could do 3.2 mach after that;
the engines were unuseable/fried
use advanced tube technology
radar strong enough to
kill rabbits @ couple meters...
basically an all weather, short range interceptor.

14 posted on 07/19/2013 7:11:10 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
What is interesting is the fact that SAM crews did not know that the plane had already been shot down because MiG’s’ IFF transponders were not updated (May 1st is a national holiday), therefore several MiG’s were also shot down by S-75 rockets.

I had never heard that before. Also, in the West, the S-75 Dvina was known as the SA-2 Guideline.

15 posted on 07/19/2013 7:14:43 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: The Great RJ
I recall that Western experts were surprised that the MIG-25 was not built mostly of titanium like US Mach 2+ jets, but of steel.

Robert K. Dornan, who was running for Congress at the time, called the MiG-25 a "flying tank."

16 posted on 07/19/2013 7:16:37 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: sukhoi-30mki
In his “Mig pilot” book (1983) John Barron claims that Viktor Belenko’s defection was completely voluntary and was the result of Belenko’s distrust on communist regime.

Belenko's wife was a real shrew too, and that made his decision to make a run for it in the his Foxbat that much easier.

17 posted on 07/19/2013 7:18:48 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: The Great RJ

And it was riveted together, with rust stains on the seams.


18 posted on 07/19/2013 7:19:24 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: BO Stinkss

Well, a MiG-25 was a pure interceptor, designed to catch and shootdown U-2s and SR-71s. It’s turn radius was a hundred miles, and it could only sustain 3 G’s before the wings would fall off. It was no dogfighter like the F-15, but was designed to fly mostly in a straight line like a bat out of hell.


19 posted on 07/19/2013 7:21:49 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: The Great RJ

And that it had rust on it.


20 posted on 07/19/2013 7:23:32 AM PDT by Hulka
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