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1 posted on 07/19/2013 6:26:41 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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i heard him speak about his defection back in 1988 at an Association of Old Crows convention... fascinating... no, i was not a member of the AOC... i worked as an assistant for two Old Crows... one was a Lt. Col. who reminded me so much Oliver North... it was funny... back then they would tease me and call me Fawn Hall... :)


2 posted on 07/19/2013 6:41:39 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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I recall that Western experts were surprised that the MIG-25 was not built mostly of titanium like US Mach 2+ jets, but of steel.


3 posted on 07/19/2013 6:43:13 AM PDT by The Great RJ (construction)
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Interesting reading, have to follow this.

Thanks Suke!


4 posted on 07/19/2013 6:43:38 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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Thank you for bringing back the memory of Blenko & his Mig-25


5 posted on 07/19/2013 6:46:36 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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was the fact that the MiG-25 was completely unknown in the West [1976].

Not true. I was a war game enthusiast in my early teens, and there was a game called "Foxbat & Phantom" in the early 1970s.

Maybe have been the "game of the month (bi-month?)" in Strategy & Tactics Magazine.

6 posted on 07/19/2013 6:46:48 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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I got a chance to crawl around in a Mig-25 at Nellis AFB in 1984. At the time I was an avionics tech on the F-15. I was struck by how crude and primitive the Mig was compared to the F-15. The cockpit looked like something from the 40’s. All the technology and engineering looked about 40 years behind the F-15 and F-16. I was told what made them a threat was the shear number of Migs the USSR could throw at us. We found out in subsequent skirmishes in the Mideast (just like in Vietnam) that the Mig’s were no match for our jets even with the advantage in numbers.
7 posted on 07/19/2013 6:47:59 AM PDT by BO Stinkss (RINOs sux)
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distrust of, not distrust on.


8 posted on 07/19/2013 6:49:12 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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IIRC there were a lot of guffaws concerning the radio because it was vacuum tube.
Then they realized the radio was relatively immune to EMP.


10 posted on 07/19/2013 6:52:28 AM PDT by Vinnie
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I have read somewhere that the MIG 25 was a bit of a copy of the Canadian Avro which was cancelled due to so many Soviet spies being involved in the program.

Also tho the MIG 25 had an incredible top speed, it was not all that great as a fighter.


11 posted on 07/19/2013 6:54:07 AM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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What is interesting is the fact that SAM crews did not know that the plane had already been shot down because MiG’s’ IFF transponders were not updated (May 1st is a national holiday), therefore several MiG’s were also shot down by S-75 rockets.

I had never heard that before. Also, in the West, the S-75 Dvina was known as the SA-2 Guideline.

15 posted on 07/19/2013 7:14:43 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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In his “Mig pilot” book (1983) John Barron claims that Viktor Belenko’s defection was completely voluntary and was the result of Belenko’s distrust on communist regime.

Belenko's wife was a real shrew too, and that made his decision to make a run for it in the his Foxbat that much easier.

17 posted on 07/19/2013 7:18:48 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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Thanks for posting. The late Richard ‘Moody’ Suter, exceptional fighter pilot, excellent thinker (he created Red Flag in Nevada and Warrior Prep in Germany) and all around great guy was one of the people who debriefed Belenko. I think of this event often because my wife and I drive by Airlie, VA on the way to our daughters to visit. Airlie is a conference center/retreat in Northern Virginia and that’s where The Agency kept Belenko for some time.


23 posted on 07/19/2013 7:29:25 AM PDT by Portcall24 (WAS WHERE3)
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I bought and read the defecting pilot’s book (now given to a friend) when it was first published many years ago.

I think this statement was wrong.>

“Although pilot defections during the Cold War were not a rarity, what made Belenko’s defection unique was the fact that the MiG-25 was completely unknown in the West. “

We already new what this plane was capable of in speed, but not the actual construction. What we did not know was when the bursts of speed took place, the plane needed major repairs.

It was an very interesting book, concerning life in the military in the USSR.


24 posted on 07/19/2013 7:34:39 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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a Soviet countermeasure – the MiG-25

I thought the MiG-25 was designed to intercept the B-70?

26 posted on 07/19/2013 7:47:19 AM PDT by fso301
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What was not mentioned is the famous XB-70 Valkyarie. Original Design and manufacture of the MIG-25 was to intercept the coming threat of the B-70. USAF scrapped the project leaving Russia to further develop the Foxbat.
28 posted on 07/19/2013 7:49:35 AM PDT by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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In the book “Mig pilot” when Viktor Belenko came to the U.S. he wanted to see if the country was full of poor people ruled by gangsters as he had been told all his life. So he asked his handlers if he could go to a grocery store. They took him to the nearest one (in D.C.) and he saw food, fresh meat, etc. like nothing he'd ever seen in the USSR. So he thought ' well this is a show store for tourists ' So he asked to go to another store. So after several stores he finally asked to go to one in the worst neighborhood. There he saw what he expected : thugs, the very poor...But even there was lots of food, bread , fresh meat and nobody was shoving or fighting to get it......we don't know what we got....it's a good book by the way...
29 posted on 07/19/2013 7:51:43 AM PDT by virgil283 ( ... """" Will ye no come back again;."''''''')
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Mikoyan also made a version of MiG-25 for supesonic bombing, armed with the Peleng-2 system. No info on whether it was used al least once, though.


31 posted on 07/19/2013 7:53:36 AM PDT by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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I recall after the Soviet Union collapsed, there was a meeting between Russian and U.S. Pilots. They all hit it off becoming friends and discussing shop I guess.

A defector pilot from the Soviet Union, (I am not sure who he was), came up to the Russian Pilots and they would not even speak to him. Totally gave him the cold shoulder.


33 posted on 07/19/2013 8:02:18 AM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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The U-2 was eventually shot down by an S-75 Dvina missile

Mostly idle talk, but some have said it actually might have been a BOMB.

Yes, sounds very weird.

45 posted on 07/19/2013 10:39:57 AM PDT by gaijin
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good stuff,
interesting read
Thanks


47 posted on 07/19/2013 11:09:21 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) ( Hey Rubio, eat pooh pal))
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