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Owner Of Burned Out Cabin In Dorner Manhunt Files $420K Claim Against San Bernardino Co.
CBSLA.com) ^ | July 19, 2013 6:36 AM

Posted on 07/19/2013 9:39:38 AM PDT by BenLurkin

SAN BERNARDINO (CBSLA.com) — The owner of a Barton Flats cabin has filed a claim against San Bernardino County saying sheriff’s deputies allowed it to burn during a standoff with rouge former Los Angeles police officer Christopher Dorner.

Candice Martin is seeking $420,000, alleging deputies made no effort to save her cabin in the 40000 block of Seven Oaks Road on February 13.

Following a 10-day manhunt, Dorner barricaded himself inside the structure, shooting two deputies, killing Detective Jeremiah MacKay and seriously injuring Deputy Alex Collins.

The vacation rental caught fire after authorities fired tear gas inside.

Martin, of Palmdale, said deputies did nothing to put out the fire which ultimately destroyed the cabin. Dorner’s body was recovered from inside the structure, however, it was unclear if he died in the blaze or if he committed suicide.

The county has 45 days to respond to the claim, and if rejected, a lawsuit can be filed.


TOPICS: US: California
KEYWORDS: dorner; lawsuit; leo
I think the County may be immune from any damages based on them not putting the fire out.

For starting the fire however.....

1 posted on 07/19/2013 9:39:39 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin
Wasn't there a radio transmission of cops saying something like "light her up?"
2 posted on 07/19/2013 9:40:45 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: BenLurkin

some ‘cabin’ at a half mil....


3 posted on 07/19/2013 9:41:51 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Intentional or not, the tear gas is what caused the fire.


4 posted on 07/19/2013 9:42:00 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

I would think that somebody has coverage for the damage. If they owner has insurance then the insurance carrier should pay and restore then subbrogate it to the County.


5 posted on 07/19/2013 9:42:05 AM PDT by ncfool (Obama's aMeriKa 2012 The land of entitlement for the 51% crowd.)
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To: ncfool

I think both can sue. The defendant has to make sure it doesn’t pay twice.


6 posted on 07/19/2013 9:42:53 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

>> during a standoff with rouge former Los Angeles police officer Christopher Dorner

rouge, eh? I knew he had mental issues, but I hadn’t heard he was a cross-dresser.

Well, it IS L.A. maybe men wearing rouge is de rigueur.


7 posted on 07/19/2013 9:43:05 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: BenLurkin

Hard to believe they haven’t made much improvement on gas delivery since Waco.


8 posted on 07/19/2013 9:43:41 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: ncfool

I agree with you. Seems like the amount is such that the county should pay, not drag it out at much greater expense.


9 posted on 07/19/2013 9:43:55 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Nervous Tick

BTTT


10 posted on 07/19/2013 9:44:01 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: TurboZamboni

What’s to improve on?


11 posted on 07/19/2013 9:44:48 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Nervous Tick

Thank you. Rouge vs rogue.


12 posted on 07/19/2013 9:44:51 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: camle

>> some ‘cabin’ at a half mil....

I think you can get an outhouse for a quarter of a mil out there... that’s about it. Half a mil for a shack sounds about right.


13 posted on 07/19/2013 9:44:52 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: BenLurkin

“during a standoff with rouge former Los Angeles police officer”

Oh no! Another old lady with very pink cheeks?


14 posted on 07/19/2013 9:44:55 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Maybe the draft was in cursive — and the editor couldn’t quite make out the spelling.


15 posted on 07/19/2013 9:45:48 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Nervous Tick

The cops reported his cheeks were flush as the fire started.


16 posted on 07/19/2013 9:46:02 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: morphing libertarian

>> The cops reported his cheeks were flush as the fire started.

I wonder if that got ‘em all hot.


17 posted on 07/19/2013 9:47:48 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: BenLurkin

When have we heard of government firing tear gas and starting a fire...hmmm!

A little human bar-b-que in Texas seems to come to mind.


18 posted on 07/19/2013 9:48:11 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam! 969)
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To: Nervous Tick

You beat me to that “rouge” gaffe-I was going to ask the same thing...

A news source that doesn’t look up the spelling/meaning of the word they want to use-I assume they meant “rogue”, but it is California...


19 posted on 07/19/2013 9:51:22 AM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Nervous Tick

“I think you can get an outhouse for a quarter of a mil out there...”

Well I can tell you that our 1940 1400 sf cottage in Carmel is appraised for $1.5 million! Of that amount, the land is worth $1 million. The original owner had it built ( including the land) for $4k.


20 posted on 07/19/2013 9:52:32 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: BenLurkin
What’s to improve on?

Looks like the got the intended result. Just like Waco!

21 posted on 07/19/2013 9:53:26 AM PDT by tpmintx (Gun free zones are hunting preserves for unarmed people.)
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To: BenLurkin

“during a standoff with rouge former Los Angeles police officer Christopher Dorner”

I thought he was black, not red?!?


22 posted on 07/19/2013 9:54:25 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: vette6387
The original owner had it built ( including the land) for $4k.I'll offer you DOUBLE. $8k in CASH right now!
23 posted on 07/19/2013 9:54:49 AM PDT by tpmintx (Gun free zones are hunting preserves for unarmed people.)
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To: camle
Its probably not that expensive. You have to figure, to get all the replacement materials on site, a crew lined up to re-build, allllll the permits and zoning fee's, replacing personal belongings; it adds up quick.

If you don't have it in your homeowners policy, you should look at getting "complete rebuild coverage". Some policies "out there" are insuring people for materials and some monetary for personal items. Conveniently, they have left out the $$$ it will take to actually re-build your home.

24 posted on 07/19/2013 9:55:08 AM PDT by Ghost of SVR4
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To: TurboZamboni; BenLurkin

“Hard to believe they haven’t made much improvement on gas delivery since Waco.”

It got rid of all the evidence and made the inhabitants dead to tell no tales. Cops got to go home and the media kept it quiet.

How much more improvement do you need?


25 posted on 07/19/2013 9:58:16 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: BenLurkin
The owner of a Barton Flats cabin has filed a claim against San Bernardino County saying sheriff’s deputies allowed it to burn during a standoff with rouge former Los Angeles police officer Christopher Dorner.

I thought he was black.

Flippin' idjit writers.

26 posted on 07/19/2013 10:01:05 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS
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To: ncfool

Most insurance contracts have an out for the carrier based on “force majeure” and that was evident in spades on this deal. The government used unlawful force, initiated at command’s discretion, so the government has to pay.


27 posted on 07/19/2013 10:10:34 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: Nervous Tick

lol


28 posted on 07/19/2013 10:15:01 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: BenLurkin

“The vacation rental caught fire after authorities fired tear gas inside”

Well that and bulldozing one whole side of the cabin before torching it with kerosene torches. Audio of the whole thing clearly heard on numerous tapes.


29 posted on 07/19/2013 10:18:13 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: BenLurkin

I thought I remembered the owner of cabin going on TV saying he would not seek damages because he agreed with the police tactics or something. So much for that.


30 posted on 07/19/2013 10:18:56 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: BenLurkin
Arson under cover of authority.

They should be asking for full replacement cost, treble damages and whatever exemplary and punitive damages the court sees fit to impose.

31 posted on 07/19/2013 10:19:28 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: Wurlitzer
A little human bar-b-que in Texas seems to come to mind.

They did alright in Philly, too, when they burned out John Africa's MOVE crib.

32 posted on 07/19/2013 10:23:00 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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To: TurboZamboni
Hard to believe they haven’t made much improvement on gas delivery since Waco.

They have varieties of tear gas canisters that aren't incendiary devices.

They don't use them when the intent is to start a fire and burn the cop killing bastard (or the evil cult members and their children) alive.

33 posted on 07/19/2013 10:23:19 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: camle

I have a cabin in the Washington Cascades that’s appraised for about $350,000. It’s not great shakes, but it’s nice and on a few acres and since I built it 15 years ago it has basically tripled in value, so I can easily imagine now a place near Yosemite could be worth a half mil. Don’t forget, her place is also a rental - a cheap place will rent for $1500 a week, so at that rate and even if it was only rented out half the time, we’re talking almost $40,000 a year.


34 posted on 07/19/2013 10:23:58 AM PDT by stormer
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To: penelopesire

Seeking damages and being “made whole” are two different things. Damages implies a punitive element, and not merely having your property replaced.


35 posted on 07/19/2013 10:26:53 AM PDT by stormer
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

When all this was going down I was listening to it on police scanner. I heard two cops discussing that they were going to go ahead with the burn out and that it needed to go just like discussed. Soon thereafter the scanner crashed and the house burned down....

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/2987845/posts?page=599#599


36 posted on 07/19/2013 10:50:45 AM PDT by RedhairRedhair (I STILL love my (scab made) Toyota)
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To: BenLurkin

...a standoff with rouge former Los Angeles police officer Christopher Dorner.

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What, they’re calling him “rouge”!? Is that racist?


37 posted on 07/19/2013 10:55:33 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: Nervous Tick

Maybe he was Khmer Rouge?


38 posted on 07/19/2013 10:56:13 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: BenLurkin

The guy probably has insurance. Certainly, he should. If he doesn’t, well, life is full of ups and downs.


39 posted on 07/19/2013 10:57:15 AM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
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Wanting to end the standoff before nightfall, members of the sheriff's SWAT unit carried out a plan they had devised for a final assault on the cabin, according to law enforcement sources. An officer drove a demolition vehicle up to the building and methodically tore down most of its walls, the sources said.

With the cabin's interior exposed, the officer got on the radio to others awaiting his order. "We're going to go forward with the plan, with the burner," the unidentified officer said, according to a recording of police radio transmissions reviewed by The Times.

"The burner" was shorthand for a grenade-like canister containing a more powerful type of tear gas than had been used earlier. Police use the nickname because of the intense heat the device gives off, often starting a fire.

"Seven burners deployed," another officer responded several seconds later, according to the transmission which has circulated widely among law enforcement officials. "And we have a fire."

Within minutes the cabin was fully engulfed in flames, ending a dramatic manhunt that captivated the nation.

40 posted on 07/19/2013 11:14:24 AM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: camle

If you’ve ever been to Big Bear, a half million will only buy you a shack.


41 posted on 07/19/2013 2:01:06 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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That is about right. I have owned property in Lake Arrowhead.
42 posted on 07/19/2013 2:24:03 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek (")
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To: BenLurkin

That would have been the tear gas canister with the big red X on it, the one that burns extra hot due to the thermite inside.


43 posted on 07/19/2013 5:40:22 PM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: TurboZamboni

Hard to believe they haven’t made much improvement on gas delivery since Waco.

I don’t know it seemed like it went up faster this time around...


44 posted on 07/19/2013 5:42:51 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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