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Enzi Clobbers Cheney in First Public Poll of Primary
roll call ^ | 7/19/13 | Emily Cahn

Posted on 07/19/2013 11:40:10 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

A new poll shows Sen. Michael B. Enzi, R-Wyo., with a considerable lead over his primary opponent, just days after Liz Cheney announced she would challenge him.

Enzi led Cheney, 55 percent to 21 percent, in a survey from Harper Polling, a Republican firm.

Earlier this week Cheney, who is daughter of former Vice President Dick Cheney, announced she would challenge the three-term Republican.

(Excerpt) Read more at 3.atr.rollcall.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Wyoming
KEYWORDS: 2014; wyoming
I posted Enzi's ratings via American Conservative Union and the Heritage Foundation--and he is a solid conservative.

Yes, he wanted to tax the internets. Dumb move.

He is also a strong conservative by most measures.

Liz is strong on foreign policy but is pro-sodomite "marriage"...

I would vote for Enzi if I were in Wyoming.

1 posted on 07/19/2013 11:40:10 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

if those are the only 2 choices - sad really - I guess its Enzi


2 posted on 07/19/2013 11:43:02 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: SoFloFreeper
Liz is strong on foreign policy but is pro-sodomite "marriage"...

What good is a strong foreign policy, if your nation collapses from within?

3 posted on 07/19/2013 11:43:26 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Enzo has had 16 years to be Wyoming,s Ted Cruz. Where is WYs resident Cruz?


4 posted on 07/19/2013 11:44:19 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: SoFloFreeper

GOOD Liz Cheney+Wyoming US Senate “Race” = 1st Class CARPETBAGGER!


5 posted on 07/19/2013 11:44:20 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Actually, he’s way down the list among the republicans in the senate.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3044910/posts


6 posted on 07/19/2013 11:47:08 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: SoFloFreeper

I think the GOPe is striving for a social liberal female rino, to have a female face and voice as a counter to the Palin/Reagan female face of Grizzly Mamas.

They want to shape this new growth of female GOP candidates to make sure that they are female versions of the male rinos.


7 posted on 07/19/2013 11:49:01 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Santorum appeared on CBS and pronounced George Zimmerman guilty of murder, first degree. March-2012)
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To: cotton1706

There are six senators up for re-election with a worse record...and is that rating a lifetime rating or a “what have you done lately?” one?

My point is that this guy is right much, much more than he is wrong—even by the reckoning of your link, it is 3/4...I’ll take it and hope Liz, if she gets her mind right on the social issues, replaces a DEMOCRAT senator. :)


8 posted on 07/19/2013 11:54:56 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: mountn man
>> What good is a strong foreign policy, if your nation collapses from within? <<


Yep, civilization will collapse, but at least we won't have an internet tax!! Plus the New York Times tells me that Enzi talked to Ted Kennedy once about 10 years ago, so that makes him a RINO!!! Wooooo hooo go Liz Cheney!!

9 posted on 07/19/2013 11:58:44 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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To: SoFloFreeper

PR polls I am sure.


10 posted on 07/19/2013 12:00:53 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Lifetime ratings are useless. Politicians can vote great when they first get there, then “grow” in office and hide behind a lifetime rating.

All the percentages I used to compile the average were from 2013 or 2012, their most recent votes.

Whether Cheney beats Enzi or some other conservative, he needs to go before he becomes a Ted Stevens, an Arlen Specter, or a Richard Lugar i.e. move even further down the list. Look at Hatch lately, he’s safely reelected and like clockwork, turning left.

Enzi has been a senator for 18 years. Time to go. If the republicans retake the senate, Enzi will be chairman of the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions committee. And Enzi’s an old Kennedy buddy and handmaiden. He’ll thwart any repeal of Obamacare, etc. because he’s a go-along, get-along type.


11 posted on 07/19/2013 12:04:07 PM PDT by cotton1706
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To: BillyBoy

LOL.


12 posted on 07/19/2013 12:25:19 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: cotton1706

okay then.


13 posted on 07/19/2013 12:26:07 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Liz supports homosexual marriage.

I will not support her.

Nor, will I support any candidate who believes as she does.


14 posted on 07/19/2013 12:29:22 PM PDT by Oak Grove (H)
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To: GeronL

Isn’t Enzi pretty good?


15 posted on 07/19/2013 12:40:14 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

Enzi may not be the greatest conservative in the world, but I don’t think his record warrants a primary challenge from a carpetbagger.


16 posted on 07/19/2013 12:41:45 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SoFloFreeper

I’m disappointed in her for running against Enzi. This was not the decision of a person of integrity.


17 posted on 07/19/2013 12:46:51 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: 9YearLurker

He is very good , but so is Cheney and she is younger, more energy.


18 posted on 07/19/2013 12:47:11 PM PDT by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: cotton1706

If you kick them all out on schedule, they’ll have no incentive or reward to stay conservative.

From all I can tell, Enzi’s one of the most conservative Senators we have. One of the few to still be staunchly illegal immigration and anti-Rubio’s amnesty, a libertarian-leaning Constitutionalist when it comes to stopping government’s intrusion on our rights and privacy such as with the NSA, a low-tax, small goverment type, etc..

Yeah, the Internet tax was a mistake and he was once part of the ‘Gang of Six’ on healthcare, though he always fought Obamacare. I’m not away of too many other blemishes on his record.


19 posted on 07/19/2013 12:50:54 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Big Horn

Younger and more energy? That’s a nothingburger to cover up for Liz being a big neocon who aggressively supports NSA-type intrusions on our rights, she’s really not much of a social conservative at all, she has never said anything against the Rubio amnesty bill that her father staunchly supports, etc..

She grew up in political campaigns, so she knows how to string a few lines of conservative rhetoric together, but not only does she have zero time in office to give us any time to judge, but she has raised a lot of red flags which we should consider before kicking an actual conservative out just so she can have a safe seat.

Had she done the straightforward thing and run for Congress or even Senate in VA, where her purple political positions more closely fit with the purple electorate and she actually has been a long-time resident, then it would have been very easy to support her.

Trying to do what she’s trying to do is, however, very easy for me not to support.


20 posted on 07/19/2013 12:55:23 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: dfwgator

Agreed. Especially by someone who is less conservative, though her rhetoric may be more fiery.


21 posted on 07/19/2013 12:56:36 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Big Horn
>> He is very good , but so is Cheney <<

She's very good for those who support gay activists or suppression of civil liberties.

22 posted on 07/19/2013 12:59:27 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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To: SoFloFreeper; Kaslin; All

I think this article describes Enzi’s problem perfectly. He never fights for conservatism, he’s just a placemarker, and a back bencher at best. Kaslin has a great series of articles about this race that will put it in better perspective. Here is the article, from one of the best conservative blogs around: http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/07/our-second-team/


23 posted on 07/19/2013 1:01:12 PM PDT by Lakeshark (KILL THE BILL! CALL. FAX. WRITE.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Liz is strong on foreign policy but is pro-sodomite "marriage"...

By default, all American politicians are strong on foreign policy simply because we had a military budget that exceeds that of the rest of the world combined. That gives us on-call options nobody else has.

24 posted on 07/19/2013 1:13:52 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: 9YearLurker

“If you kick them all out on schedule, they’ll have no incentive or reward to stay conservative.”

That’s your argument? You have it exactly backwards. They vote conservative around election time then when safely reelected, they go left (see John McCain, Orrin Hatch). The exception to that rule is Richard Lugar, who didn’t really feel the need to vote conservative to try to get reelected. He was from Indiana after all. And he was removed from power. Lindsey Graham is trying to play the same game and is betting that the people of SC will reelect him.

Enzi’s at 75% now. In six years he’ll be in the 60’s if not the 50’s. And agewise, Enzi will be in his 70’s with all the fight gone out of him “sure, Jim, I’ll give you a vote, sounds good to me.” 18 years is long enough. Were I in Wyoming, I would vote for somebody else.


25 posted on 07/19/2013 1:22:56 PM PDT by cotton1706
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To: Oak Grove

There is a reason why she does support Gay marriage


26 posted on 07/19/2013 1:44:50 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: cotton1706

If you’re going to kick them out no matter what they do, you have absolutely no leverage over them.

And your conservatism methodology is flawed. The first, second and third most important conservative votes in the Senate this year were Rubio’s amnesty bill. Pretty much that’s the only thing the Senate has voted on of consequence, and it’s huge.

I’m not certain, but I believe Heritage is the only organization you factored into your conservatism scale that opposed Rubio’s amnesty. That means, not only was Enzi getting dinged for his strong position on illegal immigration, but then you were comparing his record with the records of all the Senate GOPe jellyfish who voted FOR it—they got a boost in their records for an incredibly terrible vote!


27 posted on 07/19/2013 2:21:57 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

I’m not kicking them around no matter what they do, I kick they around for what they have done, or failed to do. It’s called holding politicans accountable and rotation in office. Is Enzi the only man in the state?? Are there not two legislative bodies full of experienced legislators? There is no reason why Enzi alone needs to be sent back except that “we’re used to him” and “he hasn’t been all that bad” or “others have been worse.”

I’ve stopped making excuses for these politicians. A 69 year old, 18 year in the office politican should be replaced with somebody else. I live in MA. Kennedy was senator for forty-seven years here. And Kerry for nearly thirty. These people stay in office too long and don’t retire.

For Mike Enzi it’s time to say, you served us well, but it’s time for somebody else. Somebody younger, who’s not afraid to do battle with the socialists. And we don’t need you to hang around just to be Mr. Chariman again.

Heritage was one of four. Freedomworks is also against Amnesty. And the other two were all 2012 votes, when there were no immigration votes. Enzi rated highly (92% on ACU) on only one of them, and that raised his overall percentage. So in reality his rating is in the low 70’s and of course with longevity, that just trends downward. Go check the questions on the ratings if your curious, but the average shows he hasn’t been voting too well when he’s not in the top twenty senators in a caucus that has only 45 or 47 people, depending on the year.

I don’t understand why people always defend these politicians, just because they’re already in the seat. It’s Wyoming. An easy republican seat. Nominate a young, strong conservative, just as Texas and Utah did. No democrat would stand a chance.


28 posted on 07/19/2013 2:58:55 PM PDT by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

Hey, if WY has a stronger, young, better conservative ready to take Enzi on, I’m all for it.

But Liz Cheney, I’m quite certain, ain’t it.

She should have run in VA rather than carpetbagging up to WY.


29 posted on 07/19/2013 3:12:05 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Kaslin
>> There is a reason why she does support Gay marriage <<

Same reason Rob Portman does. Neither of 'em belong in the Senate.

30 posted on 07/19/2013 4:55:55 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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To: SoFloFreeper

lets look in a couple of months...


31 posted on 07/19/2013 5:06:50 PM PDT by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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