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Obama quietly institutes mandatory HIV testing
American Thinker ^ | July 19, 2013 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 07/19/2013 12:31:21 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron

With almost no public notice, President Obama has issued an imperial decree executive order requiring universal HIV testing. Yasmeen Abutaleb of Reuters published a blandly-title dispatch, "Obama orders stepped up effort against U.S. HIV/AIDS epidemic" that takes seven paragraphs before getting to what should be the lead:

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aids; eecutiveorder; hiv; hivtest; hivtesting; homosexualagenda
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Am cross linking this earlier thread from 7-15: Executive Order -- HIV Care Continuum Initiative (FR thread)


1 posted on 07/19/2013 12:31:21 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Stealth acquisition of DNA.


2 posted on 07/19/2013 12:32:03 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
My understanding is EO's are not laws so how is this going to be enforced?

Secondly, Obama can kma and try it.

3 posted on 07/19/2013 12:33:13 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rats vs. GOPe = Same train, different speed.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Collecting personal info, Barack?

F you!


4 posted on 07/19/2013 12:33:30 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (K I L L T H E B I L L !!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yep, my thoughts too.


5 posted on 07/19/2013 12:33:35 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rats vs. GOPe = Same train, different speed.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

gee I am so glad Romney didn’t win. That woulda been really bad.

puke


6 posted on 07/19/2013 12:34:08 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

US govt out of our bodies, anyone?


7 posted on 07/19/2013 12:34:08 PM PDT by sappy (criminaldems)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Executive orders are supposed to be actions to enforce a specific law, not make new ones.

How is this funded? Appropriations have to come from Congress


8 posted on 07/19/2013 12:35:36 PM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I don’t have it and barring a bad blood transfusion am likely not to get it. As a matter of fact if you are not an active homosexual or a black woman who has sex with all the black men on the down-low, the likelihood of getting HIV is close to zero.


9 posted on 07/19/2013 12:36:08 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: LucyT; Travis McGee; Jack Black; mojitojoe; little jeremiah

Thoughts?


10 posted on 07/19/2013 12:36:33 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rats vs. GOPe = Same train, different speed.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Most people who go to a doctor get blood drawn at some point. The Hussein Deathcare Law will merely REQUIRE all laboratories to use a portion of that blood to test for the AIDS and report the result to Herr Sebelius.

I don’t think most people will ever, ever know.


11 posted on 07/19/2013 12:36:46 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Mr. K
Executive orders are supposed to be actions to enforce a specific law, not make new ones.

Bammie thinks he can rule by decree, he could have been Traygone donchaknow...

12 posted on 07/19/2013 12:37:57 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rats vs. GOPe = Same train, different speed.)
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To: Mr. K

Nothing to see here. It’s a tax you know.


13 posted on 07/19/2013 12:38:17 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

My very first thought.

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14 posted on 07/19/2013 12:38:28 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Mr. K
Appropriations have had to come from Congress.

Have is old school, we new school now...

15 posted on 07/19/2013 12:38:29 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Stealth DNA no doubt.

The will do it at any blood draw for even routine testing.


16 posted on 07/19/2013 12:39:09 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I wonder how the BLT Sammich crowd is going to react to this?


17 posted on 07/19/2013 12:41:56 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: SoFloFreeper
I don’t think most people will ever, ever know.

And if this a clandestine way to collect DNA for their new Data center, I wonder if it would hold legal muster in a criminal investigation when used against you?

On second though, since NSA has something on just about everybody, I guess the Tyrants to force judges (while we still have them) into ruling anyway they want them to.

18 posted on 07/19/2013 12:42:15 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rats vs. GOPe = Same train, different speed.)
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To: driftdiver

Yea, I know. I hope everyone that stayed home is satisfied.


19 posted on 07/19/2013 12:42:27 PM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron; LucyT; Travis McGee; Jack Black; mojitojoe; little jeremiah

Come to think of it, Obama might indeed be a good one to test for HIV, being high risk, POTUS, and all....


20 posted on 07/19/2013 12:43:43 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (K I L L T H E B I L L !!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Ooops, to = could.


21 posted on 07/19/2013 12:43:46 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rats vs. GOPe = Same train, different speed.)
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To: Jim from C-Town

I know nurses who work in hospitals. They tell me the chance of a straight male contracting HIV are near 0. doctors know this too, but it is not politically correct to suggest that we are not all at risk.

The exception is blood transfusion or needle injection (drug use especially)

Women on the other hand can catch it in a number of ways- it all deponds ONLY on who receives body fluid from another person.


22 posted on 07/19/2013 12:44:53 PM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I wonder how the money flows on this one. I wonder who makes a profit.


23 posted on 07/19/2013 12:46:04 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

meanwhile tax funded Planned Parenthood encourages HIV infected yutes to have rampant unprotected sx without telling their partners their HIV status - PP says its their right


24 posted on 07/19/2013 12:46:49 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: tet68

What amazed me more than the idiocy of that statment (”she old,... we new skoo”) was that THE AUDIENCE APPLAUDED~!!


25 posted on 07/19/2013 12:46:49 PM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: newnhdad

Oh they will pat themselves on the back and justify it.


26 posted on 07/19/2013 12:47:30 PM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
The Reuters paragraph referred to is this one:
The new order follows recommendations this year from the U.S. Preventive Service Task Force that all 15 to 65 year olds be screened for HIV infection, something that will be covered under Obama's signature heath reform, the Affordable Care Act. …
So the recommendation is now an order.
27 posted on 07/19/2013 12:49:46 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I wish he was.


28 posted on 07/19/2013 12:50:33 PM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Everyone has AIDS
AIDS, AIDS, AIDS
AIDS, AIDS, AIDS, AIDS, AIDS, AIDS
Everyone has AIDS

And so this is the end of our story
And everyone is dead from AIDS
It took from me my best friend
My only true pal, my only bright star
(He died of AIDS)

Well I’m gonna march on Washington
Lead the fight and charge the brigades
There’s a hero inside of all of us
I’ll make them see everyone has AIDS

My father
(AIDS)
My sister
(AIDS)
My uncle and my cousin and her best friend
(AIDS, AIDS, AIDS)
The gays and the straights and the whites and the spades
Everyone has AIDS

My grandma and my dog ‘ol blue
(AIDS, AIDS, AIDS)
The pope has got it and so do you
(AIDS, AIDS, AIDS, AIDS, AIDS)
C’mon everybody we got quilting to do
(AIDS, AIDS, AIDS, AIDS, AIDS)
We gotta break down these barricades, everyone has

AIDS, AIDS, AIDS
AIDS, AIDS, AIDS
AIDS, AIDS, AIDS


29 posted on 07/19/2013 12:50:52 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Absolutely unconstitutional and tyrannical and vile, just like everything he and his handlers do.


30 posted on 07/19/2013 12:51:16 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Most people who go to a doctor get blood drawn at some point. The Hussein Deathcare Law will merely REQUIRE all laboratories to use a portion of that blood to test for the AIDS and report the result to Herr Sebelius.

No, he'll set up an obama-lab (or a few across the country) and require all other labs to send an actual specimen to the obamalab. For DNA testing purposes.

31 posted on 07/19/2013 12:51:29 PM PDT by Nita Nupress ( Use your mind, not your emotions. Refuse to be manipulated by Marxists!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

On second though, since NSA has something on just about everybody, I guess the Tyrants to force judges (while we still have them) into ruling anyway they want them to.


Yup.


32 posted on 07/19/2013 12:52:10 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: GraceG
I wonder how the BLT Sammich crowd is going to react to this?

Yikes Grace, I love BLT's! Now the LGBTQ party is more likely the "sammich" crowd, if'n you know what I mean....{8>)

33 posted on 07/19/2013 12:52:34 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rats vs. GOPe = Same train, different speed.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
To be completely accurate, his imperial order "recommended" that HIV testing be done on all adults and children down to 15. But, as we know, "recommendations" are to be understood as orders by his royal subjects.

I'm due for my physical soon and will learn from my doctor the truth of this edict.

34 posted on 07/19/2013 12:53:23 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

obamacan kiss my ass


35 posted on 07/19/2013 12:53:30 PM PDT by sport
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Since when does the president have the right to require everyone to be tested?

He doesn’t.

Executive orders only apply to the executive branch of the federal government and are only to direct how a specific law is to be implemented.

The congress can over ride an executive order by a joint resolution but our congress is useless in this regard. They could never agree to do something so useful. The Democrat will never do anything to embarrass one of their own.

The whole reason we have the Imperial Presidency today is because Congresses for decades have failed to slap back presidents who used EO’s to usurp powers they do not have.

36 posted on 07/19/2013 12:57:54 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Oh....they’re short of funds in the Democrat party.
“See! We’ll get even with those breeders for you! Give us some money, precious! “


37 posted on 07/19/2013 12:57:59 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: dfwgator

My father
(AIDS)
My sister
(AIDS)
My uncle and my cousin and her best friend
(AIDS, AIDS, AIDS)
The gays and the straights and the whites and the spades
Everyone has AIDS

__________________________________________________________

LOL...that reminds me of an old joke:

Guy sitting talking to his doctor says “doc, I think I’m a homo”

Doctor “why would you think that”?

Guy, “well, my daddy, he’s a homo, my grandfather uncle and brother are homos....even my cousin is a homo”

Doctor “wow, doesn’t anyone in your family like women (cleaned up version)

Guy “yeah, my sister”!


38 posted on 07/19/2013 12:59:31 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rats vs. GOPe = Same train, different speed.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I have several aides. My fav is Jennifer.

Oops, wrong kind of aid.


39 posted on 07/19/2013 1:00:37 PM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

This is actually good news.

ObamaCare® has extant to it’s initiaves preventative care and cost\benefit in delivery of medical care.

They’ll tell fat people, smokers and like they’ll need to alter their behavior or GuvCare® will be severly restricted if not outright denied.

So using another man’s annus as a vagina will have to be monitored and precautionary actions taken.

This could even include sequestration of those individual who are carriers of of highly infectious diseases.

Dang it. Had a thought that would illustrate the idiocy of this law but, got derailed somewhere along the line.

Guess that distant whistle i’m hearing is my train going over a cliff.


40 posted on 07/19/2013 1:01:17 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Mr. K

Your insurance will pay for it, because the next time you have blood work, that DNA collection and HIV test will automatically be taken care of with or without your permission.


41 posted on 07/19/2013 1:01:51 PM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: Mr. K

It did seem suspicious when Magic claimed to get it through hetero sex-however frequent.
Was he on the DL?


42 posted on 07/19/2013 1:07:26 PM PDT by stormhill (Guns Save Lives!)
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To: stormhill

Who did Magic claim to have sex with that had HIV?

I think there was some speculation about it...


43 posted on 07/19/2013 1:08:12 PM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
As far as I can tell, the executive order contains no requirement that anyone be tested for HIV.
44 posted on 07/19/2013 1:10:41 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: Vendome
Guess that distant whistle i’m hearing is my train going over a cliff.

Ha, good way to put it!

We all know homos are a protected class and their behavior, well it is verboten to criticize let alone think of "common sense" regulations.

45 posted on 07/19/2013 1:10:43 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rats vs. GOPe = Same train, different speed.)
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To: WayneS

True, but history shows that today’s recommendations become tomorrows laws.

I seem to remember the non smoking section “recommendations” too.


46 posted on 07/19/2013 1:13:16 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rats vs. GOPe = Same train, different speed.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Stealth acquisition of DNA.

This government is obsessed with collecting personal information on every aspect of our lives but does nothing constructive with it.

What are they going to do with HIV infected blood samples?

Quarantine the carrier? - No way!

More likely they will start pushing for a law making AIDS a civil rights issue, declaring it illegal to treat AIDS carriers any differently than a healthy, non-infected person.


47 posted on 07/19/2013 1:13:57 PM PDT by Iron Munro (They Old. That's Old School People. We In A New School, Our Generation)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

“My understanding is EO’s are not laws so how is this going to be enforced?”

Actually, they are laws, or have the force of law. They must be overridden by Congress. If the president vetoes the override, then Congress must overcome the President’s veto. If they can’t, then the EO stands as law.

OE’s were intended as emergency measures when it might take Congress a month to reassemble and act. They were never intended the way they have been used by Obama. To my knowledge, no president, other than Clinton(who still used them sparsely by comparison), has used them to the extent that Obama has.

It is probably time to remove this power from the president, or set a time limit for Congress to Okay the OE.


48 posted on 07/19/2013 1:17:08 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Mr. K

At the time of his retirement, Magic claimed to have slept with thousands of women; this was purported to have been the source of his HIV. However, if your nurse acquaintance is accurate, he may have left out some crucial info.


49 posted on 07/19/2013 1:18:45 PM PDT by stormhill (Guns Save Lives!)
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To: Gen.Blather

Thanks...I guess I should study up on it a bit more.


50 posted on 07/19/2013 1:22:19 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rats vs. GOPe = Same train, different speed.)
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