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Should Hamtramck Erect A 12-Foot Wall To Keep Out Detroiters?
detroit.cbslocal.com ^ | 7-19-13 | CBS Detroit

Posted on 07/19/2013 4:20:03 PM PDT by dynachrome

DETROIT (WWJ) – Prosperous suburbs surrounding Detroit — and even the struggling enclaves within — are working to distance themselves from a city in financial ruin.

In Hamtramck, one City Council candidate is taking that idea to the extreme.

Richard Fabiszak has proposed that Hamtramck build a 12 or 14-foot wall around the city, keeping out Detroiters, and requiring state-issued identification to get in.

“That sounds crazy to me,” one Hamtramck resident told WWJ Newsradio 950′s Sandra McNeil. “I never heard of such a thing. That sounds like something you’d see in a movie — some kind of science fiction movie.”

Resident Felicia Coldhoffer agrees.”Wall off the city and you need ID to come in? That’s insane,” she said.

But, is the crime situation Detroit such that plan like this would make sense to protect Hamtramck?

“It’s getting a little rough and tumble, but, I mean, that’s not the way to fix it. Ya know, you build for the bottom up. You don’t wall it off,” Coldhoffer said.

With a population just over 20,000, Hamtramck is surrounded by the city of Detroit — except for a small portion on the west side that borders the similarly surrounded city of Highland Park.

(Excerpt) Read more at detroit.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: crime; detroit; feliciacoldhoffer; hamtramck; highlandpark; michigan; richardfabiszak; sandramcneil; wall
Well, considering the ferals in Detroit.......
1 posted on 07/19/2013 4:20:03 PM PDT by dynachrome
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To: dynachrome

“Escape From New York”...I LIKE it. As long as they just hold the criminals IN...and THAT includes the dem politicians that brought the city down.


3 posted on 07/19/2013 4:24:21 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: dynachrome

Coming to a theater near you later this summer, “Escape from Detroit” starring Sen. Carl Levin as Snake Pliskin, the UAW as the inmates, and the taxpayers as those trying to get out.


4 posted on 07/19/2013 4:25:54 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: dynachrome

12’ may not be tall enough.


5 posted on 07/19/2013 4:27:27 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: dynachrome

Ask Israel. No doubt if someone from “outside” actually tried to build on the miserable Detroit wasteland, it would be called “homesteading” and raised as an issue at the UN.


6 posted on 07/19/2013 4:28:41 PM PDT by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: nascarnation

Perhaps we should wall in ALL these enclaves where Shari’a law is the dominant legal code.

After all, weren’t most of the cities of the Middle East, and a good many cities in Europe, once walled to prevent just such encroachments by their neighbors?


7 posted on 07/19/2013 4:28:57 PM PDT by alloysteel (Unattended children will be given a Red Bull and a free Kazoo. Reminds me of Congress...)
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To: dynachrome
Sounds a bit medieval to me.
8 posted on 07/19/2013 4:30:06 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever
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To: dynachrome

Its not so crazy...look what has happened to the State of Colorado...escapees from New York and other liberal nut job states are destroying Colorado as we speak...If they would have had to have a “pass” to enter, Colorado would not have descended into nut job status.


9 posted on 07/19/2013 4:30:50 PM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance........)
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To: dynachrome
Oh c'mon already ... just burn Detroit and Deabornistan down to the ground and get it over with ...

Sheesh, it's not like the property's worth anything........

10 posted on 07/19/2013 4:30:52 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Mortrey

I’m thinking more along the lines of “The Walking Dead” graphic novels. Gotta keep those zombies out.


11 posted on 07/19/2013 4:31:50 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: stars & stripes forever

Medieval would be an improvement over Detroit.


12 posted on 07/19/2013 4:35:04 PM PDT by sphinx
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To: dynachrome

Clodhopper just proved that a wall would be meaningless because some self-loathing leftist would just leave the back door ajar and let the ferals pour in.


13 posted on 07/19/2013 4:36:16 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: dynachrome
Per the earlier Looking Spoon thread, Hamtramck needs to put up a lead shield to protect them from the only urban renewal that will fix Detroit.


14 posted on 07/19/2013 4:37:19 PM PDT by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

More like “Zombieland”, mebbe.


15 posted on 07/19/2013 4:37:22 PM PDT by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: AZLiberty

That’s terrific!


16 posted on 07/19/2013 4:40:41 PM PDT by GeorgeTex (Obama-Four M President (Mendacious Manchurian Muslim Marxist))
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To: dynachrome

A wall like that worked in Ušti nad Labem in the Czech Republic, so it may not be such a bad idea.


17 posted on 07/19/2013 4:40:50 PM PDT by rotstan
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To: dynachrome

18 posted on 07/19/2013 4:43:16 PM PDT by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: dynachrome

Muslim enclave alert!!!


19 posted on 07/19/2013 4:44:46 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: stars & stripes forever

Medieval...it is interesting that Hamtramck, MI represents one of the most Islamic communities in the US at about 47% Muslim as indicated in the below article. Half of the City Council may be Muslim. Muslims like to not assimilate and to exist in parallel societies as a base for foraying out on their mission of conversion of surrounding territory to Islamic rule, culture, etc. Muslims would like to isolate themselves from Detroit and surrounding areas and have better control of their cultural territory as it is developed...a security wall is consistent with creation of a primarily exclusive Islamic community in which the non Islamic components are removed as rapidly as possible:

http://muslimmedianetwork.com/mmn/?p=7022


20 posted on 07/19/2013 4:45:48 PM PDT by givemELL (Does Taiwan eet the Criteria to Qualify as an "Overseas Territory of the United States"? by Richar)
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To: dynachrome; newgeezer

Detroiters, think of them as zombies.


21 posted on 07/19/2013 4:46:36 PM PDT by DungeonMaster (Allister Crowley would feel so at home in America today. "World's most average gay")
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To: nascarnation

“Over the past thirty years, a large number of immigrants from the Middle East (especially Yemen) and South Asia (especially Bangladesh) have moved to the city”

Oh, joy. Ain’t “cultural diversity” just a wunnerful thing?

Who in hell thought letting those stone-age cretins into the U.S. was a GOOD idea? Heads on pikes for them!!


22 posted on 07/19/2013 4:47:13 PM PDT by MarineDad (Wherever mosques and JDAM's meet, civilization benefits greatly!)
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To: dynachrome

“Ferals”

Very, VERY well-put.


23 posted on 07/19/2013 4:48:23 PM PDT by MarineDad (Wherever mosques and JDAM's meet, civilization benefits greatly!)
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To: MarineDad

I’ve not been up there in a decade.
So I’ll cede to FReepers with more recent experience.

You might well find that the imported Muzzies are far more desirable neighbors than the long time Motown residents.


24 posted on 07/19/2013 4:50:53 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: dynachrome

12 feet is not enough...go with 20’...


25 posted on 07/19/2013 4:51:58 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (You can't eat Sharia)
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To: nascarnation

I can believe that.


26 posted on 07/19/2013 4:55:33 PM PDT by MarineDad (Wherever mosques and JDAM's meet, civilization benefits greatly!)
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To: dynachrome

All right! South African style pass laws.


27 posted on 07/19/2013 4:56:35 PM PDT by jimfree (In November 2016 my 13 y/o granddaughter will have more quality exec experience than Barack Obama)
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To: givemELL
“a security wall is consistent with creation of a primarily exclusive Islamic community in which the non Islamic components are removed as rapidly as possible”

A shadow government would be the demise of America.

28 posted on 07/19/2013 4:57:43 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever
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To: MarineDad

I was in Flint in 67 when the first racial riots broke out.
It was ugly.


29 posted on 07/19/2013 5:00:04 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: dynachrome
I can understand the need, but I'm not sure that I would want to remain in a place that I perceived to be that dangerous. Still, if the people who live in that community have good jobs, friends and homes that they love, I can understand why they would want to find some way to be able to stay.

It's just a terrible situation for many people who no doubt were born and grew up there.

30 posted on 07/19/2013 5:01:29 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: givemELL

I had heard that Dearborn had by far the most muslims. Is that no longer the case?


31 posted on 07/19/2013 5:04:39 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: nascarnation
Still has the best Polish restaurants and kielbasa selling stores in the country............

As a side note, I play ball with a guy who goes there once a month to stock up on pounds of polish sausage.......

32 posted on 07/19/2013 5:06:33 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: trisham

Dearborn is much larger than Hamtramck (100k vs 22k).
It has more total muzzies but a lower percentage.


33 posted on 07/19/2013 5:09:51 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Yes there are places like that in my hometown of Cleveland.
When I visit, I do so very carefully....


34 posted on 07/19/2013 5:12:06 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: dynachrome

At least in “Zombieland”, you could kill the undead. In real life, they vote for Obama and Carl Levin.


35 posted on 07/19/2013 5:39:11 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: AZLiberty
Speaking of Israel...

Those folks know how to build a WALL!

Imagine that across the Mexico border. Problem solved. So, why not?

36 posted on 07/19/2013 5:43:38 PM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: dynachrome

i’d donate to build an israeli-style wall around the white house and congress, and scotus too.


38 posted on 07/19/2013 5:55:44 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

“Still has the best Polish restaurants...”

I still have a T-shirt from the Polish Festival or whatever it’s called that they have there once a year. Like a big block party with live music, awesome Polish, Middle Eastern and other food booths and a great bar run by some Greek guys I think.

It is (was? - I was there about six years ago) a fantastic event. My brother lived there. It did not seem violent or anything. But Detroit is half ghost-town.

Oh yeah, I think Hamtramck is also known for being the first town in America to have daily public Muslim calls to prayer.


39 posted on 07/19/2013 6:11:54 PM PDT by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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To: dynachrome

Detriot will look like Haiti in 15 years.


40 posted on 07/19/2013 7:11:26 PM PDT by boycott
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To: boycott
Not likely. Haiti still has a lot of people living there. Detroit is just... empty.
41 posted on 07/19/2013 7:26:04 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: dynachrome
That guy is an idiot.

It takes two walls... with a kill zone in between. The fences need to be set up to establish crossing fields of fire.

A 12 foot wall...what a bonehead.

42 posted on 07/19/2013 7:28:47 PM PDT by D Rider
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To: dynachrome

Feral Detroiters have already moved into the pointes.


43 posted on 07/19/2013 7:44:57 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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44 posted on 07/19/2013 8:32:41 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Fiji Hill

Checkpoint Charlie?


45 posted on 07/19/2013 8:36:06 PM PDT by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: dynachrome

Indeed.


46 posted on 07/19/2013 8:38:26 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Fiji Hill

Shows my age.

;)


47 posted on 07/19/2013 8:39:57 PM PDT by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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