Normally I would agree with VP Cheney on more things than I’d disagree. But here... I think Cheney should talk to Jim Sensenbrenner, who, after all, was largely responsible for the writing of the original Patriot Act, and who has repeatedly said the NSA surveillance has gotten way out of hand / beyond what was ever intended.
Relevant article here:
I wonder if the Boston bombers might have been stopped if NSA were not hyper-overloaded with data because of their data collection methods?
>> It wasnt that they couldnt get a warrant, nobody asked for a warrant, Paul added.
No mention of Gorelic’s (sp) wall.
It not terrorism, politics killed 3000 Americans, not agency negligence.
When the Congressional brawls breakout, we’ll know progress is being made. Until then, it’s all kabuki theater.
I really hate seeing infighting like this between decent guys. No wonder the punk POTUS has us on the run.
Rand is right, when do you see anyone in the Government actually pay a price for failure?
Could Bush have been better prepared? Maybe.
Was our intelligence community in shambles? Yes. Why?
Not because of Dubya, but becasue of the previous eight years of neglect, mismanagement, and double-minded hand wringing. Clinton and the Leftists brought on 9/11 because, as always, the Left's lack of purpose and conviction emboldened our enemies.
In usual Leftist fashion, Clinton failed to act in our defense when action was called for. Multiple times when the U.S. was attacked by al-Qaeda Clinton instead did nothing, sending out a message of weakness. Clinton DID act however, also in Leftist fashion, to weaken our own defenses by crippling our intelligence community and putting artificial barriers to prevent communication between the FBI and the CIA.
The story of 9/11 was a story of CLINTON's utter failure of intelligence and proper response to threats and attacks. Al-Qaeda just didn't realize that the new guy in the WH wasn't going to not do anything. Bush's unequivocal and swift response took al-Qaeda by complete surprise.
Having said that, I like Paul Rand's forthrightness - and he seems much more balanced when it comes to defense and foreign policy than his dad, who came across as a loony tune about this stuff.
Dick Cheney to the people of the US, " We have to bug your granny's phone, your daughter's phone, your phone and your wife's phone...just in case you might be a terrorist. Then, and only then, we will allow you to blow up Boston at your discretion."
Dick Cheney is a good guy, but the government has violated the trust of the people way too many times, and it looks hell-bent taking it a few steps further. I DO NOT AND WILL NOT PLACE MY FULL TRUST IN THE GOVERNMENT!!!!!
Oh and Congress has NEVER written an unconstitutional law either. /s
I used to respect you Mr. Cheney. When it comes to dealing with terrorists, the Second Amendment militia is the correct strategic direction with which to round those people up and get them out of this country. You just don't get it.
Ted Cruz - 2016.
I'm liking Rand Paul more everyday. Liz Cheney running for that US Senate seat might have a real good unintended consequence. Maybe those in the US Senate and HOR who want to change the Republican Party will give up on compromising with the 'pubs who represent the globalist ptb.
Dick Cheney is wrong.
Go, Rand :D
The expansion of government didn’t just suddenly happen under Obama. It’s been a long battle and small-government conservatism is losing.
nobody was sacked for the manifest incompetence that allowed 9/11 to happen. That is indefensible, regardless of what ill-reasoned crap Rand Paul said about us arming the Afghans. The biggest ever (known) breakdown of our intelligence community happened, and nobody got fired.
I appreciate Dick Cheney’s efforts on behalf of this country, and his willingness to criticize Obama, but he’s never seen a domestic spying program that he didn’t like, and he supports and advocates for gay marriage. His daughter needs to run against a Democrat, instead of against a fairly solid conservative. At least that way we don’t get a -1 on the gay marriage issue if she wins.
Sandy Berger should have been first followed by many others.
Rand Paul is jumping the shark here. He is fully aware of Jamie Gorelick’s role in building the wall between the FBI and the CIA in order to protect Clinton from “China-gate” (and other) scandals. Bush and Cheney had been in office for less than 9 months at the time, and the disinfecting of the White House took more Pine Sol than was available on the planet.
I am rapidly losing respect for the tiny little Rand Paul.
Going after Cheney is not the way to advance yourself with conservatives. And blaming Cheney for 9/11 failures is pathetic.
OK, Rand, you’re down to the minors again in my estimation.
So Rand Paul wants the FBI seizing individuals' computers, when they are not suspected of a crime? That's a switch.