Skip to comments.FAA warns public against shooting guns at drones
Posted on 07/20/2013 3:14:57 AM PDT by OwenKellogg
The FAA released a statement in response to questions about an ordinance under consideration in the tiny farming community of Deer Trail, Colo., that would encourage hunters to shoot down drones. The administration reminded the public that it regulates the nation's airspace, including the airspace over cities and towns.
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Krauthammer on drones :
Im going to go hard left on you here, Im going ACLU. I dont want regulations, I dont want restrictions, I want a ban on this. Drones are instruments of war. The Founders had a great aversion to any instruments of war, the use of the military inside even the United States. It didnt like standing armies, it has all kinds of statutes of using the army in the country.
A drone is a high-tech version of an old army and a musket. It ought to be used in Somalia to hunt bad guys but not in America. I dont want to see it hovering over anybodys home. Yes, you can say we have satellites, weve got Google Street View and London has a camera on every street corner but thats not an excuse to cave in on everything else and accept a society where youre always under being watched by the government. This is not what we want.
I would say that you ban it under all circumstances and I would predict, Im not encouraging, but I an predicting that the first guy who uses a Second Amendment weapon to bring a drone down thats been hovering over his house is going to be a folk hero in this country.
Americans warn against flying drones over US.
He is right, the programming in the drone autonomous system is inherently militaristic, much like a soldier is programmed.
Just a wild guess here, but I predict the first CONUS civilian use of a drone in an aggressive manner will be to shoot a homeowner’s dog.
Soon thereafter, the drone will release a statement through the controlling agency public information officer, “I was afraid for my life.”
The question is whether the correct address was programmed into the drone, and whether or not the dog was “licensed.”
Fine. We'll use lasers and EMP devices.
What’s a drone? I thought it was a duck!
The administration reminded the public that it regulates the nation’s airspace, including the airspace over cities and towns.
Then they regulate the airspace over my house? And I can have no presumption of privacy?
We’re a half a step away from a “pre-crime” police state.
And, yes, your dogs are monitored through meta-data.
Obama and Holder promise only to use them
to murder dissidents against their treason.
Soon thereafter, the drone will release a statement through the controlling agency public information officer, I was afraid for my life.
"When Pigs Fly!" :-)
That phrase is about to take on a whole new meaning.
“Drones are instruments of war. The Founders had a great aversion to any instruments of war, the use of the military inside even the United States. It didnt like standing armies”
I’m going to disagree with the choice of words. I don’t think the Founders had an aversion to instruments of war at all. In fact IMHO they knew and respected instruments of war as the means available to the People, of protecting themselves from government overreach. They felt so strongly about it that they enumerated the individual right to own and possess instruments of war in the second amendment to the Constitution and said that right “shall not be infringed”.
...and I will sing my eternal song of subtle infringement that has been ongoing in this country since gun control for the children and the people has been front and center as a political issue. The first really egregious infringement was the NFA of 1934 followed by the 1968 gun bill and then the 1986 gun bill that essentially disarmed the American people of frontline small arms and placed the standing army at a supreme advantage over “the people”. The very thing the Founders were most concerned with.
...and in closing for you NRA proponents, the organization that not only stood by while all this was going on but assisted the infringement if not by their lack of doing then by their active participation.
Anything under “navigable airspace” belongs to the property owner, except where ceeded or needed for safe landing and takeoff.
Sorry FAA, but if a drone is under 500 feet, it is fair game.
I also predict that if someone comes forward claiming to have a drone shoot down the feds will come down on them like schumer on a TV camera.
I could see the art of amateur rocketry being advanced here. That and RC planes.
Shoot. Shovel. Shut up.
Or something more subtle.
I m warning the United States Government against firing a gun from a drone at Americans!
I can’t think of a quicker way to start a civil war in this great Nation than for the government to shoot and kill an American in his or her house on his or her private land by an over zealous “racist” Attorney General!! The government won’t have enough man power, resources, or strategic for knowledge to prevent what would happen all across this Country, in every Town, Village, dirt road, behind every rock, tree, hillside, highway sign, culvert. This socialist administration has no idea the shit storm that would erupt!
Our chocolate lab is well loved and if anyone shoots her, they may as well start shooting the rest of the family, because this family will shoot back to defend her!!!!
May I correct you just a little?
Shoot, retrieve, shut the hell up!
> Obama and Holder promise only to use them
to murder dissidents against their treason.
0 has a bad track record on keeping promises and a lot of his outspoken critics seem to develop fatal health problems, car wrecks, and/or meet tragic endings.
With the photographic capabilities of drones I don’t see them flying low enough for most of us to have a weapon capable of bringing one down.
Having said that I am all in favor of shooting them down if they are used against Americans in our country.
s bad enough they listen in on my telephone and watch what I buy in the store with their computers, I don’t need them watching me take a leak in my back yard.
As an aside, last month Congress voted to end the war in Afghanistan on Dec 31 2014.
Nope, you don't want to retrieve a drone - you can bet there will be an EPIRB or some similar locator beacon on board.
>>With the photographic capabilities of drones I dont see them flying low enough for most of us to have a weapon capable of bringing one down.<<
I don’t know. How many people are licensed to own machine guns, artillery pieces, tanks, etc? They have to be tired of shooting tin cans and paper targets.
I’m betting someone with a legal Ma Duece could easily bring a drone down.
And to the NSA trolls, FU.
Maybe some of the groups that we’ve given them to around the world would be kind enough to loan them to us...
As I recall, we gave them to the Taliban for use against the Russians.
Hate when that happens. :)
most folks just can’t help but brag, course you are right in that one should just shut up if they do it.
Us to work in 5A910 of the Pentagon in the comm center.
Well named “The Puzzle Palace”.
I saw a flying wing style small plane/drone (the size/scale was very hard to tell) with front twin props fly very low over my property recently but I kind of live on the approach to the local airport.
Amen, we are the people with the power. We say FAA you are forbidden to fly drones over our country, don’t even try.
yeah but there will not be just one, there will be many
How do you measure the altitude from the ground? You can’t. If you “eyeball” it, good luck proving your innocence in court.
Does anyone know of a site with photos of all of the different styles of drones currently known to be used by the government?
I don’t, but I thought about starting a website to monitor drones above the homeland.
Here’s hoping that they become like Canadian Geese in the swamps of North Dakota.
Sitting ducks so to say.
“The FAA warns...” Just who are these anonymous nazi bureaucraps who issue this crap? I’d like to know their names, e-mail addresses and so forth. Justice WILL prevail in the United States.
If were talking about low altitude, a balloon on a nylon string will bring them down...
Whatever happened to property owners owning everything above their land? If a neighbor’s tree grows over your property, it’s your tree to chop down up to the property line.
When drones are outlawed, only outlaws will have drones!
I was in BE685, the Joint Data System Support Center. Not far from the Goal Post and the famous purple water fountain.
I heard it all was flooded up to the Mezzanine level on 9/11.
My last view of the Pentagon, and my favorite:
“””When drones are outlawed, only outlaws will have drones!””””
Isn’t that what we have now?
Deer Trail is sufficiently open space that there exists air that the FAA does not control. Shoot em down and let the feds try to justify why they were there. I would feel threatened by unknown aircraft overhead.....fire at will boys.
Careful you are coming awfully close to suggesting that soldiers should be killed
Typical rangefinders for hunting would suffice, and will be needed to calculate trajectory.
How many bored guys do you think will be out in their workshops on Saturdays drinking a beer and building a little handheld EMP that can turn a drone off? I’m guessing quite a few. :-)
Fine. We’ll use lasers and EMP devices.
A small EMP device or simply broadcasting static on whatever control freq. they use would be best ...
Not below specific altitudes except in approach and take-off corridors. IOW they do NOT control the air space five feet over my roof top. GTH FAA!
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