Skip to comments.‘Madrassas Are Emptying’ for Final US Fighting Season in Afghanistan
Posted on 07/20/2013 7:21:43 AM PDT by kristinn
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Pray for our troops and their families. And pray for a country that would do such a thing to them.
nuke ‘em and leave.
Fly, meet fly paper.
And why wouldn’t they do this. They know the game is over after this in any case. If Obama had honor, he’d call off any more fighting now, before he puts our troops in senseless danger.
The Biblical phrase, “Delivered in the hands of the enemy”, really has been resonating for the last several years.
I don't think so. The Commies, for the most part, had the sense to wait until U.S. troops had gone home lest they provoke a backlash.
The Islamonazis want to kill as many of us as possible before we withdraw and fear no backlash from this sorry excuse of a president.
While the US troops will be at greater risk, they will also have great opportunity. I am glad that the madrassas’ are emptying and that AQ and its affiliates are encouraging every fanatic to converge on AFG. Why, you ask? Because killing them there is and always will be easier and preferable to them living and eventually coming to our and other western nations’ shores.
Just as in IRQ, we will respond with great precision and lethality as masses (albeit not in the sense of WWII or Korea masses) of enemy make themselves available to our targeting and weapon systems. Hoorah!
All this said, I know there will cost, cost of blood and futures of more of our young treasures. That makes me sad.
But a sadder day would be when these (otherwise terminal) criminals would be found on our shores, in our towns and in our streets, with vile intent; hiding behind our sacred liberties.
So, yes; kill them there.
Then leave, with eyes on; and isolate AFG for the social, moral, political and religious crap hole it is and always will be as long as the rule of representative law is absent.
This regional example should make us all think hard about our involvement in our own political process; the rule of man vice law is becoming more and more apparent as we can readily see in the news most everyday. We should never become a nation of political conformists; rather we must always stand for individual and thereby collective liberties.
10-4 ... should have from the start and held onto our Men and Women. The message sent was one of weakness.
Afghanistan has seen Soviets come and go... who would/could have thunk that the US would come, but then go more like the Soviets did?
Our dear leader has no understanding of'Honor'.
Some would equate obligation to party, bit 0 knows that is just for the proles.
Actually the Dems want this to end badly. Then the new rally cry will be, “Remember Afghanistan”, and not Remember Vietnam.
Amen. Burn the opium, salt the fields, and GTFO.
Manly Warrior - well said. Gather the hot heads to the rat bait and kill them there.
“isolate AFG for the social, moral, political and religious crap hole it is”
I haven’t heard anything about the opium trade and industry there since Bush was in the WH.
Manly Warrior - well said. Gather the hot heads to the rat bait and kill them there.
My full agreement but the truth is the politicians want conflict and strife. Is good for the money business.
Will be the battle of ever more till a leader comes to say never more.
>>Is good for the money business.
Conflict, Strife, and Hopelessness have naturally fed the narcotics industry throughout human history.
The Appetite of Tyranny is never far removed fro the Tyranny of the Appetite.
I agree, and for the same reasons. They'll be drunk on "Allah has granted us victory!" nonsense and boastfully, proudly march right into our sights.
Once Obama told his muslim pals the date of our impending and surrender and departure any further loss of American lives became a travesty.
It is a sad thing to say, but this generation of brave men and women will have to learn to live with the dark cloud of betrayal by our government, much as our veterans from the Vietnam era do.
But in this case it might even be worse because we have an absolute traitor as Commander In Chief - a man who has come out of the closet and is clearly supporting the advance of the militant muslims while he engineers the weakening and decline of our country.
May God save us all because our own leaders are now the true enemy of America.
That's what my Infantry PL son told me, and I am scared to death.
He'll be there till September.
Please keep him in you prayers along with the rest of our brave men and women.
Obama has betrayed 12 years of our armed forces' blood and sacrifice so he can hand over Afghanistan to the Taliban which ruled there before the 9//11 attacks.
I doubt we'd ever "win" there, no matter who runs the war.
We'll leave, for whatever reason, and they'll go back to the way they've been living for the last thousand years.
Afghanistan has seen everybody come and go at one time. Nobody ever learns the lesson. After we leave they will go back to killing and raping each other with great abandonment. Its who they are.
I believe this "final push" scenario on the part of the jihadis has been predicted many times by almost any sensible observer, once the prospect of a final US pullout was confirmed.
Won't matter a whit. We can kill a few thousand extra but there will be tens of millions available to take their place. And a year from now, we'll be gone.
Pray for our warrior heroes who have been given ROE-shackles to fight a war.
The father of my grandchildren was deployed to Afghanistan on 05JUL2013 for a year.
Let's go back to 1975, when Saigon fell. Gerald Ford was president. Should Ford be blamed for losing Vietnam? After all, there was talk at the time of using massive B52 strikes to slow down the NVA advance.
But Ford declined. The Congress and the country just didn't have the stomach for it. And Saigon fell.
So did Ford lose Vietnam? Most folks would say no. The blame goes to LBJ. It was LBJ who made the lion's share of bad decisions that led to that disaster.
The same goes with Afghanistan. Obama will probably preside over the fall of Kabul. Or it might happen under is successor.
Either way, the LBJ equivalent for Afghanistan is not Obama. It's Bush. And that's a hard thing to say.
Definitely, but it’ll take the wind out of their sails for a while. Unless we pursue full-on genocide, we’ll never truly be rid of the threat, so we have to take the victories as they come.
LBJ was going to implement a surge in Vietnam, but then gave into political pressure and caved, sending in far fewer men than those in field command thought necessary.
In contrast, President Bush committed to a surge and his successor, President Obama, is the one who decided to send far fewer than those in field command thought necessary - and he was able to do this easily because the press ran interference for him.
Nothing new.Recall the Copperheads
They claim to be pacifist, more like malingers.
I can proudly say 'I served in VN with a pacifist infantryman'! He did all that was ask except chambering a round! He would calmly say that he would NEVER kill or injure, ever.
He walked the walk. Was converted into a cook MOS.
Helicopter on the roof pic coming right up.
[I havent heard anything about the opium trade and industry there since Bush was in the WH.]
Not surprising given the pr tectin it's been given.
opium throughout history
The opium poppy is cultivated in lower Mesopotamia. The Sumerians refer to it as Hul Gil, the joy plant. The Sumerians would soon pass along the plant and its euphoric effects to the Assyrians. The art of poppy-culling would continue from the Assyrians to the Babylonians who in turn would pass their knowledge onto the Egyptians.
In the capital city of Thebes, Egyptians begin cultivation of opium thebaicum,grown in their famous poppy fields.The opium trade flourishes during the reign of Thutmose IV, Akhenaton and King Tutankhamen. The trade route included the Phoenicians and Minoans who move the profitable item across the Mediterranean Sea into Greece, Carthage, and Europe.
On the island of Cyprus, the Peoples of the Sea craft surgical-quality culling knives to harvest opium, which they would cultivate, trade and smoke before the fall of Troy.
c. 460 B.C.
Hippocrates, the father of medicine, dismisses the magical attributes of opium but acknowledges its usefulness as a narcotic and styptic in treating internal diseases, diseases of women and epidemics.
Alexander the Great introduces opium to the people of Persia and India.
Opium thebaicum, from the Egytpian fields at Thebes, is first introduced to China by Arab traders.
Opium disappears for two hundred years from European historical record. Opium had become a taboo subject for those in circles of learning during the Holy Inquisition. In the eyes of the Inquisition, anything from the East was linked to the Devil.
The Portugese, while trading along the East China Sea, initiate the smoking ofopium. The effects were instantaneous as they discovered but it was a practice the Chinese considered barbaric and subversive.
During the height of the Reformation, opium is reintroduced into European medical literature by Paracelsus as laudanum. These black pills or Stones of Immortality were made of opium thebaicum, citrus juice and quintessence of gold and prescribed as painkillers.
Residents of Persia and India begin eating and drinking opium mixtures for recreational use.
Portugese merchants carrying cargoes of Indian opium through Macao direct its trade flow into China.
Ships chartered by Elizabeth I are instructed to purchase the finest Indian opium and transport it back to England.
English apothecary, Thomas Sydenham, introduces Sydenhams Laudanum, a compound of opium, sherry wine and herbs. His pills along with others of the time become popular remedies for numerous ailments.
The Dutch export shipments of Indian opium to China and the islands of Southeast Asia; the Dutch introduce the practice of smoking opium in a tobacco pipe to the Chinese.
Chinese emperor, Yung Cheng, issues an edictprohibiting the smoking of opium and its domestic sale, except under license for use as medicine.
The British East India Company assumes control of Bengal and Bihar, opium-growing districts of India. British shipping dominates the opium trade out of Calcutta to China.
Linnaeus, the father of botany, first classifies the poppy, Papaver somniferum sleep-inducing, in his book Genera Plantarum.
The British East India Companys import of opium to China reaches a staggering two thousand chests of opium per year.
The British East India Company establishes a monopoly on the opium trade. All poppy growers in India were forbidden to sell opium to competitor trading companies.
Chinas emperor, Kia King, bans opium completely, making trade and poppy cultivation illegal.
The British Levant Company purchases nearly half of all of the opium coming out of Smyrna, Turkey strictly for importation to Europe and the United States.
Friedrich Sertuerner of Paderborn, Germany discovers the active ingredient of opium by dissolving it in acid then neutralizing it with ammonia. The result: alkaloidsPrincipium somniferum or morphine.
Physicians believe that opium had finally been perfected and tamed. Morphine is lauded as Gods own medicine for its reliablity, long-lasting effects and safety.
A smuggler from Boston, Massachusetts, Charles Cabot, attempts to purchase opium from the British, then smuggle it into China under the auspices of British smugglers.
American John Cushing, under the employ of his uncles business, James and Thomas H. Perkins Company of Boston, acquires his wealth from smuggling Turkish opium to Canton.
John Jacob Astor of New York City joins the opium smuggling trade. His American Fur Company purchases ten tons of Turkish opium then ships the contraband item to Canton on the Macedonian. Astor would later leave the China opium trade and sell solely to England.
Writer John Keats and other English literary personalities experiment with opium intended for strict recreational usesimply for the high and taken at extended, non-addictive intervals
Thomas De Quincey publishes his autobiographical account of opium addiction, Confessions of an English Opium-eater.
E. Merck & Company of Darmstadt, Germany, begins commercial manufacturing of morphine.
The British dependence on opium for medicinal and recreational use reaches an all time high as 22,000 pounds of opium is imported from Turkey and India.
Jardine-Matheson & Company of London inherit India and its opium from the British East India Company once the mandate to rule and dictate the trade policies of British India are no longer in effect.
Elizabeth Barrett Browning falls under the spell of morphine. This, however, does not impede her ability to write poetical paragraphs.
March 18, 1839
Lin Tse-Hsu, imperial Chinese commissioner in charge of suppressing the opium traffic, orders all foreign traders to surrender their opium. In response, the British send expenditionary warships to the coast of China, beginning The First Opium War.
New Englanders bring 24,000 pounds of opium into the United States. This catches the attention of U.S. Customs which promptly puts a duty fee on the import.
The Chinese are defeated by the British in the First Opium War. Along with paying a large indemnity, Hong Kong is ceded to the British.
Dr. Alexander Wood of Edinburgh discovers a new technique of administering morphine, injection with a syringe. He finds the effects of morphine on his patients instantaneous and three times more potent.
The British arrive in lower Burma, importing large quantities of opium from India and selling it through a government-controlled opium monopoly.
The British and French renew their hostilities against China in the Second Opium War. In the aftermath of the struggle, China is forced to pay another indemnity. The importation of opium is legalized.
Opium production increases along the highlands of Southeast Asia.
English researcher, C.R. Wright first synthesizes heroin, or diacetylmorphine, by boiling morphine over a stove.
In San Francisco, smoking opium in the city limits is banned and is confined to neighboring Chinatowns and their opium dens.
Britain passes the Opium Act with hopes of reducing opium consumption. Under the new regulation, the selling of opium is restricted to registered Chinese opium smokers and Indian opium eaters while the Burmese are strictly prohibited from smoking opium.
The British acquire Burmas northeast region, the Shan state. Production and smuggling of opium along the lower region of Burma thrives despite British efforts to maintain a strict monopoly on the opium trade.
U.S. Congress, in its earliest law-enforcement legislation on narcotics, imposes a tax on opium and morphine.
Tabloids owned by William Randolph Hearst publish stories of white women being seduced by Chinese men and their opium to invoke fear of the Yellow Peril, disguised as an anti-drug campaign.
Heinrich Dreser working for The Bayer Company of Elberfeld, Germany, finds that diluting morphine with acetyls produces a drug without the common morphine side effects.Bayer begins production of diacetylmorphine and coins the name heroin. Heroin would not be introduced commercially for another three years.
The philanthropic Saint James Society in the U.S. mounts a campaign to supply free samples of heroin through the mail to morphine addicts who are trying give up their habits.
Efforts by the British and French to control opium production in Southeast Asia are successful. Nevertheless, this Southeast region, referred to as the Golden Triangle, eventually becomes a major player in the profitable opium trade during the 1940s.
In various medical journals, physicians discuss the side effects of using heroin as a morphine step-down cure. Several physicians would argue that their patients suffered from heroin withdrawal symptoms equal to morphine addiction.
Heroin addiction rises to alarming rates.
U.S. Congress bans opium.
China and England finally enact a treaty restricting the Sino-Indian opium trade.
Several physicians experiment with treatments for heroin addiction. Dr. Alexander Lambert and Charles B. Towns tout their popular cure as the most advanced, effective and compassionate cure for heroin addiction. The cure consisted of a 7 day regimen, which included a five day purge of heroin from the addicts system with doses of belladonna delirium.
U.S. Congress passes the Pure Food and Drug Act requiring contents labeling on patent medicines by pharmaceutical companies. As a result, the availabilty of opiates and opiate consumers significantly declines.
The first federal drug prohibition passes in the U.S. outlawing the imporation of opium. It was passed in preparation for the Shanghai Conference, at which the US presses for legislation aimed at suppressing the sale of opium to China.
February 1, 1909
The International Opium Commission convenes in Shanghai. Heading the U.S. delegation are Dr. Hamilton Wright and Episcopal Bishop Henry Brent. Both would try to convince the international delegation of the immoral and evil effects of opium.
After 150 years of failed attempts to rid the country of opium, the Chinese are finally successful in convincing the British to dismantle the India-China opium trade.
Dec. 17, 1914
The passage of Harrison Narcotics Act which aims to curb drug (especially cocaine but also heroin) abuse and addiction. It requires doctors, pharmacists and others who prescribed narcotics to register and pay a tax.
The U.S. Treasury Departments Narcotics Division (the first federal drug agency) bans all legal narcotics sales. With the prohibition of legal venues to purchase heroin, addicts are forced to buy from illegal street dealers.
In the wake of the first federal ban on opium, a thriving black market opens up in New Yorks Chinatown.
The majority of illegal heroin smuggled into the U.S. comes from China and is refined in Shanghai and Tietsin.
During World War II, opium trade routes are blocked and the flow of opium from India and Persia is cut off. Fearful of losing their opium monopoly, the French encourage Hmong farmers to expand their opium production.
Burma gains its independence from Britain at the end of World War II. Opium cultivation and trade flourishes in the Shan states.
Corsican gangsters dominate the U.S. heroin market through their connection with Mafia drug distributors. After refining the raw Turkish opium in Marseille laboratories, the heroin is made easily available for purchase by junkies on New York City streets.
U.S. efforts to contain the spread of Communism in Asia involves forging alliances with tribes and warlords inhabiting the areas of the Golden Triangle, (an expanse covering Laos, Thailand and Burma), thus providing accessibility and protection along the southeast border of China. In order to maintain their relationship with the warlords while continuing to fund the struggle against communism, the U.S. and France supply the drug warlords and their armies with ammunition, arms and air transport for the production and sale of opium. The result: an explosion in the availability and illegal flow of heroin into the United States and into the hands of drug dealers and addicts.
Burma outlaws opium.
U.S. involvement in Vietnam is blamed for the surge in illegal heroin being smuggled into the States. To aid U.S. allies, the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) sets up a charter airline, Air America, to transport raw opium from Burma and Laos. As well, some of the opium would be transported to Marseille by Corsican gangsters to be refined into heroin and shipped to the U.S via the French connection. The number of heroin addicts in the U.S. reaches an estimated 750,000.
Legendary singer, Janis Joplin, is found dead at Hollywoods Landmark Hotel, a victim of an accidental heroin overdose.
Heroin exportation from Southeast Asias Golden Triangle, controlled by Shan warlord, Khun Sa,becomes a major source for raw opium in the profitable drug trade.
July 1, 1973
President Nixon creates the DEA (Drug Enforcement Administration) under the Justice Dept. to consolidate virtually all federal powers of drug enforcement in a single agency.
Saigon falls. The heroin epidemic subsides. The search for a new source of raw opium yields Mexicos Sierra Madre. Mexican Mud would temporarily replace China White heroin until 1978.
The U.S. and Mexican governments find a means to eliminate the source of raw opiumby spraying poppy fields with Agent Orange. The eradication plan is termed a success as the amount of Mexican Mud in the U.S. drug market declines. In response to the decrease in availability of Mexican Mud, another source of heroin is found in the Golden Crescent areaIran, Afghanistan and Pakistan, creating a dramatic upsurge in the production and trade of illegal heroin.
Comedian John Belushi of Animal House fame, dies of a heroin-cocainespeedball overdose.
Sept. 13, 1984
U.S. State Department officials conclude, after more than a decade of crop substitution programs for Third World growers of marijuana, coca or opium poppies, that the tactic cannot work without eradication of the plants and criminal enforcement. Poor results are reported from eradicationprograms in Burma, Pakistan, Mexico and Peru.
Opium production in Burma increases under the rule of the State Law and Order Restoration Council (SLORC), the Burmese junta regime.
The single largest heroin seizure is made in Bangkok. The U.S. suspects that the 2,400-pound shipment of heroin, en route to New York City, originated from the Golden Triangle region, controlled by drug warlord, Khun Sa.
A U.S. Court indicts Khun Sa, leader of the Shan United Army and reputed drug warlord, on heroin trafficking charges. The U.S. Attorney Generals office charges Khun Sa with importing 3,500 pounds of heroin into New York City over the course of eighteen months, as well as holding him responsible for the source of the heroin seized in Bangkok.
Colombias drug lords are said to be introducing a high-grade form of heroin into the United States.
The Thai army with support from the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) launches its operation to destroy thousands of acres of opium poppies from the fields of the Golden Triangle region.
October 31, 1993
Heroin takes another well-known victim. Twenty-three-year-old actor River Phoenix dies of a heroin-cocaine overdose, the same speedball combination that killed comedian John Belushi.
Efforts to eradicate opium at its source remains unsuccessful. The Clinton Administration orders a shift in policy away from the anti- drug campaigns of previous administrations. Instead the focus includes institution building with the hope that by strengthening democratic governments abroad, [it] will foster law-abiding behavior and promote legitimate economic opportunity.
Kurt Cobain, lead singer of the Seattle-based alternative rock band, Nirvana, dies of heroin-related suicide.
The Golden Triangle region of Southeast Asia is now the leader in opium production, yielding 2,500 tons annually. According to U.S. drug experts, there are new drug trafficking routes from Burma through Laos, to southern China, Cambodia and Vietnam.
Khun Sa, one of Shan states most powerful drug warlords, surrenders to SLORC. The U.S. is suspicious and fears that this agreement between the ruling junta regime and Khun Sa includes a deal allowing the opium king to retain control of his opium trade but in exchange end his 30-year-old revolutionary war against the government.
International drug trafficking organizations, including China, Nigeria, Colombia and Mexico are said to be aggressively marketing heroin in the United States and Europe.
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In a surprise move, redouble our forces and block the escape routes to Pakistan. We can undo Bush’s failure at Tora Bora.
Perhaps someone can write a song called Tora Bora Ding Dong a Whack Bam Boom.
Obama lowered the sea levels in Afghanistan. What did Bush do?
I hear you, and you do make a good point.
But why was an Afghan surge even necessary in 2008? The war should have been over long before then. That's on Bush.
“in what will likely be the final fighting season,,,”
So much wrong, in one statement. Starting with fighting should happen when, where, and how WE decide. We are murdering our soldiers with incompetent leaders.
They've already got their guy in our white house. Not to mention congress and cabinet positions.
It should have been. President Bush was more focused on high-intensity Iraq than low-intensity Afghanistan. That will weigh on his legacy.
What strikes me as especially silly is all the efforts directed toward reducing supply.
And comparatively little done toward reducing demand.
Bush ‘declared victory’ (quit while ahead) and left A’stan, for the most part. But intense pressure to get out of Iraq and go back to fighting the ‘good war’ in A’stan, under impossible ROI, ensured it would become the mess it has.
Unless we are willing to radically change the ROI, we will not eliminate enough madrassa cannon fodder to keep our men there one more day. (Even if we do open up ROI it may not be worth staying one more day.)
We should have left Afghanistan the second Bin Laden assumed room temp.
Yeah, sometimes PBS almost gets their collective cranium extracted from the Southern end of their digestive tract almost far enough for them to see daylight.
>>What strikes me as especially silly
Supply + Demand = What?
Exactly the same reason the Petrocrats fund environmentalist groups, BTW.
He said so. HIS own display proves it LONG, long ago.
“And the Truth will make you FRee”