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Should We Be Optimistic or Pessimistic about the Future of the Second Amendment?
Townhall.com ^ | Daniel J. Mitchell

Posted on 07/20/2013 8:10:03 AM PDT by Kaslin

Fifty years from now (assuming we haven’t suffered a Greek-style fiscal collapse), will we still enjoy our constitutional freedom of private gun ownership?

Sometimes I’m pessimistic about what will happen because politically correct educators are brainwashing our kids. We’ve even gotten to the point where a deaf kid can’t use sign language if his fingers somehow resemble a gun! And if you think that’s bizarre, check out these other horror stories of anti-gun hysteria in government schools.

And even though there’s currently a majority on the Supreme Court in favor of the Second Amendment, it’s only a one-vote margin. That doesn’t give me much comfort, particularly since we’ve seen examples of Justices ignoring their oathwhen subjected to political pressure.

Moreover, it’s difficult to be optimistic when a local government imposes a $1,000 fine on a man who uses an unregistered gun (gasp!) to save a child’s life.

On the other hand, I’m somewhat optimistic because gun owners and defenders of the Constitution have done a remarkable job in expanding and extending our Second Amendment rights at the state level.

For instance, check out this map of concealed-carry laws in the United States. The first thing to notice is that every single state allows citizens to carry, with the only real difference being whether the law is “shall issue” or “may issue.”

Concealed Carry Laws of US

I’m a bit mystified, for what it’s worth, that Alabama has a relatively weak “may issue” law. Do they really want to be in the same anemic category as California?!?

Now let’s look at this map of stand-your-ground laws. The right of self-defense is not as ubiquitous as the right of concealed-carry, but the trend is very positive with more states moving from blue to red over time.

Stand your ground laws US

I’m puzzled why Nebraska and Missouri have weak New York-style laws, but I imagine those colors will change in a couple of years.

By the way, state legislatures are not the only place where we’re making progress. Thanks to scholars such as John Lott, it’s increasingly clear that social science research leans in favor of private gun ownership.

And I challenge anyone to defend gun control after reading this Larry Correia article.

But the biggest sign of progress may be that honest leftists are beginning to acknowledge the benefits of the Second Amendment. If you have squeamish friends and colleagues who favor gun control, show them this article from The Atlantic and this column from the New York Times.

I’m also encouraged by polling data that shows cops overwhelmingly reject the gun control agenda.

So what does all this mean? To be perfectly honest, I’m not sure. It does appear, however, that the political elite is moving in the wrong direction on the Second Amendment and the American people are moving in the right direction.

I don’t know what side will win, but it’s a safe bet that we’ll have some major political battles in the future.

P.S. If you enjoy anti-gun control humor, here are some amusing videos.

And you can find lots of additional anti-gun control humor at this link.

P.P.S. If you outlaw tanks, only outlaws will have tanks.

P.P.P.S. Feel free to add your vote to my poll on the most important reason to defend the Second Amendment.

P.P.P.P.S. Last but not least, here are some serious videos on the folly of gun control



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment

1 posted on 07/20/2013 8:10:03 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
Should We Be Optimistic or Pessimistic about the Future of the Second Amendment?

My right to self defense didn't come from the Constitution. It came from God. The Constitution simply states the government better get out of the way of said right.

2 posted on 07/20/2013 8:16:36 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Kaslin

Thanks for that. Surprising info on some states that you would not expect to have the restrictions that they do. In any case, if you have to shoot someone to protect yourself or another, it’s gonna be a bad day for you. The libs act like people put in that situation get some sort of joy out of it. (I suppose there are a few who would due to the variety of personalities out there) I’m hopefully that our 2nd amendment rights will stand but when I see didiots running down the street wearing placards that say “end white supremacy”, I get a little concerned about what these fools have been taught. (White kids wearing these signs during a support st. travon “rally”. I guess they are guily(?) of white privelege.)


3 posted on 07/20/2013 8:18:06 AM PDT by rktman (Inergalactic background checks? King hussein you're first up.)
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To: Kaslin

We should be optimistic.

I don’t believe the evil party of death wants to die on this particular hill.

Thinking patriotic Americans will make a stand against the socialist tyranny of this evil Obama administration. This is the issue that may very well leave these haters of America and freedom in the dust. However, alongside of these evildoers will be the complicit RINOs that affect and infect this nation thereby abetting their cousins across the aisle.


4 posted on 07/20/2013 8:19:04 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: Kaslin

Very Optimistic.

The Zimmerman Trial outcome along with the lefts/Black run Americas response to the verdict has MANY black/white/brown folks silently thanking God there is a 2nd Amendment.

Too many folks know a punk like Martin and a regular Joe like Zimmerman and they want the right to defend themselves from such violence.


5 posted on 07/20/2013 8:24:50 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Kaslin

It’s not just the Second Amendment we should be pessimistic about. Given the Liberal agenda and the shifting demographics that will put and keep the Liberals in power, we should also be pessimistic about Amendments 1, 4, 9 & 10.


6 posted on 07/20/2013 8:27:26 AM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
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To: Caipirabob; NotYourAverageDhimmi
True, but the 2A is more or less in effect because of the NRA and other groups.

We have general freedom of the press for the same reason. The press can make electoral life very difficult for politicians who wish to repress it.

What about our other rights that do not have civil protectors?

Our God given rights to free exercise of religion, security of our persons, papers and effects, to a grand jury, double jeopardy, taking of private property, the 9th and 10th Amendments . . . have been greatly diminished or practically excised from the constitution because they do not have adequate support.

As James Madison wrote, parchment barriers to oppression offer weak protections.

7 posted on 07/20/2013 8:34:56 AM PDT by Jacquerie (To restore the 10th Amendment, repeal the 17th.)
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To: Kaslin

Good article here:

THE SATURDAY ESSAY
July 19, 2013, 7:09 p.m. ET

Rise of the Warrior Cop

Is it time to reconsider the militarization of American policing?

By
RADLEY BALKO

On Jan. 4 of last year, a local narcotics strike force conducted a raid on the Ogden, Utah, home of Matthew David Stewart at 8:40 p.m. The 12 officers were acting on a tip from Mr. Stewart’s former girlfriend, who said that he was growing marijuana in his basement. Mr. Stewart awoke, naked, to the sound of a battering ram taking down his door. Thinking that he was being invaded by criminals, as he later claimed, he grabbed his 9-millimeter Beretta pistol.
[image] Sean McCabe

The police say that they knocked and identified themselves, though Mr. Stewart and his neighbors said they heard no such announcement. Mr. Stewart fired 31 rounds, the police more than 250. Six of the officers were wounded, and Officer Jared Francom was killed. Mr. Stewart himself was shot twice before he was arrested. He was charged with several crimes, including the murder of Officer Francom.

The police found 16 small marijuana plants in Mr. Stewart’s basement. There was no evidence that Mr. Stewart, a U.S. military veteran with no prior criminal record, was selling marijuana. Mr. Stewart’s father said that his son suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder and may have smoked the marijuana to self-medicate.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323848804578608040780519904.html


8 posted on 07/20/2013 8:42:49 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Kaslin

While we have made great strides lately, I don’t believe the 2A will have a rosy future.

Here’s why: The 2a cannot survive democrat majorities at the state of federal level. Look to CA, NY, etc. The entire nation will over time, become democrat majority rule.


9 posted on 07/20/2013 8:47:09 AM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: Caipirabob

Right to self-defense comes from our Creator - “Certain inalienable rights.’ Molon labe on those.


10 posted on 07/20/2013 8:48:03 AM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: Kaslin

I am very optimistic because I know that I and millions of others will lay our lives down on the line for the Bill of Rights and the left hasn’t the guts or the moral compass to do so.

LLS


11 posted on 07/20/2013 8:54:33 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Kaslin

Like all other rights, the 2nd Amendment is a battleground between those who seek to preserve it and those who seek to erode it. The battle never ends. And complacency with the status quo almost insures there will be erosion.

This means there is no choice but to continue to lobby for gun liberty.

Most of the battles are and will be fought at the level of the individual states. Some future battles include:

States that issue licenses and permits should be encouraged to no longer require them at all, like Arizona, as a cost savings measure, and because there is no advantage to issuing such licenses and permits.

Suggesting that states should create enabling laws to encourage gun and ammunition manufacturers to create guns and ammunition unique to that state, and only for use within that state. While many such guns are purely decorative, the purpose of these laws is to eventually challenge the BATF&E over its authority to regulate *intrastate* commerce in guns and ammunition.

Encourage the states to again sponsor rifle clubs in the schools, and shooting competitions between schools, as well as providing school elective courses in gun safety and maintenance and gun culture.

Encourage the states to create enabling laws so that urban underground public gun ranges can be built in industrial parks. Such ranges could also save municipalities money on police gun qualification, and putting them in industrial parks avoids the NIMBY zoning problems.


12 posted on 07/20/2013 9:01:10 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: LibLieSlayer

“The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his.”
- George S. Patton


13 posted on 07/20/2013 9:05:08 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Kaslin

I am optimistic about the 2nd Amendment because it is the only one of the Bill of Rights that has any firepower to it. You get my drift. It’s the REAL last best hope.

The only thing that guarantees the 1st Amendment, EVEN A LITTLE BIT, is the 2nd.


14 posted on 07/20/2013 9:22:06 AM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great -- until it happens to YOU..)
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To: Kaslin

The 2nd will be irrelevant for its intended purposes just as soon as the feds get their 30,000 airborne drones aloft.

It won’t be so much outlawed though. Just use it and be Zimmermaned. How many of you can afford hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees?


15 posted on 07/20/2013 9:24:05 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Pollster1

Yes but to engage in battle is to understand that you put yourself at risk. I am willing to take that risk for our Constitution. Hello NSA boys!


16 posted on 07/20/2013 9:24:08 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Kaslin

What will preserve the Second Amendment is that there will be armed resistance to any effort to confiscate firearms.


17 posted on 07/20/2013 9:27:13 AM PDT by The Great RJ (construction)
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To: Kaslin

The school system is an active center for anti-gun attitudes. School personnel are terrifying children regarding guns and their individual rights. Once these kids grow to adulthood, they will be so frightened of the consequences of exercising their rights they won’t even look at a picture of a gun and will refuse to say words like “gun”. The message to children is overwhelming and clear—you think about protecting yourself with a gun and you will be a societal outcast and risk abuse.


18 posted on 07/20/2013 9:33:58 AM PDT by iacovatx (Conservatism is the political center--it is not "right" of center)
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To: Kaslin
The Dem/libs have been engaging in a steady push to infringe on our right to keep and bear arms for decades. And this is how it has been working out for them in the last two decades...

And in the last two months... (Nov. 2012 and Dec. 2012)

And it continues...

MOLON LAVE! WE'LL BUY MILLIONS MORE. ;-)

19 posted on 07/20/2013 9:53:28 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: Kaslin

With the shortage of ammo and the sales of guns...I’d be optimistic....providing all those sales were not to the government!


20 posted on 07/20/2013 10:20:02 AM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: Kaslin

They’ll never stop coming after the 2A.


21 posted on 07/20/2013 11:10:54 AM PDT by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: RKBA Democrat

pflr


22 posted on 07/20/2013 11:47:26 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Food, water, guns, ammo, useful skills, cash, and precious metals.)
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To: Kaslin
At the bottom of my about page, where it's been for fifteen years, is this:

No Second Amendment?

KNOW Tyranny!

That's a fact!

23 posted on 07/20/2013 11:59:28 AM PDT by JDoutrider
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