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Monsanto drops GM crop plan in EU
BBC ^ | July 18, 2013

Posted on 07/20/2013 1:07:52 PM PDT by opentalk

Biotechnology giant Monsanto is scrapping plans to win approval to grow new types of genetically modified crops in the European Union.

It says the move is due to the lack of prospects for cultivation in the EU

... It comes just days after the EU began talks with the US on a wide-ranging trade deal, with agriculture likely to be one of the toughest issues.

The company said it would now concentrate on growing its conventional seeds business in Europe.

It will also look to get EU approval to import its genetically modified crop varieties from the US and South America into Europe

(Excerpt) Read more at m.bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: agenda21; anotherleftistagenda; anticapitalists; eu; evironmentalwackos; friendsofearth; gmo; greenpeace; greens; leftpoliticalagenda; luddites; monsanto; nwo; obstacletalks; organicagenda; poolsovereignty; sierraclub; socialists; tradedealdavos; transatlantictalks; useutradedeal

1 posted on 07/20/2013 1:07:52 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

One of the few areas where Europe seems to have found the idea of Liberty to be practical, and which is one of the few areas about Europe the US should emulate.


2 posted on 07/20/2013 1:13:07 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: opentalk

Cool they will soon be importing food from us.


3 posted on 07/20/2013 1:17:45 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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If they aren’t interested in growing the GM crops, why would they be interested in paying to import them?


4 posted on 07/20/2013 1:22:31 PM PDT by Hayride
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To: TEXOKIE

Good for the EU...for once. I despise Monsanto GMO monopolists enforcers
Though I think EU are screwing Monsanto only because it is a US corporation. Same as they recently did Microsoft. Extorted a one billion dollar fine to pay for bloated Brussels salaries


5 posted on 07/20/2013 1:22:42 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: opentalk

Right on, looks like we will be importing food from the EU now.


6 posted on 07/20/2013 1:25:31 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: dennisw

Well said.


7 posted on 07/20/2013 1:26:27 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: dennisw

The EU is smarter than we in this instance,GMO is bad juju and they also ban Bayer and Syngenta. I applaud capitalism but Monsanto is a monopoly, is evil and should be shut down just on general principle, if not for their outright lies, payoffs, bribes and bullsh@t “science”.


8 posted on 07/20/2013 1:28:42 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: acapesket

Isn’t Bayer a German company?


9 posted on 07/20/2013 1:29:15 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: American in Israel

Your buddies from the cancer thread love Monsanto. How did that conversation go? I saw they made posts to me, but I refuse to look at them. Those two, in addition to a few others, are quite nasty individuals.


10 posted on 07/20/2013 1:33:40 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: hedgetrimmer

How so


11 posted on 07/20/2013 1:34:28 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: acapesket; TEXOKIE

Bad juju is right!! GMO crops and Monsanto monopolizing them are very bad on many levels, material and spiritual!!! :)

I am not a farmer but I try to think like one. I grow edibles on my modest property. So I try to walk the walk in my own small way


12 posted on 07/20/2013 1:34:36 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: opentalk

13 posted on 07/20/2013 1:35:02 PM PDT by Daffynition (Stand Your Ground)
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To: goodwithagun

Strange isn’t it. With all the articles about problems with Monsanto’s GMO stuff spreading, it is like they are blind or something.

Hey, if Monsanto goes back to regular seed practices it is a big win, good on um.

But seed engineered for mass production cannot compete with heritage seed that was engineered for taste. That is, if taste is your target. I grow Russian Red Kale, a great 1800’s variety. It tastes better, is bug resistant and grows in the snow. Commercial Kale Grows faster, is tougher for harvesting and does not taste near as good. It also dies when it snows, and you have to buy seed every year. I live in Alaska now, so Russian Red is the winner hands down.

Monsanto is Mass Production, not Quality. It has its place in the market too. It is cheap.

Todd thought I was some greenie cause I did not like Monsanto GMO pollution showing up in heritage seed lines. Accused me of being a anti-capitalist. Try as hard as I could, he just could not/would not let go of that idea.

That is why I did not try to talk to him, it was proven worthless.

And Thanks, that was a rough posting. I really hate it when they start describing you to you when they have never met you. All the world is their own perceptions, reality need not apply.

Scary.


14 posted on 07/20/2013 1:49:32 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: acapesket
could also been motivated to help speed up us/eu trade talks. Which has been described as a pooling of sovereignty
15 posted on 07/20/2013 1:51:12 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: American in Israel

http://www.ionia.org/


16 posted on 07/20/2013 2:03:20 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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EU Official: Pooling Sovereignty, Once "Unthinkable," Now "the Model" thread
17 posted on 07/20/2013 2:14:03 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: Daffynition

Clearly the wildlife can read.


18 posted on 07/20/2013 2:17:06 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Daffynition

I don’t want my corn falling of the cob...


19 posted on 07/20/2013 2:29:26 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: opentalk

IOW, the EU told them to hit the road.


20 posted on 07/20/2013 3:34:16 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: American in Israel

Aacchh...Russian Red Kale....I like it...BUT...it’s like a perennial weed in my garden!


21 posted on 07/20/2013 3:42:24 PM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: goodnesswins

A week I work darn hard to grow here in Alaska! My wife makes a KILLER soup with Italian sausage and kale. Oh man, getting hungry just thinking about it!


22 posted on 07/20/2013 3:53:25 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: American in Israel

er.. weed, not week. sorry


23 posted on 07/20/2013 3:53:53 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Cool they will soon be importing food from us.

Nope, they don't want any gm foods..

24 posted on 07/20/2013 3:54:47 PM PDT by tbpiper
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To: opentalk

Monsanto is a great American company. Proud to say it has fed my family for 30+ years.


25 posted on 07/20/2013 4:01:47 PM PDT by steveyp
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To: dennisw

Very trippy link there. Don’t think that HaShem would fit in well with the community, but boy could I bend their ear on alternative energy and building in Alaska. (total junkie on those subjects these days)

Lived a communal lifestyle in my early days... Don’t think I want to go back. Even a Moshav has too much to say about what color car I get to buy.

Alternative energy in Alaska? biomass and tidal. Alternative building materials would be SCIP construction. They will have real problems with a moving frost line in their hay bale construction. Double vapor barrier one on inside and one on outside the only way it will work.

Due to the extreme weather of Alaska the frost line will penetrate into the bale and cause frost formation and water retention from expiration of the people. When spring comes it releases the water to rot the hay.

Ouch, mold problems.


26 posted on 07/20/2013 4:04:10 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: American in Israel

If you live close by pay them a visit. They have seven lifetimes experience growing Russian kale and have cleared pine forest to grow grains and veg


27 posted on 07/20/2013 4:50:02 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Daffynition

LOL.

You think people who have to bet their livelyhood on corn production would believe that picture?

Place a couple million on that picture being an accurate picture of corn production and everyone will be talking.


28 posted on 07/20/2013 5:10:26 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (When America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: acapesket

Monsanto doesn’t have a monopoly, they just happen to the the biggest player, contributing the most to reducing hunger around the world.

There are dozens, perhaps hundreds of other, lessor known, companies who also provide gmo seeds.

As with fracking, the train left the station years ago. The most the political left can do is to try and slow things down, then claim credit for bursting food bins when they get run over by the inevitable.


29 posted on 07/20/2013 5:17:37 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (When America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: hedgetrimmer; Hayride
Cool they will soon be importing food from us.

They already import a lot of food from us.

As they increase their muzzie population (European population numbers are staganant) they'll need more from elsewhere, including us.

30 posted on 07/20/2013 5:32:43 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (When America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Good reason to grow your own, preserve it and buy fresh, buy local when you can. Monsanto happens to be the biggest player, and Michael Taylor bought Obozo’s FDA.. what happens in GMO villages should be burnt to the ground.
How bout those Honey bees?


31 posted on 07/20/2013 7:22:31 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: acapesket

If you can grow your own, more power to you, you should do that, but that method won’t feed the world. Get back to us when you grow enough to feed another hundred or two hundred people, which is what the American farm worker does.

As far a burning the GMO villages to the ground, you’re in with a very large group. There are a lot of people who would rather have those brown skinned people starve to death than have them eat cheap GMO wheat. That’s what has happened throughout history, until Monsanto came along.

So you won’t be lonely, but I do think you’re throwing in with a very cruel and heartless group.

One of the advantages of living long is that you get to see the same stories come round and round. I remember the attempt at panic during the early 70’s over the immediate pending death of the honeybee. I was younger then, and almost believed it. The story is back again 40 years later.

I don’t believe it now either, and neither should you.


32 posted on 07/20/2013 8:44:41 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (When America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: acapesket

I totally agree. Look what’s happened to organic crops polluted by Monsanto’s GMO seeds, and then Monsanto sues those farmers over patents.


33 posted on 07/21/2013 12:10:00 AM PDT by gattaca ("Empty heads are fond of long titles" Old German Proverb.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

The world has yet to be saved by Monsanto. Last I checked people are still starving to death. Whatever anybody wants to eat is their business, just like eating non-gmos is my business. Giving food, gmo or otherwise, to impoverished nations is keeping them impoverished. Until we cut them off, just like we need to cut off our own welfare folks, they will never have the desire to overthrow their oppressors and become productive countries with very little starvation. And the American farmer? They are welfare queens as well. Don’t glamorize a group of people that get paid my hard-earned money to keep fallow fields and dump milk down the drain. I’m including my own relatives in this! I’m appalled at all of the tax breaks they get. Any book they get to write off on thier taxes. My aunt has shelves of expensive cross stitch, cooking, holiday entertaining, etc. books and magazines. My mom only orders a couple of these a year because they are upwards of $25 each. What counted cross stitch Christmas stocking pattern books have to do with dairy farming I’ve no idea. This is no different than welfare queens having babies and then filing taxes to claim the child credit. If farmers can be productive on thier own but need gmos to do that then there you go, but let’s get them moving at full capacity before we start talking about American farmers and Monsanto saving the world.


34 posted on 07/21/2013 8:54:53 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: goodwithagun

Woo, you do have a big load you’re carrying over your relatives.

Hope it lightens.


35 posted on 07/21/2013 2:43:43 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (When America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

What load? I notice that can’t refute the info, though. I’m not amused by you’re silliness. I’m a little tired from my garlic harvest today.


36 posted on 07/21/2013 5:42:28 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: goodwithagun

All that stuff you posted can be refuted.

I used to farm, have friends and relatives who still earn their living that way, so I know a bit more about that live, and the facts of it than you do.

The way it looks from your post though, you’re not going to be able to get past the imagined write-offs, welfare, etc of your farmer relatives. I’m not wasting my time trying to.


37 posted on 07/21/2013 7:30:23 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (When America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

get back to all of us when you can prove GMO is “safe”.


38 posted on 07/21/2013 7:50:40 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: acapesket

Doesn’t matter, I could never prove it to your level of satisfaction.


39 posted on 07/21/2013 8:00:54 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (When America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

cannot say that I disagree with that statement. No levels..just renewed health and happiness free from chemically engineered “ca ca”. make your own decisions. Just don’t force us all, we now have a choice..your way.... there is no “highway”.


40 posted on 07/21/2013 8:06:51 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: acapesket

The chemical ‘ca ca’ started long before either if us were born.

By the time the early 60’s rolled around farmers quit keeping any corn back for seed anymore, as it wasn’t economically feasible. Soon the new varieties of soybeans out produced anything a farmer could grow himself. Wheat was next.

‘Natural foods’ haven’t been around for probably a thousand years or more.


41 posted on 07/21/2013 8:30:51 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (When America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

No kidding! We eat none of the above for that reason.


42 posted on 07/22/2013 7:07:14 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: acapesket

No corn, no soybean, no wheat? Pray tell, what do you eat?


43 posted on 07/22/2013 7:36:36 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (When America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Organic veggies, grass fed beef and chicken, local corn it’s not that tough. Carbs suck, real food is more expensive, but worth it. No sugar, no HFCS..


44 posted on 07/22/2013 7:53:14 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: opentalk
Count us as another family that tries to eat organic when we can and attempts to avoid GMO entirely.

We don't have much of a yard, but we've got a few heirloom tomato plants. They're growing like crazy, making plenty of blooms... and yet no tomatoes. No idea why...

In the meantime, we eat organic tomatoes. The taste difference is unbelievable when compared to hybrids. Even store-bought organic spaghetti sauce is so much better.

45 posted on 07/22/2013 7:55:32 PM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: acapesket

OK. While I think you’re a little nuts, I also say good for you, walking the walk and all.


46 posted on 07/22/2013 7:57:28 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (When America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

I am a lot nuts! Just ask my doctors who tried to drug me into oblivion five years ago when I became ill. Haven’t seen one since, but healthy as a horse... it was all in the diet and moving away from plastics and harmful chemicals... like I said..it’s not that tough, once you figure it out. THAT is the difficult part.


47 posted on 07/22/2013 8:04:08 PM PDT by acapesket
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