Skip to comments.Palestinians say ’67 borders basis for talks
Posted on 07/20/2013 2:12:35 PM PDT by Olog-hai
Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas agreed to resume peace talks with Israel only after U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry gave him a letter guaranteeing that the basis of the negotiations will be Israels pre-1967 borders, two senior Palestinian officials said Saturday.
The officials, both of whom are close to the Palestinian leader and privy to internal discussions, said the U.S. letter also stipulated that both sides are to refrain from taking any steps that would jeopardize the outcome of the talks. Israel is not to issue new tenders for Jewish settlements in the West Bank, while the Palestinians are not to pursue diplomatic action against Israel at any international organizations, the officials said on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to brief the media.
The talks with Kerry were about to collapse, and the letter came as a lifeline in the last minute bargaining, one of the Palestinian officials said.
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There is nothing as crazy as trying something over and over and expecting a different result.
This ploy has been tried before and found unacceptable, but old stupid Vietnam Gigolo Kerry will try it again.
What a freaking idiot.
Shhhhh. Kerry is “playing” Secretary of State. Let him have his fun while the adults are still sleeping. It helps to build his self esteem.
LOL ... skerry to the rescue to make certain the talks fail.
And the Mexicans say that the borders between Arizona & Utah, New Mexico & Colorado, and Oklahoma & Kansas are the basis for negotiations with the USA!!!!
Mr. Kerry is from Austria.
They appear to have a built in antiSemitism.
The Collectivists either don't understand that or don't care or both.
i’m ok with taht as long as they are the december ‘67 borders.
You can thank Obama for this. Another foreign policy triumph for the First Idiot.
The Arabs declared war on Israel, lost bad, and now want Israel to restore them to a pre 1967 status.
LMAO, only in the mind of a total idiot does this make sense.
In saunters Kerry... “Peace is at hand.”
Peace at this price? LOL
Heh, heh! December 1967 borders indeed, I agree!
When these idiots say “1967 borders” what that really means are the 1948 ceasefire lines, divided Jerusalem & everything. Never again, no how, no way Jose.
Kerry is such a worthless jerk.
I think this is a great plan...in solidarity we should pull back to moving off all native american occupied lands..pull off manhatten because I am sure the bead value has increased an we ripped them off...we also should pull back from territory we won from Mexico in that war...
This plan sucks yet liberals keep pushing that border...Heck the borders that Israel has won in 1948 and 1967 anad 1973 are hardly defensible.
Don’t give up the Golan, Mr Bibi...
God takes over in the end an Kerry can go to hell
“...while the Palestinians are not to pursue diplomatic action against Israel at any international organizations...”
How about insisting that Hama stop lobbing bombs into Israel?!
This ploy has been tried before and found unacceptable, but old stupid Vietnam Gigolo Kerry will try it again. What a freaking idiot.
Why insult freaking idiots?
I cannot believe that Israel would be so stupid as to accept any treaty with the 67 borders!!! They would give all the West Bank back to the terrorists and that one small portion of Israel near the top of the country would be like SIX MILES WIDE!!! There is no way to keep the terrorists out. They gave them a launch point from Gaza. Now give them the West Bank and the Golan Heights also?!?!?! Surely the PM cannot be this stupid!!!
You may recognize this, it’s called Square One, or more appropriated, Square Zero. Thanks Olog-hai.
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Hopefully everyone in Israel understands that the if the PLO ever did the 67 borders, it would NOT be their last demand.
Perhaps John F’ing Scarry has forgotten that Israel is a sovereign nation and he has no say over their affairs.
yes, but he was “Only Following Orders”
the bigger issue is that Israel has, or gets, leadership not possessed of a suicide complex
“just say No, Bibi, just say No” (you can learn how, it is only two little letters .... try pronouncing “No” in the mirror tonight, ... N....O.....NO” see, you did it!”
In case anyone has forgotten, the Palestinians will never be happy until all Jews are dead. That’s a basic part of their religion of peace.
Please remind me just one more time why ANY JEW VOTED FOR OBAMA??? I have a number of Jewish friends who are still Obama supporters. Appalling!
This is why Obama picked Kerry.....
Someone...anyone...put kerry in prison for something.
With this kind of friends who needs enemy.:-))
Why doesn’t Israel just say that they will NEVER go back to 1967 borders. That they will NEVER stop building in the so-called occupied territories. If attacked we will respond with a factor of TEN. That the use of tactical nukes is on the table. That there will NEVER be a Palestinian state.
After you accept all of these terms, call us. Until then there will be no peace talks.
Pray for Israel.
Exactly, the pre 67 boarder is a ceasefire line, not a boarder.
Without a boarder, there is nothing to negotiate
Someday this world will get their agreement dividing the land, and when they do, this is what I believe happens:
The division of the land from the June 7th, 1967 (second) restoration of Jerusalem (and Judea and Samaria) is being done by ‘principalities and powers in high places’ (Satan) to hinder/obstruct the specific requirements being met to count Daniels 70 weeks (or 490 years determined on Israel, not the Church)
The gospel is the Jubilee, Jesus accepted it in Isaiah 61, but was rejected by Israel and was cutoff at 62 weeks, not 69 as most conjecture, the 49 years or 7 weeks were accepted, its him, its his work, its what Israel rejected and thats why the angel broke it up, and tells us he was cutoff at “62 weeks” or 434 years, meaning there are still 56 years remaining of the 490 to be completed, a future Jubilee (declared at 49 years and then on Yom Kippur) and then the last week of seven years,
See Daniel 9:24, Gabriel gives two requirements to begin counting days:
1) thy people (Israel restored 1948) and
2) thy holy city(Jerusalem restored 1967)
The restoration is in place, but not the time element, not a jubilee yet,
And its the breaking, and seeking to change these times and seasons we’re told of in Daniel 7 that brings the end, its this event that sets in motion the judgement upon the Earth.
Joel Chapter 3 mentions it occurring specifically after the restoration of Jerusalem and Judah in the latter days, Isaiah 11:11 tells us there is only a second restoration,
I believe this is why Satan is thrown out of Heaven in Revelation 12 (he’s there now accusing the brethren) and its why he seeks to change Gods set times and Laws, and its why Jesus is returning as it says in Isaiah 63:4 “vengeance is in my heart and the year of my redeemed has come
It’s the Jubilee restoration of all things. Peter tells us the heavens must receive him until the time of the restitution of all things, its a Jubilee,
This is not about ancient promises being kept to Israel, its about Jesus being come into the flesh with [these] very promises, fulfilling them in the flesh himself because no man could ever perform them, he did it for us, and the transgressors having to meet the time element for being dispersed from the land and then returned as we’re shown in Ezekiel 37 and many other places, and for the fulness of the Gentiles to be come in (again a time element) its Satan and this world system, the spirit of antichrist at work, trying to obtain legal possession of the Earth using Gods own Laws and Ordinances. In Leviticus were told that walled cities did not go out with the Jubilee release, and now just within the past two decades because of Palestinian homicide bombers, Israel itself has built a wall around all of Judea and Samaria, irony
This is (I suspect) why in Revelation 11:2 that Jerusalem is given over for 42 months. I also believe that Israel has to agree to it, Satan with his Nimrod in the white house or whatever pit he eventually is permitted to lift him up from, they cannot bring it, and the UN cannot decree it as they tried in December of 2012, that is, to undo what God has done in the Earth (flesh), and no manner of force is possible to obtain it without their (Israel) agreeing, and if they would only trust God it could never happen, but at some point they will, voluntarily, for “peace and security”
Its a ‘covenant with death’ and God is going to annul it, see Isaiah 28:18.
At this time the “court sits” and the judgement is set per Daniel Chapter 7, and we’re shown more details in Revelation Chapters 4 and 5. Jesus will take legal possession of the Earth as our kinsman redeemer and legally repossess the land using the Jubilee (and the framework which he gave to Moses as the Law for which he then used to insert himself into the world to make restitution for us all) Its how he reclaims the physical Earth for the Kingdom of God in the resurrected flesh,
Its how and why the end comes when it does.
Jesus came into the world as the Word, he is the Jubilee made flesh, and that covenant which he made in the flesh (not in his Spirit as with the Church) is tied to the physical land as much as to the people, and this is why Satan has to destroy those requirements (and Israel as a restored people who can call for its completion) from reaching their conclusion under the Law with the fullness of time for both the Gentiles and the 490 years for Israel to become complete,
I wonder how Egypt will feel about doing 1967 all over again.
There are many liberal Jews that do not care about the state of Israel. Many more liberal Jews buy the “land for peace” propaganda hook, line and sinker; they actually believe that giving the “Palestinians” their own state means that the Jewish state of Israel will be allowed to “coexist” in peace.
Ever heard the leftist propaganda that claims that “fundamentalist” Christians want to actually bring about the Apocalypse by causing WWIII in Israel so that all the Jews can be exterminated thereand that is the only reason Christians support Israel? (There are several websites that broadcast this lie.)
The most pro-Israel people I know are Christians. And not because we want Israel destroyed. I hope the Lib Jews haven’t sealed Israel’s fate.
YOU CANNOT NEGOTIATE WITH TERRORISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They will seize Israel one bite at a time if that is all Israel is willing to give them. In exchange, Israel will only get more bloodshed, heartache and tragedy.