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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 21 July 2013
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 21 July 2013 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 07/21/2013 5:15:20 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/07/18/Politico-trashes-this-town-author-mark-leibovich

Article on the book written by Wallace’s final guest, Mark Leibovich. Apparently he does to Politico and Politico readers what Politico does to non-”mainstreamers.”


51 posted on 07/21/2013 7:02:00 AM PDT by maica (Welcome to post-rational America.)
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To: TomGuy
For some reason, Jay Carney indicated bailouts would not be forthcoming. I'd guess, Obeyme must feel it would doom mid-term elections for Dems, so it'll have to wait.

The coming dominoes would certainly present a problem. I don't see an answer, other than a healthy haircut to existing pension plans.

52 posted on 07/21/2013 7:04:01 AM PDT by chiller (NBCNews et al is in the tank and should be embarrassed)
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To: TomGuy

The US Media are completely gone. They all have become part of the propaganda wing of this Administration.


So True. But for this site and some others we would never get the facts regarding what we are facing.

The TV reality show, star wannabe gawkers, only believe what their uniformed friends tell them, or what the MSM passes for “ real news”

Throw in Ellen, The View, etc... and no wonder we are in our current state of decline


53 posted on 07/21/2013 7:05:37 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: LibLieSlayer

“8)hillary will be anointed.”

I received this in my email this morning:

Short Quiz

I bet you miss all of these.

COMMUNISM IS CREEPING IN ONE STEP AT A TIME, EXACTLY AS PLANNED.

Six trivia questions to see how much history you know. Be honest, it’s kinda fun and revealing. If you don’t know the answer make your best guess. Answer all the questions (no cheating) before looking at the answers.

Who said it?
1) “We’re going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.”
A. Karl Marx
B. Adolph Hitler
C. Joseph Stalin
D. None of the above

2) “It’s time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the few, and for the few...... And to replace it with shared responsibility ,,,,,for shared prosperity.”

A. Lenin
B. Mussolini
C. Idi Amin
D. None of the Above

3) “(We) ......can’t just let business as usual go on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people.”

A. Nikita Khrushev
B. Josef Goebbels
C. Boris Yeltsin
D. None of the above

4) “We have to build a political consensus and that requires people to give up a little bit of their own ... in order to create this common ground.”

A. Mao Tse Dung
B. Hugo Chavez
C. Kim Jong Il
D. None of the above

5) “I certainly think the free-market has failed.”

A. Karl Marx
B. Lenin
C. Molotov
D. None of the above

6) “I think it’s time to send a clear message to what has become the most profitable sector in (the) entire economy that they are being watched.”

A. Pinochet
B. Milosevic
C. Saddam Hussein
D. None of the above

Scroll down for answers

Answers:

(1) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/29/2004

(2) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 5/29/2007

(3) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007

(4) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007

(5) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007

(6) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 9/2/2005

Wanna know something scary? She may be the next socialist president if you don’t forward this to everyone that you know.


54 posted on 07/21/2013 7:11:19 AM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: Twotone

Stop calling them socialists or progressives, they are communists. There is nothing progressive going back to 1925 Russia.

We play nice with our language and they call us Teabaggers.

Pray for America to Wake Up


55 posted on 07/21/2013 7:15:45 AM PDT by bray (Coming soon: The Republic of Texas 2022)
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To: patriotspride
They all have become part of the propaganda wing of this Administration.

We should all be mindful of another country and period of world history when the media was not "free" to tell facts as opposed to propaganda.

Hopefully you instantly recognize this very successful media king, but I would say he had nothing as successful as Obeyme has going today in 2013.
56 posted on 07/21/2013 7:17:48 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: rodguy911

No need to be snarky. You raise valid questions.

With almost 50% of the population on G’ment welfare, the question I have - When will “most” of the working population roll over and stop producing?


57 posted on 07/21/2013 7:19:01 AM PDT by DanZ
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To: Alas Babylon!

Thanks for the thread AB. I’m watching The OPEN Championship so I won’t be watching the LSM talking heads. But I’ll be monitoring this thread to stay informed of any stupid comments by the liberals and RINOs.


58 posted on 07/21/2013 7:22:15 AM PDT by freedom1st
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To: Cheerio

Regarding people being fed up with their local Republican representatives.

The Madison Project has a list that rates their Republican reps. based on the “safety” of electoral results.

In my case Rep. John Culberson - a member of the powerful appropriation commitee

Like most members of the Texas delegation, Culberson evinces the image of a solid conservative, but his 2011 record, at least on fiscal issues, showed otherwise. As one of the 12 “Cardinal” members of the Appropriations Committee, Culberson voted against numerous opportunities to cut spending. He voted against the promised $100 billion in cuts in 2011, cutting spending levels to pre-Pelosi era, and eliminating farm and green energy subsidies. While he did vote for some spending cut amendments, he also voted for the Big 3 sins of 2011; the debt ceiling, omnibus, and minibus.

These votes were enough to earn him a -23 index for such a conservative district. It should be noted that he has amassed a pretty strong voting record so far in 2012. If he keeps it up, he may even improve to the hall of fame in 2012.

NO, I will NOT vote for this BIG G’MENT slave master


59 posted on 07/21/2013 7:27:22 AM PDT by DanZ
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To: patriotspride
But for this site and some others we would never get the facts regarding what we are facing.

Well said! Are there any FReepers that can't afford $5 or $10 per month to help us out?

60 posted on 07/21/2013 7:29:57 AM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: DanZ

When will people have enough of the IRS and quit paying taxes? They can’t put everyone in jail.

Pray for America to Wake Up


61 posted on 07/21/2013 7:30:08 AM PDT by bray (Coming soon: The Republic of Texas 2022)
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To: Twotone

I got 100%


62 posted on 07/21/2013 7:35:37 AM PDT by maica (Welcome to post-rational America.)
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To: bray

In my book, Clarion Call, I have the protest come in the form of a massive work stoppage.

With a slew of twists and turns.


63 posted on 07/21/2013 7:35:48 AM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: bray

I wonder how Wesley Snipes feels these days. Recently got out from one of Obama’s BIG HOUSEs for Tax evasion.

Would this classify as black on black crime :) just wondering


64 posted on 07/21/2013 7:40:20 AM PDT by DanZ
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To: Alas Babylon!

With all the discussion about the city going into bankruptcy, I am not hearing anybody explain how the unemployment rate in Detroit is only 18%. Sounds like a statistic of convenience.


65 posted on 07/21/2013 7:40:48 AM PDT by Bernard (The Road To Hell is not paved with good results.)
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To: maica

I thought for sure it was Obama. He’s let slip his leftist nonsense repeatedly. I wasn’t aware of it quite as much from Hillary. Although in my own defense, I try to ignore her as much as possible!


66 posted on 07/21/2013 7:44:17 AM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: Fishtalk

I think I will have time to read it today and see if I can find my character. Are you having fun writing it and is the story forming in your head?

I got a great review from a friend the other day who says he will help me market it when it comes out. He has some very interesting connections. He is a third of the way in and really enjoying it.


67 posted on 07/21/2013 7:46:59 AM PDT by bray (Coming soon: The Republic of Texas 2022)
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To: bray

Bray, have you talked to Mike Dubrasich of Give Us Our Land Back? His group is pushing to have the Feds give the land back to the counties. I haven’t seen much from him lately, but that’s an effort that’s certainly worthwhile.


68 posted on 07/21/2013 7:47:12 AM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: bray

Got lots of people reading it. Oh you are in it Bray.

The story is about an uprising of the American people and how they turn the country around.

Not trying to make best seller. I’m a Blogger and this book is available through my Blog. It’s more meant to be a lesson-teacher than anything.

Some people reading it.....you know me, I sit here and write and write and don’t much care of anybody reads it.


69 posted on 07/21/2013 7:50:42 AM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: chiller

Bailing out detroit would only perpetuate a new round of capitalism,the regime does not want that. Besides the only people left in Detroit are already obabma voters. He does not want to have to buy them again over and over.


70 posted on 07/21/2013 7:51:24 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Twotone

It is interesting the guy who spoke in front of me brought up the counties are supposed to own the land and not the Federal gummit. I came up and hammered it home that a state like Oregon should be the Texas of the west. Our forests are an untapped resource that is like TX not drilling their oil.

We should have full employment with the resources we have. There are around 25,000 square miles of forests being left to rot which need managing.

Pray for America to Wake Up


71 posted on 07/21/2013 7:53:03 AM PDT by bray (Coming soon: The Republic of Texas 2022)
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To: rodguy911

I guess those Economies of scale have limitations. No point in spending your limited resources on people who are already in your pocket


72 posted on 07/21/2013 7:55:10 AM PDT by DanZ
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To: DanZ
The Madison Project
73 posted on 07/21/2013 7:56:13 AM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: bray

Yes, I wrote to our legislators that if they wanted to do something for our economy, they should send a delegation to DC to demand the Feds release our lands. The whole of western America should be working on this.


74 posted on 07/21/2013 7:58:23 AM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: DanZ
Yeah i got it,but the problem is many of us are so frustrated with our inept Republican Party we think the best path is to tell them all to go to hell and start a third party.

Thirty years ago I would have agreed. Not today. we don't have that luxury of time. In another two election cycles we can lose the rest of the country the left has not already destroyed or taken.Zero has created over a thousand EO's that all need to be canceled. Looks like we will need all three branches to get that done alone. And, that's just the tip of the iceberg! We have to wage a better war on rinos, get rid of their sorry asses and put conservatives back in charge in the party and be dam careful who we back in office from now on. That's why I want to know what Liz Cheney's take is on immigration. So far nothing from her on that issue. Bottom line we need to take over the Republican Party not try a third party.

75 posted on 07/21/2013 8:02:14 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Twotone
RE: Question #5) “I certainly think the free-market has failed.”

==

What brilliant {snicker} political leader said this:
[Hint: It was not Hillary Clinton]

[Hint: Link to 2008 article]
76 posted on 07/21/2013 8:04:56 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: DanZ
Exactly, plus if they do detroit what about a whole bunch of other cities ready to do the same thing in this obama economy.......... I just watched the Cruz interview,he should never have agreed to doing a taped interview! They edited it horribly not in his favor(surprise,surprise). He looked bad/indecisive solely due to the editing.
77 posted on 07/21/2013 8:06:48 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: rodguy911

Perhaps the Repub Party is impossible to take over. What does it stand for and what is its ultimate goal? Now may be the perfect time for a third Party which could take Conservatives of both parties and unaffiliated.

Since they insist on losing anyway, what difference would a third party make?


78 posted on 07/21/2013 8:07:11 AM PDT by bray (Coming soon: The Republic of Texas 2022)
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To: bray

Once again trying logic against liberal/commies,better “in your face” its what they understand.
For us its hard to understand how a political party is willing to watch a city go all the way down to nothing rather than the unions give concessions or take a pay cut. The unions are willing to go jobless rather than give concessions! That’s not bargaining that’s ally achbar like the muzzies,going down with the ship in the name of allah! or in a word “stupid.”


79 posted on 07/21/2013 8:13:17 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Fishtalk

Post the link again and when I get back from church I will read some more. I want to see who this Bray character is.


80 posted on 07/21/2013 8:17:31 AM PDT by bray (Coming soon: The Republic of Texas 2022)
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To: Chuck54

clinton broke chris with his bent finger in the face trick... live on fox. chris never recovered. Plus... his dna is hard left mixed other with mental illnesses. The ONLY thing fox has going for it... is it is slightly better than the rest... but only sparingly!


81 posted on 07/21/2013 8:18:59 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: rodguy911
Here ya go!


82 posted on 07/21/2013 8:19:38 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Fishtalk
Also am speaking before the Sussex county session this coming Tuesday, in the Circle, at 10 am. As a result of my radio show there is promised, (but who knows?) a large turnout over this because if an unelected bureaucrat can tear down your fence, dig up your well, demolish your shed, all without you having a single input, a single defense, then forget the national scene. We are slaves on a local level.

Best wishes for every success against these local tyrants. America has become a country of king, lords, and serfs. A political "binary system." "Ones" (the ruling class) and "Zeroes" (us).

83 posted on 07/21/2013 8:19:43 AM PDT by CDB (Time for the "New Media" to write: "All the 'Presidents' Men: the Sequel--Benghazi-Gate)
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To: rodguy911

;-) I just have to find a way to stop all this holding back stuff! :-)


84 posted on 07/21/2013 8:19:43 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: bray

I am praying hard bray and GOD bless you! You are a true Patriot!


85 posted on 07/21/2013 8:20:25 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: bray

I just don’t see the pathway,the map,the funding, how long it takes,and no one seems to have a plan.
I really think we have waited too long.
IF it were 1985 or even 90 I would say go to it. But now things happen at warp speed. In 2006 when we had just run surpluses. Did you or I ever dream we would owe 16 trillion headed to 20 by 2016? It was not even on the horizon. Few ever dreamed this obomination could ever happen.If we get Hillary it could be twice as bad.
I don’t see a viable plan for a third party.And no one has shown me one.
And,once again you are absolutely correct. These people are not socialists. They are hard core commies! We should make no mistake about any of that.


86 posted on 07/21/2013 8:22:27 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Dam I’ll take a dozen X-large!!Just too good!!


87 posted on 07/21/2013 8:23:46 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: DanZ

There are both advantages and disadvantages to considering a 3rd party.

We have heard for over a decade that the best course of action is to take over the GOP from within. How has that worked out? Dole. McCain. Romney. Possibly Bush3.

Recall how Boehner, who just barely escaped losing his speakership, turned on the conservatives and demoted several committee chairpersons.

==

For:

Several potential minor parties already exist. They, however, tend to be ‘family owned’ or limited issues parties. Few ever even win a local election.

George Wallace’s American Party and Ross Perot’s Reform Party were the only two to make much headway in the last 50 years. They were driven, however, by their founders. When those founders basically took a seat, their respective parties fell apart.

Could a ‘real’ conservative party make it? Considering that many ‘blue dog’ Reagan Democrats do not like the leftist direction their party has been going for two dozen years, and considering the conservative Republicans have a similar problem, imagine what might happen if they united.

A ‘real’ conservative party might have a change. Of course, it would have to be wary of the self-interests who would try to insert themselves in it and take over. The unofficial Tea Party groups have experienced that, as did the Reform Party.

==

But, something has to be done or we will end up with more of the same. And that has resulted in racial divide, disastrous unemployment, sluggish economy, etc.

==

The Whigs and early Republicans probably had similar discussions.


88 posted on 07/21/2013 8:24:15 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: onyx
I must see Ted Cruz

Really good interview. Instead of talking "compromise" he talked about NOT compromising conservative views. He said in one clear sentence why a "pathway to citizenship" is a bad idea. He showed humor, intelligence, clarity, and no need to pander.

Not only is he helping his own future, I think he's making it easier for others to embrace constitutional conservatism. He even gave Rubio an opening to repent and save his integrity, I thought.

89 posted on 07/21/2013 8:24:32 AM PDT by grania
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To: LibLieSlayer

LOL,yeah I have the same problem...


90 posted on 07/21/2013 8:25:44 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Bernard

That 18% is probably reflective of the 700,000 who still live in Detroit. The other 1,300,000 moved out a while back, so they are not counted any more.
91 posted on 07/21/2013 8:28:30 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: bray

I completely agree!!


92 posted on 07/21/2013 8:31:44 AM PDT by mtnwmn (Liberalism leads to Socialism)
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To: PaleoBob
If you are correct... the day of the elephant is over... no matter what. If we continue to allow the liberal gop/e to shape the party and the agenda... if they continue to attack US and call US names and ACCUSE US of what they are and do (just like the rats... all alinskied up) we may as well have all dim rule.

I do not see much difference but the minutia around the edges. The only people representing America in government today are the ones that the gop/e and others attack as FAR RIGHT.. Bible Thumpers as we are called... Clinging to our Guns as they say... same as the rats... oh and we are all looking for perfection... ALL lies about us... just like their leftist brethren in the rat party. rat or rino... both lead to the end of America as we know it. I'd rather fight evil in both parties and go down with my boots on than to just bow at their alter. My knees bend for JESUS only... I also love my republic MORE than I love myself. I am NOT alone... not even on this thread. There are others like me that have become enlightened and the gop/e shell game no longer works on us.

It isn't like we aren't giving the gop/e another last chance... the only difference... there are enough of us that if they screw us again... it will be their last chance. FREEDOM PARTY BABY! The time has not yet come... most of us pray it never does... but it may come and soon.

LLS

93 posted on 07/21/2013 8:32:20 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: TomGuy

I don’t think tour hopes for a third pary would be so much with disgruntled dems,most of them left and are now with us or npsa(no party affiliations). But more with the indys, middle of the roaders who are just so pissed off with both parties they became independents. Trouble is they are usually not what you would term “activists.” The pathway to get there is ...well way over my head. I can’t think it through at this late date.


94 posted on 07/21/2013 8:32:29 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: patriotspride; TomGuy
You ain't lyin!

Since I have been posting this thread beginning in 1998, I have seen a steady increase in the partisanship of the mainstream, driveby media. Part of what we do here on this thread is to document the abuse, lies, distortions, omissions, biased guests selection, no follow up questions to those the host favors (democrats/RINOs), grilling of those they disfavor (Conservative Republicans), etc., etc.

I don't know how we can possibly overcome this. It just gets worse over the years. Consider the Zimmerman/Martin case if you want to see media bias in action.

All I can say is considering my screen name, the End Times have to be just around the corner! (Revelation 18: 9And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning, 10Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come).

95 posted on 07/21/2013 8:32:56 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!

Dr. BEN Carson is a great man. He did a good job making the Black Congresscritter look petty and small. He has my respect.


96 posted on 07/21/2013 8:34:00 AM PDT by weston (As far as I'm concerned, it's Christ or nothing!)
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To: Twotone

Didn’t miss it... I know our enemies well. I even know where and from whom the obama campaign (that never stops) got their “Forward” from. Great to see it all posted. Even FReepers need a refresher course from time to time. Dead on!

LLS


97 posted on 07/21/2013 8:34:24 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Eleanor you old crow...


98 posted on 07/21/2013 8:35:01 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: PaleoBob
The whole “take over the Republican Party” or “take back the Republican Party” thing ain’t gonna happen. The blue state big money and the likes of Boner and McChurian hold all the cards.

Yeah right.

And the 53 already existing "third parties" hold none of them.

That's crazy talk and you have no plan.

99 posted on 07/21/2013 8:38:44 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (HEY RATS! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Morty Zuckerman thinks Obamas comments on Travon martin was his “Lincoln Moment” LOL


100 posted on 07/21/2013 8:40:24 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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