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Freedom From Religion Foundation Opposing Star Of David At Holocaust Memorial
Opposing Views ^ | July 19, 2013 | Evan Bleier

Posted on 07/21/2013 10:56:02 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows

An atheist group that is known for targeting supposed violations of the separation between church and state recently protested a Holocaust memorial because the monument plans to feature a Star of David.

The Freedom From Religion Foundation, or FFRF, has stated its opposition to the proposed Ohio Statehouse Holocaust memorial because its leaders believe that including the religious symbol would create "legal precedent."

The co-presidents of the FFRF, Don Barker and Annie Laurie Gaylor, wrote a letter to Richard Finan, chair of the Capitol Square Review and Advisory Board about the proposed memorial, The Blaze reported.

“Permitting one permanent sectarian and exclusionary religious symbol ... would create the legal precedent, for instance, to place an equally large or larger permanent Latin cross on Capitol grounds," they wrote. The group maintains that they have an issue with including the star because it is associated with Judaism but have no problem with a Holocaust museum at the capitol.

“The monument could resemble numerous powerful war memorials across the U.S. which do not use any sectarian images, including the national World War II Memorial, the Vietnam Veterans Memorial and the Korean War Veterans Memorial,” the letter continued. “Each is secular in nature and without religious reference, which offends no one and is respected by all.”

The architect who is involved with the project, Daniel Libeskind, purposefully included the star because he says that “one cannot separate the Holocaust from the star.”

Despite the FFRF’s intense opposition, the design was approved.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Israel; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: annielauriegaylor; antitheism; atheismandstate; atheistspremacists; churchandstate; danbarker; daniellibeskind; donbarker; establishmentclause; ffrf; gaylor; holocaust; israel; libeskind; memorial; napl; ohio; richardfinan; star; starofdavid; theholocaust; thenogodgod; veterans
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To: Pollster1

I’m not ready to start shooting atheists. Too much paperwork, for one thing.

Violence is not the answer to this problem - we, as a society, simply have to start saying “No.”

BTW, the FFRF lost this one. I almost hope they sue.


21 posted on 07/21/2013 11:35:11 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

If they had a badge for atheists like they did for the Jews I wonder what it would have looked like?


22 posted on 07/21/2013 11:36:05 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Slings and Arrows

The FFR should build its own God-hating Secular Humanism Museum.


23 posted on 07/21/2013 11:36:12 AM PDT by windsorknot (>>>)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Not shooting them, but we have to show some backbone instead of simply bowing to their insane demands to keep the peace. They don’t deserve peace, not when they provoke fights over all public displays of religion. Ohio is 1.3% Jewish - a Star of David on a monument does not in any way constitute a state establishment of an official religion and cannot rationally be misinterpreted as such.


24 posted on 07/21/2013 11:38:02 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: dfwgator
If they had a badge for atheists like they did for the Jews I wonder what it would have looked like?

[Yeah, yeah, I know: Godwin's Law. The FFRF had it coming.]

25 posted on 07/21/2013 11:42:14 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Pollster1

These subhumans are insufferable maggots, aren’t they? Their logic circuits have burned-out in what little grey matter they have. I find them offensive to humanity in their continuing attempts to bother other people with their spew.


26 posted on 07/21/2013 11:44:30 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

There is no “freedom from religion” in the Constitution.

Thanks Slings and Arrows.


27 posted on 07/21/2013 11:49:14 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

It’s time some of these people were just politely told to STFU.

Tired of listening to their crying.


28 posted on 07/21/2013 11:58:28 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: cardinal4
"So what does an atheist woman scream out during sex?"

WHAT??? NOT AGAIN!!!

29 posted on 07/21/2013 12:01:09 PM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work, You gotta earn them.)
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To: windsorknot
The FFR should build its own God-hating Secular Humanism Museum.

It's been done.

30 posted on 07/21/2013 12:28:03 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

The words OF and FROM are not interchangeable. There is no freedom FROM religion,only freedom OF religion.


31 posted on 07/21/2013 1:01:07 PM PDT by This I Wonder32460
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To: This I Wonder32460
Freedom from religion is a desire of a loud minority not in any way a constitutional principle.
32 posted on 07/21/2013 1:09:57 PM PDT by Machfour
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To: Slings and Arrows

This is one of those moments when I’d like to see about 10,000 Christians start pushing in a rocking motion on their office building resulting in it be flattened within about ten minutes.

Don’t like God all you like.

Quit telling others what they must think.


33 posted on 07/21/2013 1:36:02 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Zimmerman breaks Martin's nose/pounds his head on concrete? Does Martin's backers support Zimmerman?)
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To: Slings and Arrows

I guess crosses need to be banned. While we’re at it “T” and “t” need to be banned from the alphabet. Power poles, telephone poles, T-shirts, etc, all may make someone uncomfortable. Ban it.


34 posted on 07/21/2013 5:06:51 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

These people need to be shut up. Hard.


35 posted on 07/21/2013 5:23:43 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: cardinal4
So what does an atheist woman scream out during sex?

Probably doesn't scream at all . . . just makes a big bang.

36 posted on 07/21/2013 5:28:03 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (What would Yehoshu`a [Bin Nun] do?)
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To: dfwgator

“Oh ... me !!!”


37 posted on 07/21/2013 8:33:04 PM PDT by Rocky Mountain Wild Turkey ("I have an open mind ... just not so open that my brain falls out onto the floor!!")
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To: Pollster1; Slings and Arrows; oh8eleven; BenLurkin; beelzepug; EternalVigilance; SandRat; ...
Those who suffered, those who died, and those who survived the Holocaust, must have tried, as did Job, to make sense of such a colossal tragedy. In the end, after all the misery he and his family endured, Job remained faithful, saying "God has given. God has taken away. Blessed be God's name."

All of Job's trials were the ideas of Satan, who claimed that if God took away Job's wealth, family, and finally his health, Job would lose his faith, but he did not. FFRF would deny Job's triumph.

War and Remembrance, a miniseries from the book of the same name, showed Jewish scholar Jastrow in the Teresienstadt Ghetto (temporary location until transportation to Auschitz). See the video War and Remembrance Aaron Jastrow Story of Job

39 posted on 07/22/2013 1:33:46 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Wonder how libs like Speilberg feel

He sure showed every angle he could capture of the star of David at Normandy American cemetary in Ryan.

Bet these jackasses would fear demanding this crap from Muzzies


40 posted on 07/22/2013 2:05:31 AM PDT by wardaddy (the next Dark Ages are coming as Western Civilization crumbles with nary a whimper)
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