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Broken Boulevard (what's wrong with this picture?)
Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | 07/21/2013 | staff

Posted on 07/21/2013 2:44:32 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen

A photograph by The Inquirer's Michael Bryant last week revealed most of what one needs to know about Philadelphia's Roosevelt Boulevard. The day after an alleged drag racer killed a woman and three children trying to cross the thoroughfare, it shows another woman clutching a child as she runs through traffic on the same stretch of road. The multilane Boulevard has exacted an inordinate pedestrian death toll for decades, and officials have promised to deal with it for almost as long. But as the photo illustrates, the road continues to encourage recklessness among drivers and pedestrians alike.

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1 posted on 07/21/2013 2:44:32 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen
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To: Albion Wilde; Tribune7; TAdams8591; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; wireman; Mr. Binnacle; brityank; ...
**** Philly Metro Ping ****



2 posted on 07/21/2013 2:45:28 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: Kid Shelleen
The multilane Boulevard has exacted an inordinate pedestrian death toll for decades

Sounds like the kind of nonsense that greedy plaintiff lawyers spout.

3 posted on 07/21/2013 2:46:47 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

I see the problem afer looking at the picture.

That road is racist.


4 posted on 07/21/2013 2:48:53 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Kid Shelleen

I don’t know anything about the area, but why in the photo is the woman not using a crosswalk?


5 posted on 07/21/2013 2:49:53 PM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Whats the matter?

Did this woman avoid using the stoplight and crosswalk a hundred feet down the road because the little guy in the pedestrian signal is white?


6 posted on 07/21/2013 2:51:24 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Kid Shelleen

First of all, she’s not crossing in the crosswalk. Second of all, she’s crossing against the light. Maybe if people paid attention to the traffic laws, fewer people would get run over. Who knows what the situation was the night of the drag race. Presumably, drag racers would not obey traffic lights anyway.


7 posted on 07/21/2013 2:51:30 PM PDT by rabidralph (Gray State Movie)
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To: DonaldC
why in the photo is the woman not using a crosswalk?

We have a winner !!
8 posted on 07/21/2013 2:52:55 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: Kid Shelleen
officials still haven't done enough to ... discourage unsafe crossing, such as with fencing...

I knew it -- the critics claim it is somehow the transportation department's job to protect people from their own stupidity.

9 posted on 07/21/2013 2:53:08 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

My neighbor had his 67 Vette drag/show car out on the street today.

poppity pop pop poppity pop pop pop.


10 posted on 07/21/2013 2:53:58 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: DonaldC

Just like dogs that like to chase cars, they are destined to get run over.


11 posted on 07/21/2013 2:58:07 PM PDT by X-spurt (I'm copywriting creepy ass cracker, send royalties to BR549)
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To: DonaldC

“why in the photo is the woman not using a crosswalk?”

there was an EBT ATM across the street?


12 posted on 07/21/2013 3:00:24 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: cripplecreek

From the article, “The crash took place at North Second Street, where median walkways indicate a crossing despite the absence of traffic signals.”

Confusing. They marked the roadway with a crosswalk, but there are no traffic signals? So a pedestrian may be trying his best by staying in the crosswalk, but an upcoming car doesn’t have a signal or even a sign that there’s a walkway? Sounds like an accident waiting to happen, whether or not people are using the street for a drag strip.


13 posted on 07/21/2013 3:02:16 PM PDT by radiohead
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To: Kid Shelleen

Down there by that light, wouldn’t there be a crosswalk?


14 posted on 07/21/2013 3:05:51 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (I will not comply.)
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To: DonaldC
why in the photo is the woman not using a crosswalk?

Because she has been longing for a Mennella's chicken that crossed the road?

15 posted on 07/21/2013 3:08:25 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Kid Shelleen; DonaldC

Roosevelt Blvd is US Route 1, a very major highway in an urban area. In that area there is a signed crosswalk at 4th Street and another 4-5 blocks or so away at Mascher Street.
At 2d Street or what would about 1st Street there is a concrete paved medium. The folks dash across Route 1 to save walking blocks out of their way. No excuse for the folks but that’s just the way it’s done there. Tough life when living in that area but you takes your chances.


16 posted on 07/21/2013 3:09:56 PM PDT by TaMoDee ( Lassez les bons temps rouler dans les 2013! Geaux, Pack, Geaux!)
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To: radiohead

“The crash took place at North Second Street, where median walkways indicate a crossing despite the absence of traffic signals.”

LOL!

Liberals have been doing this to Blacks since the Civil War.

You don’t need a father to help raise your kids...........

You don’t need to obey the legal law, or even the moral law, go ahead and shoot that bastard who looked at your woman................


17 posted on 07/21/2013 3:10:24 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (When America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: radiohead

Who knows. I think under most state laws, traffic is supposed to yield to pedestrians at an unsignaled crosswalk. Back in Eugene the cops run sting ops at those crosswalks all the time and always write lots of tickets.


18 posted on 07/21/2013 3:11:16 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (I will not comply.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

The Roosyvelt blvd is one piece of bada$$ road. Especially where it breaks into two inner and two outer lanes just south of Bensalem, and goes for miles like that through NE Philly.

And folks in their right mind would NEVER dream of crossing it without the light.

OH, BTW, the lights are only a Philly block apart. Not far.

Pedestrians are the most culpable group here. Especially a certain minority who think that sauntering across the street to watch drivers have to slam on the brakes, is funny.

Driven that road for years. Seen them do it.


19 posted on 07/21/2013 3:13:01 PM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslymz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: Kid Shelleen
When I was a kid my Mom would have told me to avoid crossing Roosevelt Boulevard. I would have obeyed.

Why must this be a government project?

20 posted on 07/21/2013 3:13:01 PM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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To: Kid Shelleen

Going to buy some Skittles.


21 posted on 07/21/2013 3:15:25 PM PDT by right way right (What's it gonna take? (guillotines?))
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To: ConradofMontferrat
Driven that road for years. Seen them do it.

You have to give them credit for the way the lights are controlled. If your a speed racer but stop at lights, you might as well give up and do 40.

22 posted on 07/21/2013 3:21:26 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: Kid Shelleen

Nobody uses crosswalks any more?

Nobody looks both ways before crossing the road any more?

Growing up, while I wasn’t forced to use crosswalks in our neighborhood (all single-family houses, fairly quiet neighborhood), we did use crosswalks anywhere there was significant traffic - and then, only after looking both ways.

Of course, my parents also taught me to look both ways before walking across the traffic in a parking lot, even in front of the store entrance. Now it seems that nobody looks - in parking lots, or in roads. They just go because it is all about THEM.


23 posted on 07/21/2013 3:24:28 PM PDT by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Khusen Akhmedov any relation to Dzhokhar Tsarnaev?


24 posted on 07/21/2013 3:24:48 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: All

People around here do this crap all the time. They walk into moving traffic on busy streets and the “communities” are all surprised when they keep getting flattened. Every few weeks, we hear about a mother, father, son, daughter, aunt or uncle getting tragically run down in the middle of streets streets with crosswalks and lights. They expect the taxpayers to pay for “safer crossings” which they will ignore and cross where they want anyway.
One group, La Raza I think, claimed that it was racist because their people are used to just walking wherever they want so we have to be more careful. We have to be on the lookout for some illegal, possibly drunk, that doesn’t understand English running out in front of moving cars in mid-day traffic because it’s what they do in whatever 3rd world sewer they came from.
When I was a kid and someone get run over because they didn’t follow the rules, they were considered the one’s at fault.

It’s upside down around here.


25 posted on 07/21/2013 3:25:46 PM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

I bet there aren’t nearly as many pedestrians hit in the northeast.


26 posted on 07/21/2013 3:26:33 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: digger48

What I see there is child abuse.

A suicidal woman wanting to take her child out with her.


27 posted on 07/21/2013 3:28:33 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Kid Shelleen

I grew up in the Philadelphia area. (I left in 1971 to go into the Army.) I drove Roosevelt Blvd. for the last time in ‘79. It was a road where drivers tested the road — and each other. It wasn’t a road for wussies.


28 posted on 07/21/2013 3:29:52 PM PDT by Publius
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To: Kid Shelleen

If a white driver hit this woman Jesse and Al would be down there like stink on a skunk.


29 posted on 07/21/2013 3:30:49 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: BenLurkin

Well, the adult pedestrians dying is bad enough; you can blame them to an extent. But, the kids dying, as a result of adult stupidity - driver or pedestrian, is unacceptable.
Why not build a pedestrian bridge with heavy fines or even short jail time for scofflaws who don’t use it?


30 posted on 07/21/2013 3:33:16 PM PDT by BIV (typical white person)
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To: ConradofMontferrat
Pedestrians are the most culpable group here. Especially a certain minority who think that sauntering across the street to watch drivers have to slam on the brakes, is funny.

This is not just a Philly problem. It is a national problem. Here, in California, wherever there is a significant number of that "certain" minority, this is the rule rather than the exception.

The tendency to do that is either genetic or cultural. No other identifiable group use that practice to insist on "respect," by daring motor vehicles to hit them. The sense of entitlement extends to immunity from cultural safety rules that apply to everyone else. To get away with it with impunity simply reinforces (in their minds) their sense of special status.

31 posted on 07/21/2013 3:41:10 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: Stentor

LOL

The sneaky secret is, if you do something like 38.9 mph, you can clear lights like magic.

The “speed racers” just ignore the damn lights. I think that they found if you do about 80 something, its the same timing as the 38.9.

There’s been lots of looky into the timing of those damn lights.

Bottom line, crossing Roosy? Put your effin antenna up and say a prayer.

Pennsylvania, what place!

OH, BTW, in the city of Philly, (and probably the rest of the state) a freakin HORSE HAS RIGHT OF WAY! NO QUESTIONS.

Especially in Amishland.

Local ordinances say otherwise, but I think state law still recognizes the horse as legitimate transport with right of way anywhere it goes.


32 posted on 07/21/2013 3:57:17 PM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslymz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: TheBattman
I know Roosevelt Boulevard very well -- from my professional experience on a project I worked on some years ago.

That road never should have been built that way. And it's disgraceful how many simple fixes could have been implemented over the years but never have been.

Nobody uses crosswalks any more?

One of the problems you have there is that under Pennsylvania law, motorists are required to stop and yield to pedestrians in a marked crosswalk. Roosevelt Boulevard has a number of locations where a crosswalk is painted on the roadway in the middle of a long stretch of road between signalized intersections where sight distances may not be ideal and where motorists can't possibly see pedestrians while they're paying attention to everything else going on around them. Check out a Google aerial view of the area around the Faunce Street intersection. There's no way a crosswalk should be painted across a twelve-lane boulevard like that.

33 posted on 07/21/2013 4:01:35 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: Kid Shelleen

She could try crossing at the light for starters.

Really, if crossing that road is so bad, maybe a few pedestrian bridges are in order.


34 posted on 07/21/2013 4:02:42 PM PDT by meyer (What would John Hancock do?)
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To: Kid Shelleen

What’s wrong with the picture is you didn’t post it. Why should I follow the link just to see it?


35 posted on 07/21/2013 4:11:08 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Howdy to all you government agents spying on me.)
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To: meyer

OK, I just looked at the road on Bing maps, overhead view. I see a couple of crosswalks between intersections. Stupid idea. People trying to make the next light in a rough part of town don’t need to be stopping for pedestrian traffic.


36 posted on 07/21/2013 4:18:03 PM PDT by meyer (What would John Hancock do?)
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To: Alberta's Child

Just looked at Faunce Street and Roosevelt - I can see the problem. Apartments on one side, shopping on the other. The people that own homes on the east side of Roosevelt probably don’t want it to be too easy for the potentially low-income residents on the west side to get to their side of the road. Crime concerns. It’s a natural barrier.


37 posted on 07/21/2013 4:26:20 PM PDT by meyer (What would John Hancock do?)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Crosswalk old school, she new school.


38 posted on 07/21/2013 4:29:20 PM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Obama lies, smokes, blasphemes, eats pork, reads your mail, eavesdrops and drinks during Ramadan)
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To: meyer
Really, if crossing that road is so bad, maybe a few pedestrian bridges are in order.

Then they use them as a platform to throw chunks of concrete at the cars as they pass underneath.

39 posted on 07/21/2013 4:37:20 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
Then they use them as a platform to throw chunks of concrete at the cars as they pass underneath.

In that case, maybe pedestrian tunnels. :) Or maybe just big fences so that they HAVE to go to an intersection to cross.

40 posted on 07/21/2013 4:43:26 PM PDT by meyer (What would John Hancock do?)
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To: Kid Shelleen

I drove that road for 30 yrs from the Great Northeast to North Philly every day. It’s like the Daytona 500. Definitely not for beginners. In Philly there is no such thing as jaywalking. I saw many many an accident. My oldest daughter surely won’t forget when 2 guys on motor cycles ran a light and trust me it was not pretty. The guy flew over the hood and practically cut himself in half when he hit an unmovable light post. My daughter saw it all and probably will never drive or ride on a motor cycle.


41 posted on 07/21/2013 4:43:46 PM PDT by Undecided 2012
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Really, if crossing that road is so bad, maybe a few pedestrian bridges are in order.

Then they use them as a platform to throw chunks of concrete at the cars as they pass underneath.

No doubt, they are animals down there.


42 posted on 07/21/2013 4:45:54 PM PDT by Undecided 2012
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To: Alberta's Child

I just looked at an aerial view of Roosevelt at North Second Street. I would be very uncomfortable having to walk in that area. It does not look very pedestrian friendly at all.


43 posted on 07/21/2013 5:19:58 PM PDT by rwa265
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To: rwa265
Pedestrians weren't on planner's minds when Northeast Blvd. was built a century ago. (It was renamed after TR when he died in 1919.)

The PRT's trolley system avoided it, and it wasn't until the first gasoline powered buses arrived in the Twenties that Roosevelt got public transportation. The purpose of the highway was to open up Northeast Philly to development not driven by either the Pennsy or Reading, who had rail lines feeding that part of town.

The Frankford El was a city project from the same era, as were a number of trolley lines built to feed the El. These projects permitted Northeast Philly to blossom after World War I.

44 posted on 07/21/2013 5:28:45 PM PDT by Publius
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To: Kid Shelleen

I used to live off of Roosevelt in NE Philly (Bustleton Ave near Grant & “The Blvd”).

Many stretches of Roosevelt have the 6 lane highway itself and then there are 3 additional lanes on each side of Roosevelt...like “service” roads...that run parallel with the main road. Drivers have to use entry/exit lanes to merge onto the main part. Total of 12 lanes. You wind up with traffic that’s just shy of being a demolition derby. Introduce a pedestrian into that mayhem and it is just idiocy.

Folks that try to cross thru traffic or not at a crosswalk are just doing the world a favor exposing themselves to death.


45 posted on 07/21/2013 5:36:56 PM PDT by moovova
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To: DonaldC

used to live one block from there. lights few and far between. this road is many many miles long.


46 posted on 07/21/2013 5:57:24 PM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: moovova

we were neighbors? i lived off of grant ave betwen 1982 and 84.
5th street n blvd 1976 to 82.


47 posted on 07/21/2013 5:59:57 PM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: digger48

Replace the lyrics with, I want my country back.
Very catchy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntHVZdIZ7Vk


48 posted on 07/21/2013 6:02:43 PM PDT by sweetiepiezer
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To: Undecided 2012
I was at school in the middle of them adding dorms to create a residential area of campus. The Feds mandated that they build a pedestrian tunnel...

Can't remember exactly if they foresaw it attracting undesirables, or if it was retrofitted, in any event, it had an enclosed security post midway along one wall.

49 posted on 07/21/2013 6:06:02 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: DonaldC
...why in the photo is the woman not using a crosswalk?

Maybe the signs telling her to use the crosswalk are in cursive.

50 posted on 07/21/2013 6:06:29 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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