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Closing of Western Pennsylvania power plants leaves workers at a loss [Obama destroys 380 jobs]
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | July 21, 2013 | Jessica Contrera

Posted on 07/21/2013 10:32:39 PM PDT by grundle

A job for life. That's what they were promised.

It wasn't in a contract, but to the 20 men who gathered for Bud Lights and commiseration Wednesday night in Greene County, working at a power plant was the equivalent.

"This was the job everybody wanted," said Ray Christner Jr. of Brownsville. "We had it. And now it's gone."

Nine days had passed since FirstEnergy announced it will shut down two power plants: Hatfield's Ferry, Greene County, across the Monongahela River from Masontown, Fayette County, and Mitchell in Union Township, Washington County, by Oct. 9 -- leaving 380 people without work.

"First, we were shocked. Then we were upset. Now, we're just angry," said Gregg Jerome of Uniontown, an electrician at the plant.

The employees are mainly from Greene, Fayette and Washington counties. Many started at the plants soon after high school and some have stayed for more than 30 years. Others were transferred to Hatfield's Ferry and Mitchell when FirstEnergy closed six coal-fired power plants in Ohio, Maryland and Pennsylvania last year.

Those at Hatfield thought the plant would surely be safe from closure, as Allegheny Energy invested $650 million on scrubbers meant to eliminate sulfur and mercury emissions just four years ago.

If the workers lived somewhere else, losing a job in the power business might not be as stressful. But in Pennsylvania, where coal-fired power production has decreased 28 percent since 2005, there are few, if any, jobs that can replace what the workers at Hatfield's Ferry and Mitchell had: regular hours, salaries between $22 and $30 per hour, and good benefits, all without a college education.

"I understand the importance of regulations and clean air," said technician David Donaldson, 45. "But ask Obama this -- what good is green energy to me if I can't support my family?"

(Excerpt) Read more at post-gazette.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: abortion; deathpanels; globalwarminghoax; greenenergy; obamacare; pennsylvania; pittsburgh; powerplants; zerocare
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1 posted on 07/21/2013 10:32:39 PM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

It is a sad, sad world when you know more people that are laid off and without jobs, then you know people that are employed.


2 posted on 07/21/2013 10:41:02 PM PDT by doc1019 (Get our troops the hell out of the ME)
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To: grundle

Wow, reminds me of the Mitt Romney campaign smear commercials. All they need is wives with cancer who lose their benefits. No-one will report that though right?


3 posted on 07/21/2013 10:41:20 PM PDT by poobear (Socialism in the minds of the elites, is a con-game for the serfs, nothing more.)
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To: grundle

And how many of these guys voted for Obama? How’s that hopey changey stuff working out for them?


4 posted on 07/21/2013 10:41:43 PM PDT by Wingy
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To: grundle
Fear not, Hatfield's Ferry employees, Obama is going to give a major economic speech announcing the broad brush strokes of hit economic recovery plan. Surely there are some shovel-ready infrastructure jobs for you.

YOU HEARD HIS PLAN FOR COAL, WHAT THE HECK WERE YOU THINKING?

5 posted on 07/21/2013 10:42:28 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Unindicted Co-conspirators: The Mainstream Media)
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To: NonValueAdded
Surely there are some shovel-ready infrastructure jobs for you.

Gravedigging is a shovel-ready job, and Obama has one for you - digging your own ...

6 posted on 07/21/2013 10:45:08 PM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: grundle

Thankfully my younger brother got the hell outta there when Sunoco closed their plant.He had a job in Texas within 24 hours.Never looked back.Shame about those that a left.


7 posted on 07/21/2013 10:48:39 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: grundle

Whenever I see a story like this one, I wonder how many of those poor souls voted for the African communist Ubama in the first place.
I just want to laugh at those morons.


8 posted on 07/21/2013 10:55:49 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: grundle

The RNC should run ads every day featuring these layed off workers.


9 posted on 07/21/2013 11:00:35 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: doc1019

It’s even sadder knowing that they were warned by every conservative that they would be laid off, if Obama got re-elected and they probably voted for him anyway.


10 posted on 07/21/2013 11:13:09 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: RginTN

The RNC is making matters worse with its amnesty agenda.


11 posted on 07/21/2013 11:13:17 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Jonty30

Amen!


12 posted on 07/21/2013 11:16:14 PM PDT by doc1019 (Get our troops the hell out of the ME)
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To: Jonty30

Looks like Romney was right about Detroit as well. Such is the fate of fools who listen to and believe lies.

While its sad, PA consistently votes for a Demoncrat president every election year. The Bible is right when it says: ye shall reap what you sow.


13 posted on 07/22/2013 12:17:27 AM PDT by Catsrus (`)
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To: grundle

“...what good is green energy to me if I can’t support my family?”

Some of these folks should’ve thought of that before voting for Obamagabe.


14 posted on 07/22/2013 12:20:23 AM PDT by Stingray (Stand for the truth or you'll fall for anything.)
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To: Lancey Howard; grundle
I am ground zero for this BS. I live in Washington Co., work in Fayette Nam and hunt in Greene Co. commander zero did not win any of them. This is third world, banana republic, yeah, I said it, banana republic BOHICA.

This is absolutely devastating to this area.

If it weren't for fracking this area would look like Detroit. Actually downtown Brownsville does look like Detroit on a good day but it only cover 1/ 10 of their city block.

15 posted on 07/22/2013 12:55:53 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: grundle

And Penn. will continue to vote Democrat.


16 posted on 07/22/2013 12:55:59 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: RginTN

The RNC is too afraid of offending Obama and McCain.


17 posted on 07/22/2013 12:57:31 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Eagles6

I’ve been to many similar areas. My daughter-in-law’s family is in the Luzerne / Edwardsville / Forty Fort area across the river from Wilkes Barre. I had roommates and friends from places like Sunbury, Shenendoah, Tamaqua, and (yes) Frackville. That’s more central PA, but it is an area that was built around coal mining and now it’s mostly just hanging in. A lot of people who grew up there, stay there, though. It is a beautiful area.


18 posted on 07/22/2013 1:34:13 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Wingy
Fayette County, PA is represented by Bill Shuster - Republican.

Greene County, PA is represented by Kieth Rothfus - Republican

Washington County, PA is represented by Shuster and Tim Murphy - Republicans

Does anyone see a pattern developing here?

19 posted on 07/22/2013 1:47:05 AM PDT by eCSMaster (Palin was right (again)!)
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To: Eagles6
Urkel "Did I do that" when the brown outs start needs to understand you can't go shuttering coal fires steam generator power plants without first having means already on line to replace that massive loss. That means it must be replaced first with energy that is affordable and practical to generate. The choices for such are very limited.

Trying to discuss an economical and practical national energy policy with a Liberal is like trying to teach rocket science to a dog.

20 posted on 07/22/2013 1:54:47 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: cva66snipe

Precisely. This was predictable, as are the coming brown outs and blackouts.

I’ve been following energy policy for 35+ years, worked in a coal fired steam powerplant as an engineering student. I understand this stuff technically, and I understand it from a big picture economically. In a very fundamental way, the American Economic Miracle had a large foundation block called Cheap Energy.

We are allowing this fool in the White House to throw this away with very little debate. It isn’t going to end well. I hope some major NE cities have a blackout in time to create a real public debate and arrest the slide. I don’t see anything else making this happen.


21 posted on 07/22/2013 2:15:25 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster
We have persons making national energy policy who likely lack the education in basic electrical theory. I bet if someone presented a Perpetual Motion Generator and asked for a research grant they'd get it. The sudden great idea just about any first year trade school student gets studying electrical trades LOL. The policy makers are also the ones you can't get them to grasp why underground utility primary is a very bad idea.

We have four basic choices Nuclear reaction steam generation, Coal Fired Steam generation, Gas Turbines, and Hydroelectric power generation, as our meet the demand electrical power generation options. Nothing else of this production capacity is even on the drawing board as far as I know.

22 posted on 07/22/2013 2:48:51 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Lancey Howard

Probably not very strong of support for Obambi among union workers in the electric utility industry. They know of his desire to destroy coal (and with it, inexpensive energy for industry).

It’s a damn shame though - good jobs going away while the useless leftist environazi desk jockeys continue to make 6-figure incomes for doing nothing useful.


23 posted on 07/22/2013 3:01:12 AM PDT by meyer (What would John Hancock do?)
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To: grundle

Hey Pennsylvania! Elections have consequences. You knew this going in, yet you voted for him anyway.


24 posted on 07/22/2013 3:02:09 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: Hoodat

I’ll bet you that if you peeled Philly away from Pennsylvania, you’d have a fairly solid conservative state. Strong evidence, given that many precincts in Philadelphia had over 100% voter turnout, that massive voter fraud won the election for Obama. Probably both times.

Outside of the big cities, PA is a lot like Ohio - very conservative. It’s the big cities that are the problem, packed full of freeloaders voting for free stuff for themselves. I wonder what happens when population reaches that critical density that causes people to become incredibly short-sighted and stupid...


25 posted on 07/22/2013 3:08:16 AM PDT by meyer (What would John Hancock do?)
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To: grundle

I’m no fan of Obama, but let’s be honest here: The biggest factor in the closure of these power plants in western Pennsylvania is probably the declining prices of natural gas as the development of Marcellus shale gas extraction unfolds. Nobody is using less electricity these days, so these coal-fired plants are simply being replaced by gas-fired plants.


26 posted on 07/22/2013 3:18:20 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: eCSMaster
Follow the money; First Energy is the BIG utility lobbyist, caused the 2003 Midwest Blackout with incompetence, but donates and buys favorable legislation to make their CEI a multi-million-dollar bonus EVERY YEAR. They just pass costs to consumers and claim "Regulatory Costs went up", and that way, they eliminate jobs, raise prices, and the bottom-line is NEVER impacted.

That's the way government works today. Yet, the Unions do the money-laundering to the DNC, and then the Union labor is laid off, while the businesses PUSH Amnesty, to lower their costs.

In ALL these things; follow the money!

27 posted on 07/22/2013 3:22:17 AM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: traditional1

CEI=CEO


28 posted on 07/22/2013 3:23:01 AM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: cva66snipe

More wind and solar, maaaaan!

I’ve seen this movie before during the Carter Administration. We wasted $billions on that stuff and there’s nothing to show for it, and here we are doing it all over again, and worse.


29 posted on 07/22/2013 3:28:09 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: cva66snipe

My Labrador Retriever, LulaBelle, worked for NASA until they cancelled all space programs and became an outreach project.


30 posted on 07/22/2013 3:32:26 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks grundle.

Obama’s war on fulltime employment, Obama’s war on coal.


31 posted on 07/22/2013 3:36:05 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: cva66snipe
We have four basic choices Nuclear reaction steam generation, Coal Fired Steam generation, Gas Turbines, and Hydroelectric power generation, as our meet the demand electrical power generation options. Nothing else of this production capacity is even on the drawing board as far as I know.

You missed solar and wind power, two of the best ways to insure that you will freeze in the winter and sweat in the summer.


32 posted on 07/22/2013 3:51:21 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages, start today.)
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To: Eagles6

I live in Indiana County. We have three power plants here. Obama didn’t win our county either. I’m betting it’s just a matter of time before they target at least one of the three.

I like that - “Fayette Nam” lol!!


33 posted on 07/22/2013 3:58:34 AM PDT by sneakers
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To: fortheDeclaration

I think western Penn is conservative, isn’t it? I’d say there are parts of many NE states that have conservatives in them in the areas not dominated by large urban cities filled with minorities, foreigners and illegals, with a healthy helping of just plain ole rabid liberals thrown in, too.


34 posted on 07/22/2013 4:02:25 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gene Eric

The RNC is making matters worse with its amnesty agenda


I know, right! I ignore those ads cause they’re utter b.s.
Well I get why the Republican party is called the stupid party by some here.


35 posted on 07/22/2013 4:05:10 AM PDT by RginTN
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To: USS Alaska
You missed solar and wind power, two of the best ways to insure that you will freeze in the winter and sweat in the summer.

Oh those things? Didn't T Boone sink a fortune into them? LOL soon after they began putting wind turbines up they realized many humans could not withstand the low frequency harmonics they create. Low Frequency sounds can not be shut out by basic ear protection either as it penetrates the skull which is part of your hearing.

They might work out well up on the Canadian Plains but here in East Tennessee they'll not be turning enough to matter on most days.

Walmart thought they'd be real Green and put in skylights as their primary store lighting in the day time. LOL they leave the lights on now. People around here that I know who have solar power are persons too far from the power grid to afford utilities.

36 posted on 07/22/2013 4:07:55 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: eCSMaster

Have been seeing the pattern in Texas for a while.

Obama and his minion the EPA has been trying to punish Texas for the last 5 years but so for Texas has been able to absorb the blows

Secede. Cruz for President of Texas


37 posted on 07/22/2013 4:27:22 AM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: grundle

I am sad for these people, but it seems when you hear these stories, these folks keep voting for their own demise.

Truth is the politicians lie before every election and the people buy it. They want to believe democrats.


38 posted on 07/22/2013 4:35:56 AM PDT by dforest (I have now entered the Twilight Zone.)
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To: grundle

Power from some of the best coal in the world.
Trashed.


39 posted on 07/22/2013 4:39:51 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: fortheDeclaration
Here's where the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette was on this a year ago when they handed out their endorsement for President:

Re-elect Obama

40 posted on 07/22/2013 5:04:32 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: grundle

Obummer promised us before he was elected in 2008
that he intended to destroy the electric generating
capacity of this country and cause the costs to
consumers for electricity to “skyrocket”. A criminal
and treasonous plan that he has carried out as intended.
He should be strung up from a lamppost for this....along
with the countless other crimes he has committed while
posing as a leader....when he in fact is just an Alinsky
trained puppet.


41 posted on 07/22/2013 5:11:22 AM PDT by nvscanman
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To: Hoodat

That is why I don’t read that fish wrap. I rather read the Tribune Reveiw. Also, when will those that allow their union leadership to support those that want to destroy their jobs going to wake up? Like what has been posted today, PA’s elections are controled by east and west part of the state.


42 posted on 07/22/2013 5:20:03 AM PDT by Busko (The only thing that is certain is that nothing is certain.)
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To: Lancey Howard
Whenever I see a story like this one, I wonder how many of those poor souls voted for the African communist Ubama in the first place. I just want to laugh at those morons.

Laugh all you want. Fayette, Green & Washington Counties, where these men and women work, all went for Romney.

43 posted on 07/22/2013 5:31:53 AM PDT by Ramcat (Thank You American Veterans)
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To: grundle

Let’s see....did western Pa. support Obama.......hummmmmmmm!!!!


44 posted on 07/22/2013 5:35:21 AM PDT by ontap (***)
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To: Ramcat

If they are union employees they supported Obama.....they may not have wanted to but they did.....can’t have it both ways...when it came time to choose between their paycheck and the country they chose their paycheck.....now they are finding out what they really chose!!!!!


45 posted on 07/22/2013 5:46:03 AM PDT by ontap (***)
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To: ontap

Voting for odumbo has its consequences now, doesn’t it?

I feel badly for those who lost their jobs but who really brought that on? Keep voting “demodummie” and it will eventually catch up with you.


46 posted on 07/22/2013 6:17:09 AM PDT by DaveA37 (I'm for SMALLER , HONEST government)
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To: Progov

To all those effected who voted for nobama/LIBs/DIMs...Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!


47 posted on 07/22/2013 6:55:12 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: ontap
Let’s see....did western Pa. support Obama.......hummmmmmmm!!!!

Here's an election 2012 map of Pennsylvania. You probably won't follow the link so I'll point out that only two Western PA counties went for Obama (Erie & Allegheny).

I will also point out that these are good people and good jobs that we're talking about.

http://www.politico.com/2012-election/map/#/President/2012/PA

48 posted on 07/22/2013 7:59:51 AM PDT by Ramcat (Thank You American Veterans)
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To: Progov
Kind of makes one wonder how those union meetings are going right now with the members knowing that 98% or more of their political money went to the people who are putting them out of work. Sorry...but it has it schadenfreude moment, don't you think!!!
49 posted on 07/22/2013 7:59:51 AM PDT by ontap (***)
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To: Wingy

Yep, and how many were union and contributed to Obama?


50 posted on 07/22/2013 8:00:45 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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