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To: neverdem
The object of war used to be victory over an opponent. They gave up the fight because there was no alternative. How many wars have been fought by the U.S. since Korea (1950-1953) where there was a clear cut victory? None that I remember. The politicians will not allow it and best efforts of our military are sacrificed on the altar of political expediency.
3 posted on 07/22/2013 1:51:03 AM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: MasterGunner01

Wars are supposed to be publicly debated. The purpose of this is to avoid wars which the public doesn’t understand and focus on critical fights, not Presidential whim.

When was the last declared war?


4 posted on 07/22/2013 2:11:08 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: MasterGunner01
The post-WW2 era is easier to understand once you realize that the U.S. military is really a tool of corporate interests, not an instrument of national defense for this country.

Every war the U.S. has fought since World War II was basically a "colonial" war. This means there's no way to effectively defeat the enemy from a traditional standpoint when the sole purpose of the military campaign is to turn the enemy into suppliers and customers of global industries. There's no reason to lay waste to entire nations when the whole purpose of engaging them militarily is to transform them into trading partners.

9 posted on 07/22/2013 4:15:33 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: MasterGunner01
How many wars have been fought by the U.S. since Korea (1950-1953) where there was a clear cut victory?

We have had ZERO wars fought by us since WW2. Congress has not declared war on anybody since WW2, for the simple reason that Article 2 section 4 of the UN Charter forbids us to do so without UN approval. It has all been "police actions" or "authorization for the use of force".

We have not had victory, because we have not waged war. War involves the destruction of the enemy's capabilities to the point where they are forced to surrender or face extermination -- which were the choices given to Germany and Japan in 1945.

10 posted on 07/22/2013 4:41:47 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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