Skip to comments.Panama finds MiG fighter jets on N. Korean arms ship
Posted on 07/22/2013 1:16:33 PM PDT by RainMan
Investigators in Panama have found two MiG-21 fighter jets in cargo containers aboard a North Korean ship carrying weapons from Cuba.
COLON, Panama Panamanian investigators unloading the cargo of a seized North Korean ship that carried arms from Cuba have found the two MiG-21 fighter jets the Cuban government had said were on board, the government said Sunday.
Alongside the two supersonic planes, originally produced by the Soviet Union in the late 1950s, officials found two missile radar systems on board the Chong Chon Gang, President Ricardo Martinelli told reporters in the Atlantic port of Colón.
The discovery, which included cables and electrical equipment, was made inside containers on the ship Panama had feared might contain explosive material. None was found.
After stopping the vessel bound for North Korea last week, Panama revealed it had found weapons in the cargo hold late Monday. In response, Cuba said the shipment contained a range of "obsolete" arms being sent to North Korea for repair.
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Gee, how big is this ship?!? They’ve been searching it for days and are still finding things as big as planes hidden on it.
two sugar coated MiG-21 fighter jets
I bet they could get pretty good money for MiGs from aviation enthusiasts. Who wouldn’t want their own supersonic fighter?
The sugar was worth more.............
Like a big box of Cracker Jacks...............
MiG fighters from the 1950’s?
Yah...you betcha. They’re not worth the sugar they were packed in.
Those containers were hidden in a bulk section buried under bags of sugar.
And just because it was recently announced doesn't mean it was just found today....
From my limited understanding, it's not the purchase price of ex-Soviet supersonic aircraft that's expensive, rather it's fuel and maintenance costs. Many of these came onto the market following the collapse of the Soviet Union and its satellites. There is one MIG 21 for sale right now for $79,500.
I take it that’s the refueling probe with a protective device on it.
What was your purpose in directing me to that link?
Yes. I bet the fuel and maintenance for a MiG-21 would be fiendishly expensive. And, fun as it might be, the cruising speed of a MiG would be no faster than an airliner; and the range is short - no coast to coast commuting!
14 February 1955 (Ye-2)
Well, I did order a Fishbed with my last Mosin Nagant, without the sugar.
About the only use for a Mig 21 would be as a human guided cruise missile.
What? Again? They just had ship before that was stopped.
Are you accusing the Panamanians of profiling? Or are they stopping other ships than those on the cuba-NK route? Inquiring minds and all that...
“About the only use for a Mig 21 would be as a human guided cruise missile.”
We have a winner, folks....
Yep I think your right.
Hmmm... so planes wear prophylactics on their “probes” too, eh?
No wonder the captain tried to commit suicide when they searched the ship.
What most people are missing, because they are stupid, is that this is all part of the current Spy Games.
MiGs, you see, aren’t a banned munition or armament. Heck, civilians can purchase them on the open market without so much as a permit.
In fact, everything on that old rust bucket NK ship...packed in sugar (the irony of which our CIA will never grasp because our CIA is stupid)...is legal.
Now, the fact that everything on the NK ship is legal won’t, at first, mean anything to most Americans.
...but here’s the deal:
#1: the Russian FSB pranked our CIA two weeks ago by leaking that Snowden was on the Bolivian President’s airplane. Except, he wasn’t. And after publicly stating that he wouldn’t down aircraft to get Snowden, 0bama tried doing exactly that. The Bolivian President’s jet was re-routed and ordered to land in Europe where it was inspected against the diplomatic protests of Bolivia’s President! Embarrassing.
To this day our stupid CIA still doesn’t get the joke.
#2: the Russian FSB leaked that this NK rustbucket ship was carrying long-range missiles for North Korea. Except, it wasn’t. Instead of banned missile tech, it was packed with half-century old junk.
To this day our stupid CIA still doesn’t get this joke, either. Embarrassing.
#3: in two more weeks, the Russian FSB will prank our CIA again...and our stupid CIA will fall for it. Again.
This will continue until *finally* someone in the CIA or NSA realizes that some of their data-mining (e.g. PRISM, PRIIMUS, others) is being spoofed for sport.
Until then it will be diplomatic faux pas after FUBAR after faux pas after FUBAR internationally for the U.S.
...because our CIA is stupid.
You only said that because it is true. It is hard to watch our nation die.
In the event something like this happened and they were compromised.
Their SOP is mass suicide when corner, caught or arrested. Like the man/woman pair of bombers on KAL some years ago, only she apparantly did not bite down hard enough and Bahrain officials could wrestle the cyanide laced tobacco out of her mouth in time...it only left a burn mark.
I would take away any DPRK cigarettes from the crew and have them searched from head to toe, and put in Panamanic prison garb, to prevent any suicides. Eventually one of them will "talk". Some enticement money could see to that. I wonder how savvy Panama is to these "realities". Perhaps somebody should tell them.
I think Red Bull had a MiG.
MiG fighters from the 1950s?
Yah...you betcha. Theyre not worth the sugar they were packed in.<<<<<
With proper avionics suite and good missiles it is still a match for F-16s, especially older versions.
As a fighter, it’s not worth much. As a manned cruise missile delivering a nuke/chem/bio package...