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Shot that killed Chesterfield boy fired within 5,000 ft [celebratory gunfire near Richmond VA]
Richmond Times-Dispatch ^ | July 17, 2013 | Mark Bowes

Posted on 07/22/2013 7:17:51 PM PDT by deks

Police now believe a bullet that killed a 7-year-old Chesterfield County boy was fired randomly somewhere within a 5,000-foot radius from the spot where the child was fatally struck while walking with his father July 4.

Ballistics and federal firearms experts consulted by Chesterfield police believe the .40-caliber-class bullet was likely fired at a 55- to 70- degree angle and, based on that trajectory, the round likely traveled a maximum distance of about 5,000 feet, or just less than a mile, Chesterfield Capt. Chris Hensley said during a news briefing Monday.

Hensley said the bullet that killed Brendon Mackey came almost straight down. He was struck in the head as he walked to The Boathouse at Sunday Park on the Swift Creek Reservoir. ...

Chesterfield police, assisted by the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, have begun canvassing neighborhoods within the maximum estimated range of the bullet’s trajectory in an attempt to find the person responsible. ...

Hensley said police began canvassing neighborhoods Friday in the Brandermill area and covered 300 to 400 homes so far, or about 10 to 15 percent of the targeted area. ...

“So this is going to take time,” the captain said. “People need to know over the next several weeks, that if they have a police officer or detective knocking on their door, it’s going to be in relation to this case.”

(Excerpt) Read more at timesdispatch.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: banglist; celebratorygunfire
Brendon was walking with his father shortly before the Fourth of July fireworks display by a reservoir about 15 miles southwest of downtown Richmond, VA.

He collapsed to the ground after being struck in the head by a bullet and was taken to a hospital where he died on July 5th.

So called "celebratory gunfire" or any negligent gunfire up into the air can be fatal.

1 posted on 07/22/2013 7:17:51 PM PDT by deks
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To: deks

Especy when fired at a ballistic trajectory. Anyone who does that is utterly stupid or has a depraved disregard for others.


2 posted on 07/22/2013 7:23:34 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: piytar
Especy when fired at a ballistic trajectory. Anyone who does that is utterly stupid or has a depraved disregard for others.

Wait, I'm confused, I thought we were all supposed to do that shooting at drones?

3 posted on 07/22/2013 7:25:29 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: deks

The Latino population in San Antonio just can’t celebrate without firing bullets into the air. Children have been killed, but that doesn’t convince them that the bullets do come down.


4 posted on 07/22/2013 7:27:46 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: deks

“So called “celebratory gunfire” or any negligent gunfire up into the air can be fatal.”

We need to give Jihadists more reason to celebrate.


5 posted on 07/22/2013 7:31:39 PM PDT by Stingray (Stand for the truth or you'll fall for anything.)
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To: deks

Tragic.

But any one who hadn’t disposed of the weapon by now would be incredibly stupid- or remorseful.


6 posted on 07/22/2013 7:31:53 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: deks

I’m not sure this bullet would go that far.

The poor kid is dead. It’s a real shame.

Commons sense is very uncommon.


7 posted on 07/22/2013 7:32:20 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Zimmerman breaks Martin's nose/pounds his head on concrete? Does Martin's backers support Zimmerman?)
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To: deks

Biden says its ok to shoot into the air, but maybe some people didn’t get the “shotgun” part.


8 posted on 07/22/2013 7:35:11 PM PDT by Lockbar (The guy that fires the last bullet gets to write the history books,)
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To: deks

From reading the comments, it appears that discharging a firearm is perfectly legal in Chesterfield County if it is done so for a Patrotic Display.

It was Independence Day.


9 posted on 07/22/2013 7:35:39 PM PDT by Wellington VII
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To: Wellington VII
discharging a firearm is perfectly legal in Chesterfield County if

it doesn't kill somebody

10 posted on 07/22/2013 7:49:14 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: DoughtyOne

11 posted on 07/22/2013 7:53:35 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: Wellington VII

I didn’t read the comments, but I’m surprised that someone would think that it’s legal.

I believe local governments in Virginia are allowed to regulate the discharge of firearms. The state code has this. . .

18.2-280 Willfully discharging firearms in public places.

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+18.2-280


12 posted on 07/22/2013 7:56:13 PM PDT by deks ("...the battle...liberty against the overreach of the federal government" Ken Cuccinelli)
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To: Delta 21

Thank you Delta 21. Looks like I was wrong there huh.

LOL Oops.


13 posted on 07/22/2013 9:17:23 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Zimmerman breaks Martin's nose/pounds his head on concrete? Does Martin's backers support Zimmerman?)
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To: deks

This is a difficult, sad thing. Imagine a group of 20 people, all shooting guns into the air. The next day, you learn some child was killed by a bullet. Which of you should go to prison for the next 20 years for manslaughter?

Shouldn’t all of you go to prison? After all, it is sheer luck which if any of you shot the actual bullet that killed the boy. It’s like a firing squad. All of you committed the same crime. But the police were not even coming AFTER you, until someone was dead. And now they are looking for the single person whose actual bullet killed the boy.

And that one person, of the thousands of people around the country, will go to prison.

On the one hand, I’d rather have everybody punished equally for the same action. On the other hand, if you shoot a gun in the air and it doesn’t do any damage, you haven’t hurt anyone — so why would we put you in jail.

But that argument suggests that nobody should go to jail. It was just dumb luck. A kid is dead, and that is sad. But if we really want to stop that, we should actually round up everybody who does this next year, and throw them in jail. So I go in circles.

In the end, someone either is going to live in silent guilt, or else someone is going to prison for a long time for dumb luck.


14 posted on 07/22/2013 9:18:46 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: deks

“Hensley said the bullet that killed Brendon Mackey came almost straight down.

This is much different from the initial report, which said it came in at a 15-20 degree angle. If it came straight down, it must have been fired from relatively close by.


15 posted on 07/22/2013 9:27:21 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: DoughtyOne

Maximum EFFECTIVE range (that you can hit what you aim at) for a .40 cal is probly not much over 100yards, but modern ammunition will travel much further and still have the energy to kill.


16 posted on 07/22/2013 9:34:58 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: Delta 21

Yes, I realize that if a bullet can get there, it has the potential to be lethal.

I don’t believe in shooting your weapon in any direction where there may be people down range.

I am a fanatic about NOT pointing my weapon across any plane that intersects a living being.

If I am walking with my weapon, I do so with the safety on, the barrel aimed at the ground, and my hand cupping the trigger guard.

I can’t tell you how many times I have been out shooting, or around people with guns, where they wave that thing around like it’s cotton candy.

If someone does that to me, I leave.

I once had someone call me on walking around with a magazine still in the mechanism, even though I had the gun pointed at the ground and was walking with my hand over the trigger guard.

Only moments before I had a guy take his rifle and move left to right across my torso without so much as evidencing he knew what he had done.

I grew up on a farm. In that climate you can walk through a lot of bushes. That’s why I keep my hand over the trigger guard.

My gun is always considered loaded. It’s always considered to have the safety off.

I wish others always played by those rules.


17 posted on 07/22/2013 9:44:44 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Zimmerman breaks Martin's nose/pounds his head on concrete? Does Martin's backers support Zimmerman?)
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To: Delta 21

What is the trajectory used to determine these distances?

I would assume 45 degrees as that would provide the maximum distance between shooter and landing zone.


18 posted on 07/22/2013 9:46:14 PM PDT by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: Eaker

Its specific to bullet weight and powder charge , and a ton of variables. They are saying 55-70 degree angle which is still gonna put a lot of potential into the equation.

From looking on the map at the link my first suspicion was “it had to come from across the river”. Folks on the other side celebrating, shooting off over the water probly (or not even) thinking its safe.


19 posted on 07/22/2013 10:08:52 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: deks

Our ancestors were a lot smarter than we are about this. I have read several articles about the past that mention the shooting of “blanks” from firearms during celebrations. Most of the blanks I see on gunshow tables are very old. I cannot remember when I saw any new ones.


20 posted on 07/23/2013 6:03:43 AM PDT by jim_trent
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To: DoughtyOne
I can’t tell you how many times I have been out shooting, or around people with guns, where they wave that thing around like it’s cotton candy.

Here's an article that backs you up:

Man shot through both arms are range

21 posted on 07/23/2013 9:49:50 AM PDT by aimhigh (Guns do not kill people. Abortion kills people.)
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To: aimhigh
In later years, when asked to name his proudest moment in Congress, John McCain would go all the way back to his first year in the House of Representatives to point to a case in which he stood against a Republican president. In 1983, McCain voted against Ronald Reagan's decision to deploy U.S. troops to Lebanon. "I do not see any obtainable objectives in Lebanon," he said at the time, "and the longer we stay there, the harder it will be to leave."43 (1) McCain sees the act as a defining moment: the neophyte lawmaker breaking ranks with his party and his political hero. (The actual vote was 270-161 in favor of deployment; McCain was joined by twenty-seven Republicans in opposition.) (2) The dissenters would later be vindicated when a truck bomber slammed into the Marine barracks in Lebanon, killing 241 U.S. servicemen and precipitating a U.S. withdrawal. "It demonstrated to me that you really have to do, at the end of the day, what you fundamentally know is right," McCain told the National Journal years later.

(1) I would have to disagree that this was his party, or President Reagan was his political hero.  Over time that has been born out.  John McCain was his political hero.  Anyone with a buck was 'his party', even George Soros, Theresa Heinz Kerry, and the Tides Foundation.

(2) You aren't vindicated when something preventable takes place.  That truck should never have made it anywhere near the barracks in Lebanon.  President Reagan was terribly underserved when logistics on the ground were not set up to adequately prevent something like this happening.  And of course there was John McCain basking in the limelight explaining what a sage he was, ignoring the true unfortunate nature of this attack.  "See, see, I was right..."  Asshole!

That was a long read alright.  I didn't have time to go all the way through it.  It does look worthy of doing some time though, so I'm saving a link to it.

Thank you.

22 posted on 07/23/2013 10:50:32 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Kill the bill... Begin enforcing our current laws, signed by President Ronald Reagan.)
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An article with additional information has been posted here. . .

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/va-boys-death-puts-focus-celebratory-gunshots


23 posted on 08/10/2013 11:56:14 PM PDT by deks ("...the battle...liberty against the overreach of the federal government" Ken Cuccinelli)
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