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IRS fears Disclosure Above All Else, Offer Made in Court Confirms (Jewish Press)
The Jewish Press ^ | 7/22/13 | Lori Lowenthal Marcus

Posted on 07/22/2013 8:01:00 PM PDT by knak

The IRS insists that there is no legal remedy for determining whether an applicant's constitutional rights have been violated, and that offended parties must be satisfied with a "good enough" remedy, even if it is not perfect.

The IRS is doing everything it can to prevent accusers from determining whether its decision making processes violated the constitutional rights of applicants for tax exempt status

On Friday, July 19, in federal district court in Washington, D.C., Department of Justice lawyers who have the misfortune of having to represent the Internal Revenue Service were forced to reveal exactly how desperate the IRS is to keep its deep, dark secrets buried.

The hearing was held to determine whether the IRS would succeed in convincing the court to dismiss Z STREET’s lawsuit for viewpoint discrimination, before any of the claims alleged by Z STREET can be examined.

It is critical for the IRS to succeed at this stage of litigation, because if it does, Z STREET will be barred from finding out whether the IRS acted in an unconstitutional manner in setting aside its application for tax exempt status. If the IRS succeeds at this stage, no questions will be permitted into how it is that, according to documents produced by the IRS, the application for tax exempt status of an organization with a viewpoint about Israel which differs from this administration’s was pulled aside for extra scrutiny.

Over the course of more than an hour, and despite federal Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson’s increasingly apparent frustration with the shifting legal positions of the IRS, the DoJ lawyer said two things that should make everyone who is following the IRS scandals raise their eyebrows right through their hairlines.

(Excerpt) Read more at jewishpress.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: benghazi; discrimination; fastandfurious; firstamendment; freespeech; impeachnow; irs; irsscandal; irsscandals; irssettlement; israel; zstreet
interesting read
1 posted on 07/22/2013 8:01:00 PM PDT by knak
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks knak.


2 posted on 07/22/2013 8:03:09 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: knak

Slavery, not just for black people anymore!


3 posted on 07/22/2013 8:11:40 PM PDT by MtnClimber (TEA Party, DOMA, Patriot, Constitution, 9/12, Anti-communist...There, come and get me zer0!)
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To: knak

Good article.


4 posted on 07/22/2013 8:13:34 PM PDT by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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To: knak

“The rights of the individuals are restricted only to the extent that they have been voluntarily surrendered by the citizenship to the agencies of government.”
City of Dallas v Mitchell, 245 S.W. 944


5 posted on 07/22/2013 8:21:13 PM PDT by phockthis (http://www.supremelaw.org/fedzone11/index.htm ...)
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To: knak
Stay calm folks! Traitor Mc is on the case!


6 posted on 07/22/2013 8:21:15 PM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: Excellence

srbfl


7 posted on 07/22/2013 8:21:55 PM PDT by Excellence (All your database are belong to us.)
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To: LyinLibs
Eww, that's gross. LOL.
8 posted on 07/22/2013 8:23:59 PM PDT by knak (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing)
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To: knak

Could the Democrat Cartel finally be in serious trouble?


9 posted on 07/22/2013 8:31:51 PM PDT by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: SunkenCiv; thouworm

Thanks for the ping.

Did you all see the link in the article to the Free Beacon?

“As Alana Goodman of the Washington Free Beacon observed from her seat in the court room on July 19”

Pro-Israel Group Asks Judge to Determine Constitutionality of IRS Targeting
http://freebeacon.com/pro-israel-group-asks-judge-to-determine-constitutionality-of-irs-targeting/

subtitle:
IRS says decision unnecessary until Z Street’s tax-exempt status settled

Z Street says it wants the government to publicly disclose its policy for dealing with tax-exempt applications from Israel-advocacy organizations, as well as a court decision on whether the policy violates the First Amendment.


10 posted on 07/22/2013 8:37:18 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: knak

IF the IRS were an individual, they would be presumed innocent.

Might I suggest that because they are instead an agency, they are entitled to no such presumption.

Instead, the IRS insistence they are accountable to no one should be grounds for disbanding this arm of the IRS.

No individuals from this arm shall be allowed future Federal Employment.

Any office subsequently chartered for this area of determination, regarding tax exempt status shall have open, transparent, and OBJECTIVE pass/fail criteria.
Said agency shall NOT be an arm of the IRS.


11 posted on 07/22/2013 8:40:54 PM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: Rembrandt

Of course, this is the test case for about 1,000 Tea Party cases. The DOJ has decided not to prosecute anyone in the IRS concerning these obvious violations. Now the Federal Courts are the only recourse. Let’s hope that our courts don’t become facilitators of the Obama organized crime machine.


12 posted on 07/22/2013 8:45:39 PM PDT by DJtex
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To: LyinLibs

Needed to clean out his ears so he can hear common sense utterances.


13 posted on 07/22/2013 10:03:29 PM PDT by Postman (Flies get too little credit.)
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To: DJtex

Don’t be come facilitators of the obastard crime machine? What do you mean, become? They already are. This will go nowhere. The court is already weaseling. It is sounding more and more like, “no standing” every minute.


14 posted on 07/22/2013 10:06:19 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: Rembrandt; DJtex; knak; G Larry; LyinLibs; SunkenCiv; thouworm; phockthis; gitmo; MtnClimber

Y’all need to prepare yourselves for this going very badly. Nothing is going to go against the IRS in this court. The fix is in. Kitanji ain’t going to go against a brother. Forget it. The judge is black as coal. Obastard has been pushing her along for some time now.

“Jackson will take the filings... under advisement...there is no time table for when she will rule.”

This, boys and girls, is an obastard tactic. Act outraged, investigate, stall, sweep it under the rug when the next crisis comes along. When asked about progress say you can’t discuss an ongoing investigation or court case.

This government is rogue and can’t be stopped legally.

http://legaltimes.typepad.com/blt/2013/03/new-dc-federal-judge-jackson-doesnt-get-fazed.html


15 posted on 07/22/2013 10:24:51 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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16 posted on 07/23/2013 7:29:40 AM PDT by SJackson ( The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself. BF)
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To: knak

I don’t support any type of income tax, even a flat tax, because it would leave the IRS and most of their hundreds of thousands of arcane rules in place.


17 posted on 07/23/2013 7:40:24 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: knak
Despite that track record, in court on Friday, the IRS offered to waive this statutory requirement – if only Z STREET would abandon its effort to find out what the IRS’s policy about such applications has actually been. How nice. Except Z STREET did not bring this lawsuit as a way to find out if its application for tax exempt status was accepted or denied.

Z STREET's doing this action on principle... something the IRS doesn't seem to understand. They're doing it for all groups - past and present - that could be stripped of their constitutional rights based on IRS whim...

The IRS is doing the equivalent of saying, "OK, we robbed you, now here's your money back. No reason to call the cops..."

18 posted on 07/23/2013 8:16:42 AM PDT by GOPJ (Department of Justice to Americans:'How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?')
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To: SJackson; Nachum

Nachum, your list?

This is so incredibly vile my skin is crawling. Every fedgov agency is now a tool to punish those not licking the jackboot.


19 posted on 07/23/2013 3:22:58 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah; knak
"...This is so incredibly vile my skin is crawling. Every fedgov agency is now a tool to punish those not licking the jackboot..."

And yet, there is a card out there that has yet to be played - Lois Learner - just screaming for immunity, and dirty-as-hell!

And she's white, with a short lifespan ................................................. FRegards

20 posted on 07/23/2013 6:45:34 PM PDT by gonzo ( Buy more ammo, dammit! You should already have the firearms ... FRegards)
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To: gonzo

It gets worse too...

Drudge has a developing story up that Christine O’Donnell’s tax file and record of snooping mysteriously go missing.


21 posted on 07/23/2013 6:52:29 PM PDT by knak (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing)
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To: gonzo

Something needs to break open the dam holding back the truth about all the crimes committed by the administration.


22 posted on 07/23/2013 8:32:21 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: knak

It is the second coming of the Star Chamber.


23 posted on 07/23/2013 10:24:01 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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