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Tepco now admits radioactive water entering the sea at Fukushima No. 1 (Japan)
Japan Times ^ | 07/22/2013 | Jiji

Posted on 07/22/2013 9:19:23 PM PDT by TexGrill

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To: bigfootbob
Silly Luddite

Yes, I am. I wish I could go back to the quill.

But OK, if you say so. Salmon for me. Alaskan salmon. From Alaska. I bought some at the market in nice little serving-sized frozen packages. Upon closer inspection at home, small print revealed "Product of China."

21 posted on 07/22/2013 11:16:19 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely expressed as advice)
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To: bigfootbob

Nukes disperse less radioactive material than Fukushima because bombs are very efficient converting matter into energy so it’s mostly heat, light sound etc.

There was actually a sizable discharge of radioactive waste into the ocean re Fukushima and scientists were tracking it. Given that the northern oceanic gyre sweeps up the coast of japan to china, across the Aleutians and then down the coast of the US, I was initially shocked to see that the dense plume of radioactive wastes was transiting the ocean pretty much from east japan to west US. But of course, that would be due to the rotation of the earth - similar to the way that the jet stream blows across the US in that same direction.

This article details how some researchers tested 15 bluefin tuna from the docks in San Diego in hopes of detecting radioactivity from Fukushima in August of 2011 (5 months after the meltdown). They thought that any radioactivity would have dissipated by the time the bluefin tuna crossed the Pacific Ocean. They were wrong - all 15 of the bluefin tuna they tested had significant amounts of radiation. Score! Unless you are someone who doesn’t like to eat radiation in their tuna!

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/may/08/science/la-sci-fukushima-radiation-20130225

In terms of longitude, a radiation “front” (radioactive wastes carried by ocean currents) had made it half way from Japan to the US in March 2012 (about 180 degrees longitude). It should have made it about here by now, eh?


22 posted on 07/22/2013 11:28:45 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: Veto!

Isn’t everything from China anymore? *sigh*

Here’s one of the articles detailing the tracking of nuclear waste from fukushima as it crosses the Pacific. I’ve seen others, some with graphics - the plume should have reached the US by now (oceanic plume). Note that in my prior post I linked an article where scientists detected fukushima radioactivity in 15 of the 15 fish they tested...in San Diego one year after the disaster in Japan.


23 posted on 07/22/2013 11:32:34 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: ransomnote

Thanks, interesting article. I hope they continue to check everything coming into the US from Japan and from islands between.\

I actually went deep sea fishing from those piers in San Diego many years ago. With the bf. I couldn’t get past the baiting-the-hook process, so he caught all the fish and I ooohed and aaahed. And ate. No radioactive fish then. Ah the good old days.


24 posted on 07/22/2013 11:55:26 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely expressed as advice)
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To: Veto!

They aren’t checking much - that was just a scientific sample. :(
I think Ooooh and Ahhhhhhhhh contribute a great deal to the whole fishing process -wouldn’t be much fun without it. :)


25 posted on 07/23/2013 12:24:56 AM PDT by ransomnote
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To: Veto!

Yikes. I see I left one link off - the Huffpo regarding the plume of nuclear wastes expected to reach the US 2 years after Fukushima.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/03/fukushima-radiation-pacific-ocean_n_1399843.html


26 posted on 07/23/2013 12:26:23 AM PDT by ransomnote
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To: Veto!

“Salmon for me. Alaskan salmon. From Alaska. I bought some at the market in nice little serving-sized frozen packages. Upon closer inspection at home, small print revealed “Product of China.””

It still could be Alaska salmon that was filleted, cut, cleaned and packaged in China.

However, fish from the south china sea might be less radioactive than alaska salmon.

This is because the pacific current is similar to the US east coast gulf stream. The pacific current starts in japan, goes up to alaska and down to California. It is why all the tsunami junk like floating docks, cars and ships is ending up in Washington state. It is also why California is cool in summer, unlike the east coast of the USA where the gulf stream starts in the carribean, goes up the east coast and over to Britain.


27 posted on 07/23/2013 2:14:54 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: Veto!

I bought the store brand apple juice for my kids. This store advertises using locally and state grown produce, yaddah, yaddah. Stamped on the bottle “made from concentrate from China.” Threw that away. The same chain fights tooth an nail to keep big box stores from being able to expand into grocery sales based upon the premise that you don’t know where their food comes from.


28 posted on 07/23/2013 5:31:37 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Norm Lenhart
No, there are Deathclaws that way.

I ain't going through that Meat Gate!

29 posted on 07/23/2013 5:43:16 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: Veto!

Product of China! Wow. I fish the Pacific off the Washington Coast and the Staright of Jaun De Fuca in the Puget Sound region and try to go to Alaskan once a year. Never seen a Chinaman fishing. I know they are out there. I never would have thought commercial Salmon would be marketed thru China since the American commercial fishery is so damn large and they and the tribes vacuum so many fish.


30 posted on 07/23/2013 5:49:41 AM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: ransomnote
From the article: The amounts the fish carried were minuscule — far less, ounce for ounce, than the amount of naturally occurring radiation in a banana — but possibly enough for scientists to gain insight into animal migration, the team wrote in their report.

Stop your silly scare-mongering.

31 posted on 07/23/2013 6:01:30 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: staytrue

Agree about the radioactive waters splashing on our shores. What a disgrace. I’m in the PNW. Someone here at FR sent me a link to site that measures radioactivity in the US. We were getting blasted after Fukushima, hundreds of times more than usual. Maybe now too.

I don’t want to know because I cannot do anything about it. Few things seem overwhelming to me, but this issue does. Big sigh.

I love the West Coast, have chosen to spend most of my adult here.


32 posted on 07/23/2013 9:44:46 AM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely expressed as advice)
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To: Bullish
Hello


33 posted on 07/23/2013 9:51:47 AM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: ransomnote
Tuna caught off the coast of Fukushima can end up in your dinner table because fish swim and we import goods from around the world....Fukushima is a massive experiment on a global scale...

Just checked my can of "Premium Stop & Shop Albacore Tuna." It's from Thailand, which is a fair distance from Japan. But who knows exactly where the fishing grounds of the tuna actually are? Yes, I agree -- we are all now guinea pigs.

34 posted on 07/23/2013 10:01:40 AM PDT by USS Johnston (Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be bought at the price of chains & slavery? - Patrick Henry)
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To: laplata
I’d bet that all the food Rush eats is organic.

Yup. I'd take that same bet. None of the elites eat what we silly serfs eat. When was the last time Rush railed on about "GMOs" and "Monsanto"? I assume it was....NEVER.

35 posted on 07/23/2013 10:06:52 AM PDT by USS Johnston (Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be bought at the price of chains & slavery? - Patrick Henry)
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To: USS Johnston

Yup. I’d take that same bet. None of the elites eat what we silly serfs eat. When was the last time Rush railed on about “GMOs” and “Monsanto”? I assume it was....NEVER.


NEVER is the correct answer.

Rush has had a Chef for years. I remember hearing him talk about his Chef many years ago.


36 posted on 07/23/2013 10:25:58 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds are diseased.)
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To: 1010RD

You know that there is no comparison, medically, between the radiation in a banana (radioactive potassium) and the radiation detected in fish, right?
The radiation in a banana is harmless, the body can handle it. The radiation in the fish is not harmless and the human body will not handle it the same way.
Further that was just a few months after the Fukushima disaster - they have continued to flush radioactive waste into the ocean nonstop. ALso, there are 700 structures filled with radioactive water on the Fukushima site, they are not earthquake sound and currently contain very high amounts of radioactive water - if they fail in an earthquake, all that will go into the ocean too.


37 posted on 07/23/2013 11:16:34 AM PDT by ransomnote
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To: gunsequalfreedom

I’m guessing the green coming off is from traces of cesium or something? I’d think you’d want to use a real scintillator that responds to actual radiation and not a color reflection. I’ve never heard of this method, do you have a link to how it works? Thanks.


38 posted on 07/23/2013 11:26:36 AM PDT by Monty22002
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To: laplata
Rush has had a Chef for years. I remember hearing him talk about his Chef many years ago.

The man may get it right occasionally, but is totally out of touch with the working man. If Rush truly cared, he'd be railing against Amnesty and exposing its biggest proponents. But he doesn't because....Rush likes his Chef ;-)...and being rich. So he shuts up even when he knows the Republic is crumbling. No longer is he ahead of the curve; he's BEHIND it, brutha.

39 posted on 07/23/2013 12:07:26 PM PDT by USS Johnston (Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be bought at the price of chains & slavery? - Patrick Henry)
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To: USS Johnston

The man may get it right occasionally, but is totally out of touch with the working man. If Rush truly cared, he’d be railing against Amnesty and exposing its biggest proponents. But he doesn’t because....Rush likes his Chef ;-)...and being rich. So he shuts up even when he knows the Republic is crumbling. No longer is he ahead of the curve; he’s BEHIND it, brutha.


Rush won’t tell it like it is. None of the “conservative” elites will. They will make little noises but won’t cross the line. It’s all a game and most people continue to fall for it......and Rush continues to enjoy what his Chef prepares for lunch.


40 posted on 07/23/2013 12:24:14 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds are diseased.)
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