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Congressional panels approve arms aid to Syrian opposition
Washington Post ^ | July 22, 2013 | By Karen DeYoung

Posted on 07/23/2013 12:10:32 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee

The House and Senate intelligence committees have approved CIA weapons shipments to opposition fighters in Syria, allowing the Obama administration to move ahead on the stalled program, senior congressional and administration officials said Monday.

Despite ongoing “very strong concerns about the strength of the administration’s plans in Syria and its chances for success,” the House committee reached consensus “after much discussion and review,” Chairman Mike Rogers (R-Mich.) said in a statement.

Both the House and Senate panels voted on the administration’s plan last week, officials said.

The agreement allows money already in the CIA’s budget to be reprogrammed for the Syria operation, a covert action that President Obama approved early last month. The infrastructure for the program, which also includes training, logistics and intelligence assistance — most of it based in Jordan — is already in place and the arms would begin to flow within the next several weeks. . .

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1 posted on 07/23/2013 12:10:32 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee
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To: Brad from Tennessee

This is NUTS... the GOP is dead to me !!!


2 posted on 07/23/2013 12:12:21 AM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Bad idea.

Quite aside from all other factors, there is the fact that they are on the losing side. That is not the side one wants to back. The Syrian opposition is very disunited, and so never can succeed. Not unless someone else comes in to fight the war for them, like in Libya.


3 posted on 07/23/2013 12:13:02 AM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Nothing says “we love you” like arming people who hate us. :)


4 posted on 07/23/2013 12:16:26 AM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Senate Select Committee on Intelligence

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/committees/SLIN

House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/committees/HLIG


5 posted on 07/23/2013 12:18:53 AM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Java4Jay

Don’t be surprised when Assad launches his payback against US interests

There is no reason to be involved in this conflict


6 posted on 07/23/2013 12:28:43 AM PDT by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: Java4Jay

So the GOP-e, the political Judenrats for the MarxoFascists - have rubber-stamped Obama’s demand that we arm Al Qaeda’s allies in Syria.

Treason.

Our entire Federal Government is now in-league with our avowed Jihadist enemies against We The people, of whom they killed 3,000 on 9-11 and thousands of our troops and civilians since we decided to fight back.

Anyone still stupid enough to think Obama is not a Trojan Horse for Jihadist Islam and every enemy America ever had??

He plans to walk with our enemies on top of our ashes to survey the slaves he leaves alive.


7 posted on 07/23/2013 1:02:55 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

So does this fit into the Al Qaeda prison break in Iraq? Are we going to arm Al Qaeda fighters headed from Iraq into neighboring Syria to fight Assad?

...are there any sane adults in DC to stop this madness??


8 posted on 07/23/2013 1:07:04 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

wow.

we need an opposition party in this country


9 posted on 07/23/2013 1:12:18 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Brad from Tennessee
The House and Senate intelligence committees have approved CIA weapons shipments to opposition fighters in Syria,

I now think the government is utterly incapable of doing the right thing. Perhaps this has been true for a long time.

10 posted on 07/23/2013 1:14:43 AM PDT by Mark17 (A creepy a$$ cracker, retiring in the Philippines)
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To: BlackVeil

Part of arming the rebels- more like invaders- is uniting them by only arming the strongest faction, AQ and starving the rest or paying them to accept AQ command.


11 posted on 07/23/2013 1:55:10 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

How many of those weapons will end up being used against Western interests in terror attacks? Ironic justice would be for a CODEL to be shot down with the same weapons.


12 posted on 07/23/2013 1:55:50 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Tzimisce

The Moslem-in-Chief is arming his people and his minions in Congress are expediting the project.


13 posted on 07/23/2013 1:56:26 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
The CIA to arm Al CIA Duh? Duh!

We've been doing it for at least 4 decades now.

This would explain our "training exercises" coinciding with their attack schedule!

14 posted on 07/23/2013 2:12:59 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall With no one to raise him up; And I will set)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Nearly a year later and the stupid politicians responsible for the Benghazi "Fast and Furious" gun running operation to the New Syrian Army are back in business again, but this time we're making it public? WTF? Are these politicians on LSD or some other hallucinogen? Let the bloody Muslims kill each other; that's what they've done for 1,400 years -- when they weren't killing everyone else as Infidels!
15 posted on 07/23/2013 2:21:11 AM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: MasterGunner01

SECRET program to arm the rebels.... which rebels?
they are fighting each other


16 posted on 07/23/2013 2:24:33 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL
Good point. Trust the CIA to arm the worst of the worst of the worst. Yes, the CIA folks are THAT stupid. Of course, the people to be armed by the CIA will be determined by Obozo and his real “brain”, Valerie Jarrett.
17 posted on 07/23/2013 2:51:44 AM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Next, it will be boots on the ground. These people never quit.


18 posted on 07/23/2013 3:23:50 AM PDT by gotribe (Vladimir Putin is MY President)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Brilliant!

Furlough nurses at Walter Reed, stealing 20% of their pay, but give more Billions to the Muslim murderers.



19 posted on 07/23/2013 3:35:52 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Pay attention folks. This is exactly what will happen if Immigration “Reform” gets to committee.


20 posted on 07/23/2013 5:30:09 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Not very intelligent at all.


21 posted on 07/23/2013 5:35:41 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

The way these idiots in DC are going the final battle on the plains of Megiddo will come to existence.

Seems the idiots are giving in to the Islamic belief in the 12th Imam. Just wonder how much has been given to each of the Congress Critters to aid in the destruction of the USA by the Islamic controllers.

I had a shock when driving through Green Bay on Velp Avenue Islamic Society of Wisconsin. What the heck?


22 posted on 07/23/2013 6:01:36 AM PDT by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: Brad from Tennessee

So it’s legal for Congress to help Al Qaeda? But if someone else does it, they go to jail?


23 posted on 07/23/2013 6:36:36 AM PDT by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Dumb. Dumber. Dumbest.


24 posted on 07/23/2013 6:50:56 AM PDT by Timocrat (Ingnorantia non excusat)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

All the people I hang out with think the US should take a hands-off approach to the civil war in Syria. The problem is across the border in Iran. That is where our attention needs to be!


25 posted on 07/23/2013 7:04:17 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee; annieokie; penelopesire; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; thouworm; ...
If we don't somehow wrest control from these maniacs, the world is going to burn. This us the craziest thing I can imagine right now.

Anyone wanting on or off this ping list, please advise.


Benghazi Index

26 posted on 07/23/2013 7:05:03 AM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work, You gotta earn them.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
So much for the "war on terror," huh?

11+ years after people lept to their deaths from the WTC, we're about to arm Al Qaeda in Syria. (Don't believe a word of this "arming moderates" nonsense; even the more moderate FSA want an Islamic state, as US war planners are fully aware, and all weapons will end up in AQ hands anyway).

Makes you wonder if the whole "WOT" wasn't a crock to begin with.

27 posted on 07/23/2013 7:11:30 AM PDT by JCBontheloose
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To: BlackVeil
The Syrian opposition is very disunited, and so never can succeed. Not unless someone else comes in to fight the war for them, like in Libya.

The warmongers are working on that.

Keep an eye out for more illogical tales of chemical weapons use by the regime "on a small scale" in irrelevant battles, killing a handful of people.

28 posted on 07/23/2013 7:11:30 AM PDT by JCBontheloose
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To: INVAR
Anyone still stupid enough to think Obama is not a Trojan Horse for Jihadist Islam and every enemy America ever had??

It's not Obama - it's the usual warmongers of the political establishment, both Dem and GOP.

They have their marching orders to weaken Iran and Hezbollah and they'll do as they're told even if that means arming Al Qaeda.

29 posted on 07/23/2013 7:11:30 AM PDT by JCBontheloose
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
So it’s legal for Congress to help Al Qaeda? But if someone else does it, they go to jail?

Notice also how concerned western government are about their Muslim citizens going off to fight in Syria for fear that they'll return "radicalized," while at the same time supporting the same people on the battlefield once they get there.

30 posted on 07/23/2013 7:11:30 AM PDT by JCBontheloose
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Way to endear us to Russia, there, Congress.

Idiots.


31 posted on 07/23/2013 7:15:17 AM PDT by Darnright ("I don't trust liberals, I trust conservatives." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: MestaMachine

What better way for Obama to shift the blame when the truth finally comes out about Benghazi? If he and warmonger McCain succeed in going to war in Syria, Obama can say that ‘everything’ we have done in running guns to Syria from Libya and to AQ terrorists, was a ‘bi-partisan’ effort. McCain has been in on this treasonous activity from the beginning.

As long as McCain is leading the GOP in the senate....we will never get the truth about Benghazi IMHO.

It is the rinos and GOPe that make me feel the most hopeless that we can ever get our country back on the right track. Every time we turn around, they are protecting and supporting the very people they should be fighting, exposing and impeaching.


32 posted on 07/23/2013 7:31:06 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: MestaMachine

Isn’t there ANY REAL OPPOSITION in Congress?

ARMING JIHADIS?? Rs voting for this?

I am going to vomit.


33 posted on 07/23/2013 7:53:19 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Assad’s a no-good, murderous barbarian monster.

His opposition’s worse.

So, of course, the oppostion is what The Won supports.


34 posted on 07/23/2013 7:56:10 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Obama’s Fast and Furious on steroids, and congress approves. Figures.


35 posted on 07/23/2013 7:59:01 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

“So it’s legal for Congress to help Al Qaeda?”

Yes, and these same idiots are trying like crazy to disarm Americans.


36 posted on 07/23/2013 8:00:13 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: JCBontheloose

That logic makes no sense when considering Obama also armed the Muslim Brotherhood and fostered the Islamic takeovers of Libya and Egypt.


37 posted on 07/23/2013 8:05:43 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: INVAR

Obama allowed for the MB take-over of Egypt because the alternative was telling the army to massacre the people in Tahrir Square.

Allowing for the fall of Mubarek, elections, and trying to work with the MB (while maintaining relations with the army) was seen as the best way to manage the situation. Sure enough, the army coup’d the Brothers, putting Egypt right back to square one.

As for Libya, it provided a welcome distraction from all the US-backed regimes under threat at the time (especially Yemen and Bahrain) since Ghadaffi was deemed more expendable than the other two, and had a small, weak regime (even then it took 6 months for the rebels to win even with air support).

Al Qaeda is more strong and present in Syria than anywhere else in the world right now, and there is NO reason for the US to support the Islamists in Syria other than to weaken Iran and Hezbollah. No reason at all.


38 posted on 07/23/2013 11:03:26 AM PDT by JCBontheloose
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To: Brad from Tennessee
The House and Senate intelligence committees have approved CIA weapons shipments to opposition fighters in Syria, allowing the Obama administration to move ahead on the stalled program, senior congressional and administration officials said Monday.

Arming combatants actively engaged in War, especially a foreign backed invasion by mercenaries and terrorists, is an Act of War. Doesn't the full CONgress have to declare war first before the President can act?

39 posted on 07/23/2013 11:10:03 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto
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To: JCBontheloose
>Makes you wonder if the whole "WOT" wasn't a crock to begin with. "

Not a crock. A deception.

2_thessalonians/2-11
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

The word IS a two edged sword!

Just because they have been deceived, doesn't mean we haven't been deceived also!
Remember with whom we are dealing here! The father of all lies and a murderer from the beginning.

40 posted on 07/23/2013 12:26:28 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall With no one to raise him up; And I will set)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

Arming combatants actively engaged in War, especially a foreign backed invasion by mercenaries and terrorists, is an Act of War. Doesn’t the full CONgress have to declare war first before the President can act?


I want to know too!


41 posted on 07/23/2013 12:56:20 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: JCBontheloose

Unless you understood that Obama if fulfilling an Islamic prophecy in engendering what Islamists understand as a ‘John-The -Baptist’ forerunner to the Mahdi or 12th Imam.

He is almost single-handedly attempting to restore the Ottoman empire in the North - and a Sunni Arab Caliphate in the South at the same time.

The ONLY strategy Obama applies, is whatever hurts America and aids Jihadists.

Period. Obama STARTED the Arab Spring protests in Egypt, Libya and elsewhere.


42 posted on 07/23/2013 1:22:05 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: INVAR
Obama's a dolt and a liar, but how exactly how did he start the protests?

Did he offer money to hundreds of thousands of people in several countries in exchange for them protesting and getting shot down in the streets by regimes they actually liked?

Did he try to arrange for the overthrow of US allies in Bahrain (home of the 5th Fleet) before changing his mind by backing the Saudi intervention?

Makes no sense.

Unless you understood that Obama if fulfilling an Islamic prophecy in engendering what Islamists understand as a ‘John-The -Baptist’ forerunner to the Mahdi or 12th Imam.

Only the Shiite Muslims believe that whole 12th Imam story and Obama hasn't backed Shiites in the Arab Spring. He allowed them to be crushed in Bahrain and he's currently working with Al Qaeda to defeat them in Syria.

In other words, your theory would better apply to George W. Bush who ousted a Sunni regime in Iraq and allowed the Shiites to take power and link up with Iran.

Was Bush trying to arrange for the return of the 12th Imam? Or could it be that he was intervening in a region he didn't understand, just like every other US President?

43 posted on 07/24/2013 6:41:51 AM PDT by JCBontheloose
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To: JCBontheloose
Obama's a dolt and a liar, but how exactly how did he start the protests?

Cairo Speech - then William Ayers and other Marxist 'Organizers" went to Egypt to 'organize'.

You also need to stop thinking like a stupid American and start thinking like a Jihadist. They embrace death. Any 'go' signal is the cassus belli to act. Obama signaling to the Muslim Brotherhood that he would support their ouster of Mubarak (same with Ghadaffi and Assad BTW) is all it took.

As to Islamic prophecy - the Shia have their 12th Imam and the Sunni have their Mahdi. BOTH envision an Islamic global caliphate. They simply differ on which 'denomination' gets to run it once they destroy the Great and Little Satan.

44 posted on 07/24/2013 9:02:57 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: INVAR
Believe it or not, Arabs are quite capable of organizing their own protests without the white man (or black man, as it were) doing it for them.

As I recall, the Cairo speech said nothing about Islamist rule, and I really doubt that William Ayers could organize hundreds of thousands in Tahrir Sq given that he failed to do the same at home as a Weatherman. You're giving him far too much credit.

Any 'go' signal is the cassus belli to act.

Islamists have been staging terror attacks and trying to seize power in the Arab world for decades. They've never needed a Washington before and they don't need one now.

Believe it or not, the US doesn't actually micromanage everything that goes on in the world.

45 posted on 07/24/2013 9:53:34 AM PDT by JCBontheloose
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To: JCBontheloose

Right- Obama had nothing to do with the ‘Arab Spring’.

Clueless.


46 posted on 07/24/2013 10:00:22 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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