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Pet wolf shot by police during foot chase
Dayton Daily News ^ | July 23, 2013 | Breaking News Staff

Posted on 07/23/2013 5:36:17 AM PDT by Deadeye Division

RIVERSIDE —

A wolf was shot by a police officer during a pursuit through backyards early this morning.

A Riverside police officer was running information on two juveniles he had stopped when one of the teens, who had an outstanding warrant, fled from the scene on foot, said police.

Law enforcement officials from Huber Heights, MetroParks and Wright-Patterson Air Force Base were called in as back up to help locate the individual.

During the pursuit, a Riverside officer hopped a fence into the back yard of a home on Norman Boulevard where he saw the teen enter. When the officer looked up he was face-to-face with a wolf, said police.

The officer said he had no choice but to shoot after the animal lunged at him. The wolf was injured but did not sustain any fatal wounds, according to reports.

The juvenile-on-the-run, a 14-year-old male, was found hiding under a van in the back of the property. He was taken in to custody and was transported to the Montgomery County Juvenile Detention Center, said police.

The owners of the wolf were going to take their pet to be evaluated by a veterinarian, according to reports.


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1 posted on 07/23/2013 5:36:17 AM PDT by Deadeye Division
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To: Deadeye Division

There are some things that you just don’t put up with, regardless of the consequences. If somebody, anybody, uniformed or no, jumps into my backyard and starts shooting, I will immediately engage that person with aimed fire.


2 posted on 07/23/2013 5:48:28 AM PDT by jboot (It can happen here because it IS happening here.)
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To: Deadeye Division

How did the teen get in the yard and hide without needing to shoot the wolf?


3 posted on 07/23/2013 5:51:41 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Deadeye Division; Joe 6-pack

Pet wolf ping


4 posted on 07/23/2013 5:52:10 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Deadeye Division

Wright Patterson air force base?

Helped pursue a teenager???


5 posted on 07/23/2013 5:53:06 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: Joe 6-pack

Dogs and wolfs don’t go after criminals. They only go after armed cops. /s


6 posted on 07/23/2013 5:56:14 AM PDT by PrairieLady2
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7 posted on 07/23/2013 5:56:43 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Deadeye Division

A pet wolf? Is that even legal?


8 posted on 07/23/2013 5:59:21 AM PDT by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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To: Theo

WDTN report:

http://www.wdtn.com/dpp/news/local/montgomery/wdtn-officer-shoots-pet-wolf-teen-arrested


9 posted on 07/23/2013 6:00:31 AM PDT by Deadeye Division
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To: jboot

Officer shoots pet wolf, teen arrested

Updated: Tuesday, 23 Jul 2013, 6:28 AM EDT
Published : Tuesday, 23 Jul 2013, 4:53 AM EDT
Brooke Moore

RIVERSIDE, Ohio (WDTN) - During a chase involving a teenage boy, a Riverside officer was forced to fire his weapon at one family’s pet wolf early Tuesday morning.

Officials took the teen into custody just after 2:00 a.m.

Sgt. Rett Close told us the teenage suspect was being questioned near a vacant home after officials said he and a friend appeared suspicious.

The suspect gave the officer false information, and when the official went back to the cruiser to check it out— the teen took off running.

Sgt. Close said the jumped a fence and hid behind a garage.

Police surrounded a home near Norman Boulevard and Springfield Street.

As Sgt. Close was searching for the suspect in the backyard, he said he was backed into a corner and forced to shoot the wolf.

He said it is legal for the family to own the pet because it’s a wolf/dog hybrid.

From the back of a cruiser, the teen Sgt. Close had been chasing told us he knew he was in trouble when he gave the officer a fake name, “I seen the look on his face, he was about to pull me over. He was about to arrest me, so I took off. Then I took off again. I guess they had to shoot a dog or something. I feel bad for that, but man.”

No word on how severe the animal’s injuries were.

The teen said he has warrants for missing a court appearance. He now faces charges with Riverside police


10 posted on 07/23/2013 6:03:40 AM PDT by Deadeye Division
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To: jboot
If somebody, anybody, uniformed or no, jumps into my backyard and starts shooting, I will immediately engage that person with aimed fire.

Exactly. For all you know that's a costume and his shooting your pet is the opening move of an armed and hostile home invasion.

There is a loaded AR within arms reach of me as I type this - with a mix of ball, HP, and LAP rounds in it. If I heard gunfire in the back yard I'd use it. If the person was lucky they would be facing away from me when I engaged - I might, might give them one chance to drop their weapon. However, if I were in their line of fire and/or they refused to obey commands immediately ... shoot center mass until you run dry or the target is down.

11 posted on 07/23/2013 6:07:00 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: jboot

Whatever, enjoy prison.


12 posted on 07/23/2013 6:07:27 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: ThunderSleeps
Without revealing too much about my security arrangements I will say that I have plenty of options, good cover, good fields of fire, and I don't use pistols, shotguns, or rifles with a caliber less than 0.30 for home defense.

And all my bullets have glossy little black tips on them just in case the threat has a "tough hide".

13 posted on 07/23/2013 6:11:51 AM PDT by jboot (It can happen here because it IS happening here.)
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To: Resolute Conservative
Whatever, enjoy prison.

So says the serf. In my world some things are worth sacrificing for.

14 posted on 07/23/2013 6:13:36 AM PDT by jboot (It can happen here because it IS happening here.)
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To: Deadeye Division
So what was this teen wanted for? Murder? Rape? Armed Robbery? Home Invasion?

Or skipping school?

One you chase. The other you don't.

And since the cop jumped over the fence couldn't he jump right back out faster then he could draw his gun, aim and shoot?

Or was he running after the teen with gun drawn?

15 posted on 07/23/2013 6:20:51 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Revenge is a dish best served with pinto beans and muffins)
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To: jboot

A real man would try to figure out how to help a cop who is hot pursuit.

And I don’t mean by being a Rambo. There are many ways; being a good witness for instance.

Or getting out of the way.

Posts such as yours are a discredit to all of the intelligent, sane gun owners.

An LEO in hot pursuit is allowed to pursue with no restrictions even if the bad guy enters your house.

Of course to be legal it must be hot pursuit, not “I think he might be in there.”

Your post is that of a fool.


16 posted on 07/23/2013 6:30:01 AM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: jboot

Mine too, but I don’t think firing on a uniformed officer chasing a fleeing suspect is worth the sacrifice and I dare say a jury would not either, even here in Texas. Maybe a few moments of situational awareness before pulling your trigger is prudent.


17 posted on 07/23/2013 6:33:58 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: old curmudgeon
How do I know that the black-dressed ninja shooting up my property, pets or family is a LEO? Moreover, if someone busts down my door without warning I'm going to defend my home.

In America, the police respected private property. They always identified themselves. They did not use lethal force as a first resort. They acted and dressed like officers of the law. They earned and kept the respect of the citizenry. That country and those police are gone, but one way or the other I will not live in a police state. Posts like yours are a discredit to those of us who choose not to live as subjects in thrall of our masters.

18 posted on 07/23/2013 6:42:22 AM PDT by jboot (It can happen here because it IS happening here.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

How would I or any other homeowner be expected to know any of that, or even glean it from the situation? It is not as if this policeman identified himself, contacted the property owner or anything like that. He just hopped a fence and started shooting stuff. If some black-clad ninja comes around shooting up my property I will defend it.


19 posted on 07/23/2013 6:46:47 AM PDT by jboot (It can happen here because it IS happening here.)
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To: jboot

Ok. Carry on...


20 posted on 07/23/2013 6:50:59 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: jboot

I can’t leave it, he didn’t just hop the friggin’ fence, he was in pursuit and by stopping to chat you up he loses the perp, who by the way was hiding on your property. Then after said cop leaves because he knows he lost perp, the perp then waits until you come out back and whacks you with a shovel after whacking your dog. BTW, he was in uniform, which would pretty much seal your fate if you shot him in the scenario.

I swear do they not teach gun safety and awareness training anymore? It is the mentality of come out shooting that undermines our fight for the 2nd just as anything else. what for the zombie apocalypse to try out your spray and pray tactics.


21 posted on 07/23/2013 6:59:27 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Deadeye Division

There is no such thing as a “pet” wolf. There may be a “captured” wolf, or even offspring of “captured” wolves, but none of these is a trustworthy “pet”.


22 posted on 07/23/2013 7:02:48 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: Resolute Conservative
Whatever. Don't come onto my property unannounced and start shooting stuff and we won't have any problems.

To me this is simple common sense. But in this brave new country it is apparently considered common sense to lick the boot that stomps on your face. As you say, carry on. But be forewarned that not everyone is "on board."

23 posted on 07/23/2013 7:12:51 AM PDT by jboot (It can happen here because it IS happening here.)
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To: jboot
If somebody, anybody, uniformed or no, jumps into my backyard and starts shooting, I will immediately engage that person with aimed fire.

Especially if they are shooting at my dog in my yard!

24 posted on 07/23/2013 7:17:36 AM PDT by GBA (Our obamanation: Romans 1:18-32)
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To: old curmudgeon
A real man would try to figure out how to help a cop who is hot pursuit.

Yea, go outside and shoot the rest of your own dogs.
25 posted on 07/23/2013 7:22:20 AM PDT by ZX12R (Never forget the heroes of Benghazi, who were abandoned to their deaths by Obama)
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To: jboot

No we aren’t.


26 posted on 07/23/2013 7:26:39 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Deadeye Division
I had a similar situation occur a couple of years ago involving my local police (in Arizona at the time), dogs, and “runaway suspects.” No animals were harmed in the following events.

Specifically, one night about 2:30AM in the morning our doorbell rang. Needless to say both my wife and I sat up in bed now completely awake and very much alarmed. Likewise, both of our German Shepherds (per their usual habit), went ballistic as they ran to the door barking.

I retrieve my nightstand .40S&W and proceeded to the front door. Looking out of the window next to the door I see three police officers and police dog standing on the porch.

I gave them the “one moment please” signal and my wife got our dogs under control. I opened the door a crack, advised the officers I was armed and that our GSD’s were in their crates. I then opened the door fully to find out what they wanted at 2:30AM in the morning.

One officer proceeded to tell me that they were after a burglary suspect who was last seen jumping fences in to the backyards of our neighborhood. He then ask PERMISSION if they could search our backyard. I said “Of course.” I also warned them that there was a long “fatal funnel” on the one side of our home between the house and garden shed and to be careful. The officer said something to the effect that they would send the police canine through first. I opened my side garage door so they could get into the backyard. They said “thank you” and proceeded into our backyard.

After they had searched our backyard, they closed our gate and went on down the street to the next home.

Much politeness and courtesy on both sides, and no fatalities among anyone’s dog(s).

27 posted on 07/23/2013 7:27:22 AM PDT by Towed_Jumper (What does it mean to be declared "guilty" in a nation without the rule of law?)
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To: Deadeye Division
Shooting an "Endangered Species" has legal repercussions. I don't care much for the Endangered Species Act (ESA), but I love wolves and wolf hybrids and have had them for pets.
They're outstanding animals, very loyal, and very loving, but also very expensive in more ways than one.

Sue the police, and teach them not to do this again.
Hurt them in their wallet!
28 posted on 07/23/2013 7:35:05 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

see post #10


29 posted on 07/23/2013 7:39:10 AM PDT by Deadeye Division
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To: Deadeye Division
Says that he failed to appear in court.

That could be anything from truancy to murder in the first.

30 posted on 07/23/2013 7:42:38 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Revenge is a dish best served with pinto beans and muffins)
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To: ZX12R

Might be smarter to just get them in the house and under control.

I know dogs can get very excited and hard to manage under such circumstances but a little obedience training, which very few people will do will go a long way to keep things under control.


31 posted on 07/23/2013 7:46:35 AM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: Towed_Jumper

A knock on the door and proper identification are really all the courtesy that is needed. It sounds like your PD handled the situation very professionally. This story is how it used to work everywhere. Where I grew up we had a lot of woodland searches, complete with helicopters with searchlights. The police were always 100% respectful of property owners and they never caused any damage. Heck, they’d even secure the fence gates behind them so the livestock would stay put. I can imagine what one of those situations would be like if it went down here today. It would look like a war, and there would be fences down and fields torn up. That would be all, if we were lucky.


32 posted on 07/23/2013 7:47:00 AM PDT by jboot (It can happen here because it IS happening here.)
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To: Deadeye Division

Shoot cops that shoot pets.


33 posted on 07/23/2013 7:54:41 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Refuse; Resist; Rebel; Revolt!)
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To: old curmudgeon
Might be smarter to just get them in the house and under control.

It would be smarter for police to simply not trespass into fenced yards, especially if you're such a sissy that you can't handle the behavior of a dog without shooting it. I don't particularly care about actual trespass by law enforcement, but they had better do it responsibly enough that it doesn't lead to the death of my best friend. Personally, I simply have no use for law enforcement. I don't like them at all these days, and I will avoid all contact with them if possible.

Where I live, I have three 70 lbs red nosed pits and a 100 lbs doberman, that have immediate access to the fenced yard. Their job is to severely injure anyone that sets foot inside my fenced property at night, officer or otherwise.
34 posted on 07/23/2013 8:02:43 AM PDT by ZX12R (Never forget the heroes of Benghazi, who were abandoned to their deaths by Obama)
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To: old curmudgeon
An LEO in hot pursuit is allowed to pursue with no restrictions even if the bad guy enters your house.

If we still are a Constitutional Republic, no one has the right to come onto your property and shoot your pets, members of your family. A "real man" would know that by definition.

Can an officer in hot pursuit crash his/her vehicle into other vehicles, bystanders, those in crosswalks, jaywalkers or do their rights somehow get in the way of that LEO's in hot pursuit rights to that win at all costs?

How much damage is okay until you've crossed the line and you're just as bad as or worse than the perp you're chasing?

It really is how you play the game, especially once you realize the game is just a test.

35 posted on 07/23/2013 8:16:28 AM PDT by GBA (Our obamanation: Romans 1:18-32)
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To: jboot

Sovreign alert!!


36 posted on 07/23/2013 8:22:52 AM PDT by bike800
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To: Yosemitest

I had a wolf/shepard mix, female.

Friendliest, most gentile animal I ever had. Couldn’t keep her fenced in. Put six foot fencing in the back yard.

She came back with duck, baby pigs and every other thing under the sun.

One day, she didn’t come back. Figured a farmer killed her.


37 posted on 07/23/2013 8:53:09 AM PDT by bobo1 (the KDE plasma desktop is awesome!)
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To: bobo1
I've had 3; 2 died of skin problems at about 4 to 5 years old, and 1 got stolen, because he enjoyed car rides, and he accidentally got out of the house one morning.
I tracked him to where his foot prints dissappeared on a dirt road next to car tracts.
I really miss him.
38 posted on 07/23/2013 9:00:14 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: old curmudgeon

Agreed.

I get sick of all the bravado big talk on these dog threads, and any other time the poster could utilize a firearm.

Amazing all this big talk yet hardly any such stories of some big walker doing so and making the news, as a result.


39 posted on 07/23/2013 9:10:13 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Deadeye Division

I hope the wolf recovers completely. I worry about my wolf looking dog. He likes everyone and every animal, but he can look ferocious. I don’t want him around any vicious cops.


40 posted on 07/23/2013 9:15:58 AM PDT by pallis
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To: ZX12R

If you were a real man, you would need only one dog that barks at night at anyone who approaches your house or enters your yard.

All of those dogs don’t give you balls.

People like you are the reason so many nice pets get shot.


41 posted on 07/23/2013 9:23:21 AM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: Yosemitest

As far as gentle, much more so than a german shepard I had in my youth.


42 posted on 07/23/2013 9:23:42 AM PDT by bobo1 (the KDE plasma desktop is awesome!)
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To: Towed_Jumper

A bit different.

Yours was in the process of looking for the guy, not quite knowing where he might be.

This story today is a cop right behind the suspect with his eye on him.

Otherwise, yes I agree.


43 posted on 07/23/2013 9:25:47 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: bobo1
My "Dusty" was 18 months old when he (it) was stolen, and he loved to run, at full speed.
When he was three months old, he had one flopped ear. But when I got him home, and took him for a walk on a lease in the woods, that flopped ear perked up, and stayed up.
Oh man, do I miss him.
He loved the woods, and after a few months, I could release him and he'd come when we called him.
Someone stole one excellent and rare pet!
44 posted on 07/23/2013 9:28:59 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: old curmudgeon; ZX12R
People like you are the reason so many nice pets get shot.

I have six dogs so am I even more of the reason nice pets get shot? Or perhaps, do I just love dogs?

45 posted on 07/23/2013 9:30:17 AM PDT by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: old curmudgeon
If you were any kind of man, you wouldn't wear your master's chains, and live your life for their sake, little boy.
46 posted on 07/23/2013 9:30:40 AM PDT by ZX12R (Never forget the heroes of Benghazi, who were abandoned to their deaths by Obama)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
Amazing all this big talk yet hardly any such stories of some big walker doing so and making the news, as a result.

A lot of people talk about the big Power Ball Lotteries but how many people talk about actually winning it?

How do you know these people will not back up what they say but simply haven't had the situation forced upon them?

Could it be you projecting your lack of courage?

47 posted on 07/23/2013 9:32:48 AM PDT by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: GBA

I have no use for bad cops, the rambo type.

What you describe is not at all the same situation that happened in the case posted here.

In this case, the cop saw the kid climb the fence and knew he was there.

So the property owner actually had already been invaded by the kid.

And for all of the big mouths posting here about how they will fill cops full of holes that trespass, it should be pointed out that trespass is not a defence against prosecution for killing.

In most jurisdictions, even the commission of a crime on your property other than a crime involving rape or attempted murder, is not a defence against prosecution for murder/killing.


48 posted on 07/23/2013 9:33:42 AM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: norwaypinesavage

The best dog I ever loved was part wolf. It looked like a big husky, and was more loving, thoughtful, perceptive, and aware than any other dog I ever owned. It might as well have been human - and good human at that.

I knew a guy who had a 100% wolf which was just like an old, lazy labrador. Sweet animal, and huge.

That said, you’d be right a lot of times. Some wolves are rough to own, some people just don’t jibe with wolves, almost nobody knows how to train them, and combined, I’d reccomend the average Joe just get an AKC breed, or an easy going mutt from the pound. But you can’t throw all wolves in the same group. They can be as different from each other as people.


49 posted on 07/23/2013 9:38:04 AM PDT by AnonymousConservative (Why did Liberals evolve within our species? www.anonymousconservative.com)
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To: Yosemitest

I feel for you. A wolf makes a great pet, despite what some on the forum disagree.


50 posted on 07/23/2013 9:43:10 AM PDT by bobo1 (the KDE plasma desktop is awesome!)
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