Skip to comments.The Hookup Hoax. The new brainwashing: Liberated women love casual, meaningless sex.
Posted on 07/23/2013 7:51:36 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Noting the comeback campaigns of Eliot Spitzer and Anthony Weiner in New York, feminist author Hanna Rosin wonders why 50 years into the sexual revolution women politicians lag so far behind men in the sex-scandal tally. She notes biological and evolutionary explanations only to reject them in favor of the idea that women are just too unused to power to abuse it in that way. Shes cheered, though, by surveys showing that younger women are cheating on their spouses almost as much as men, and confidently looks forward to the not-too-distant day when well find ourselves willing to look past the indiscretions of women philanderers too.
Welcome to the feminist paradise, where the ideal is for women to model themselves not just on men, but on the worst men.
Fifty years ago, Betty Friedan, a restless Marxist, published The Feminine Mystique. Its premise was that women were miserable in the comfortable concentration camp of domestic life but were too brainwashed to know it. The job of feminism was to raise the consciousness of these benighted dupes. Friedans timing was felicitous. The U.S. economy was expanding dramatically, labor-saving devices had made housework much less time-consuming, and technological progress was making brain work more valuable than physical strength in the marketplace. Friedan and her many acolytes were pushing on an open door.
But they pushed in the wrong direction. Not satisfied with encouraging women to pursue careers and correcting legal barriers to womens equality, feminists sought nothing less than the obliteration of family life and traditional sexual mores. The double standard in matters of sex, they taught, favored men. The solution was promiscuity for everyone (enabled by unrestricted abortion).
It was a foolish and self-defeating wrong turn.
Fifty years on, we have this dispatch from the University of Pennsylvania: Sex on Campus: She Can Play That Game Too, a New York Times account of the way women at one Ivy League school are supposedly hooking up in preference to having relationships. Its not that the sexual revolution actually favored men, the Times reassures its readers, its just that women are too focused on careers to make time for men. They pursue sex with hookup buddies without a flicker of regret.
This is the new brainwashing. Women have been sold (and sold and sold) on the notion that happiness and fulfillment are to be found in careers. Marriage and children are items to be calendared after the M.B.A., J.D., or Ph.D. Sex is recreation. Getting attached to the human being behind the sex organ can limit your internship options.
Cheerleading articles like Hanna Rosins 2012 Atlantic piece Boys on the Side argue that, far from enduring the hookup culture, women are enjoying their promiscuous freedom. The New York Times piece is in that mold.
I dont believe it for a second. Neither article bothers to deny what all of the research shows namely, that women get themselves sloppy drunk before they engage in hookups. If casual, anonymous sex is so enjoyable for women, why the need to anesthetize themselves first? And if women are calling the shots, why do men get oral sex in hookups far more often than women do?
The Times piece notes that the hookup culture isnt as widespread as media treatment would suggest. According to a recent survey, 40 percent of college seniors either are virgins or have had sex with only one person. Some student groups, like the Love and Fidelity Network, are self-consciously countercultural. Still, most students must deal with the sexual degradation that is a feature of most campuses. Several women students confessed to the Times that they engaged in hookups only after concluding that waiting for a relationship was unrealistic. Here is one students account of a typical freshman fraternity party:
You go in, and they take you down to a dark basement, Haley, a blond, pink-cheeked senior, recalled of her first frat parties in freshman year. Theres girls dancing in the middle, and theres guys lurking on the sides and then coming and basically pressing their genitals up against you and trying to dance.
Charming. Another girl explained why her encounters in her first two years of college usually ended with fellatio. Early in the evening, shed get very drunk.
By the time she got back to a guys room, she was starting to sober up and didnt want to be there anymore, and giving the guy oral sex was an easy way to wrap things up and leave.
It takes a lot of spin to call that liberation.
Mona Charen is a nationally syndicated columnist.
Soooo, liberated women are dudes?
“Progressives” have been propagandizing women for decades into believing this stuff. TV, movies, magazines,pop culture ... all of it relentlessly trying to pound into women’s heads that to be promiscuous is cool.
At the same time, the so-call traditionalists have been working equally hard to promote the “boys will be boys” meme for excusing away male sexual misbehavior.
Both sides have contributed to this moral morass we are in.
HPV and warts will supply the meaning.
I see nothing wrong with any woman having a zest for living
The hookup culture is beginning to look more and more like the wildly promiscuous male homosexual culture.
Ask any gay man over the age of 25 how satisfying and fulfilling they find the wildly promiscuous male homosexual culture, and how they feel about the things they did when they were younger.
This is not a good road to be on. We know where this road ends, and it is not a place where you want to be.
Damn! I wonder if I can score at college if I go back at 70+? It was never like that when I was there.
As a former flight attendant, I have worked with thousands of women. I have NEVER met one who glorified one night stands. EVER, EVER.
If one talked about having one, it was usually with extreme regret and self loathing.
That being said, DEMOCRAT women might thrive on such self debasing, destructive behavior, but I don’t socialize with them and don’t care how they exterminate themselves through their risky behaviors.
RE: HPV and warts will supply the meaning.
Not to worry, they’ll soon have a vaccine for that... /s
Granted, but it is a very fine line....regardless of gender.
I have long maintained that feminist 'thought' can be summed up as follows: "Men are crude, rude, vulgar, obscene, profane, inconsiderate foul pigs. Let's try to be just like them".
There are a lot of girls out there with "Daddy Issues", but the girl with "Grandpa Issues" is much harder to find...
+2 for the game point if you add "...while simultaneously faulting them for being that way."
If you've ever been party to a conversation among women, they are quite vulgar in their own right.
The shit that women have to put up with: the bleeding, the cramps, child birth... they have their own special sisterhood of crass that often rival men.
The number one sexually transmitted disease in women is depression.
Women were wired to want commitment, love, and romance. Guys just like sex.
I have believed for a long time that the punks from the sixties completely changed our culture. They popularized drug usage, casual sex, shacking up, and disrespect for our history and country. Now they are running the country. I do not see any way to change this.
Are you on the right forum? Fornicating and living in sin is not a “zest for living.” It is traveling 100mph on the highway to hell.
It was exactly like this in the late 60s-early 70’s too, except the evening ended with worries about going blind...
Fire up the DeLorean!
Don't forget "MORE FUNDING FOR AIDS RESEARCH!!!!!".
That is because, in reality, one night stands goes against a woman's nature to nurture.
A woman's role is to bring out the better side of the man she falls in love with and when she is talked into letting a man have his way with her when she is not ready it goes against everything she knows deep down to be true.
I do believe that the push to make women just like horny men begins in middle school sex ed where a girl is taught to let down her natural sense of modesty which was put there by God to protect her. When she has lost that and she is drunk at a party when she is 19, she will act just like a drunk frat guy, thereby fulfilling the wet dreams of "liberated" men-hating women.
the punks from the sixties completely changed our culture....................................... You got that right, and we can thank Hollywood for the intensity of the sexual propaganda. Now they have their own award show for the Porn Industry. Deep Throat was the turning point, it was down hill from there. Sex is has been cheapened, it once meant love, now its just game we play for the thrill. BTW, I’m still 20 yrs old, but I’m wrapped inside this old man’s body and can’t get out of it. :(
Very concise and insightful comment.
I refer to the new culture as an old culture, paganism. The proponents are the neo-pagans. Combine this pattern of sexual behavior with weakening health care services and promoting stress and you will see a reduction in quality of life and possibly life expectancy.
On a lighter note, genealogy research will be almost impossible to do.
It's been said "Men give love to get sex; women give sex to get love".
American society is not healthy, and has not been for a very long time.
Introducing Next Day Wart Away by Ronco!
Promiscuity is as pro-sex as the clap.
They want to be gay guys in women's bodies.
They're all in the nursing homes now....check that out. ;-)
I agree 100%. I am the consummate gentleman around the womenfolk in my family, and when it’s just the guys, we can get crass.
I don’t agree with the idea of a woman being “one of the boys,” but my wife fits that bill well enough. I don’t bother to try to understand the crudity of femininity.
I see nothing wrong with any woman having a zest for living
6 posted on 7/23/2013 10:58:05 AM by al baby (Hi Mom)
Were you intending that to appear as if you were coming on to your mother? ;-)
My wife, who passed away May 30, was a genealogist. Twice each year I had to go work in Utah and she always went with me to do genealogical research.
Poor Germaine. She was always all over the map. She'd say something like "I seek freedom to be a person, with dignity, integrity, nobility, passion, and pride that constitute personhood" --- and then start acting like a pomiscuous moron and moral midget (like a male homosexual) -- and then wonder why she had lifelong problems with deperession and substance abuse.
Sad and disappointing.
I believe it was Bill Clinton and Monica that made Fellatio the way to go.
Right after Bill it started in Middle school.
Of course it’s been around a long time, it’s just that few “good” girl admitted to it.Once sex was mostly just the missionary position during dating and experimenting later on , after marriage. Now anything goes including anal sex, watching girls perform on each other, and multiple partners.
And the follies of youth will lead to the loneliness of later life.
Enjoy it while you can, as “ hookups” are what life is really all about..
The big problem with that is that it means men are incapable of love. When a person views another person as a service utility, that is not love, no matter how he tries to dress it up.
I'm not sure why men would want women to believe them incapable of love, nor why men would want to believe that about themselves. Maybe a man can explain.
And the follies of youth will lead to the loneliness of later life.
Enjoy it while you can, as hookups aren’t what life is really all about..
Fingers typed too fast.... Meant to say aren’t not are.... :) :)
As the article points out, women ought to not only become like men, but the worst kind of men. Only then can they be equal.
Secular humanism, with its denial of ethical and moral absolutes, leads to calls for ethical subjectivism and relativism, and the psychology of self actualization, which leads to moral permissiveness, and experimental lifestyles.Sexual permissiveness and destruction of the traditional family and marriage are the result.
Times change. Usually not for the better it seems.
Those who ascribe to Humanism not only define morality for themselves, but use the Laws of God and traditional morality based on same
as a “counter guideline” as to what should be valued and disdained.
Not true. The old pagans had respect for life, for family, for courage and for decency. Thus C.S. Lewis:
Cliche Came Out of its Cage
You said 'The world is going back to Paganism'.
Oh bright Vision! I saw our dynasty in the bar of the House
Spill from their tumblers a libation to the Erinyes,
And Leavis with Lord Russell wreathed in flowers, heralded with flutes,
Leading white bulls to the cathedral of the solemn Muses
To pay where due the glory of their latest theorem.
Hestia's fire in every flat, rekindled, burned before
The Lardergods. Unmarried daughters with obedient hands
Tended it. By the hearth the white-armd venerable mother
Domum servabat, lanam faciebat. At the hour
Of sacrifice their brothers came, silent, corrected, grave
Before their elders; on their downy cheeks easily the blush
Arose (it is the mark of freemen's children) as they trooped,
Gleaming with oil, demurely home from the palaestra or the dance.
Walk carefully, do not wake the envy of the happy gods,
Shun Hubris. The middle of the road, the middle sort of men,
Are best. Aidos surpasses gold. Reverence for the aged
Is wholesome as seasonable rain, and for a man to die
Defending the city in battle is a harmonious thing.
Thus with magistral hand the Puritan Sophrosyne
Cooled and schooled and tempered our uneasy motions;
Heathendom came again, the circumspection and the holy fears ...
You said it. Did you mean it? Oh inordinate liar, stop.
Or did you mean another kind of heathenry?
Think, then, that under heaven-roof the little disc of the earth,
Fortified Midgard, lies encircled by the ravening Worm.
Over its icy bastions faces of giant and troll
Look in, ready to invade it. The Wolf, admittedly, is bound;
But the bond wil1 break, the Beast run free. The weary gods,
Scarred with old wounds the one-eyed Odin, Tyr who has lost a hand,
Will limp to their stations for the last defence. Make it your hope
To be counted worthy on that day to stand beside them;
For the end of man is to partake of their defeat and die
His second, final death in good company. The stupid, strong
Unteachable monsters are certain to be victorious at last,
And every man of decent blood is on the losing side.
Take as your model the tall women with yellow hair in plaits
Who walked back into burning houses to die with men,
Or him who as the death spear entered into his vitals
Made critical comments on its workmanship and aim.
Are these the Pagans you spoke of? Know your betters and crouch, dogs;
You that have Vichy water in your veins and worship the event
Your goddess History (whom your fathers called the strumpet Fortune).
Makes you just want to go and put a ring on her finger. Right, guys?
For most guys in college, it's still not like that. The "liberated" women are pursuing hookups with a relatively small contingent of desirable males. I would guess 20% of the guys are getting 80% of the interest.
The "alpha males" will readily accept women for sex and a little intimacy, but will be FAR more picky when asked for commitment. I knew such a guy in college: handsome, athletic, smart, later became a successful professional. I talked to him last year, and he was in his 50's and never married.
Meanwhile, the hookup girls spend their 20's chasing the alpha males, wind up hitting 30 and decide to "settle" for some regular guy. They are then disappointed and bitter when the guys are uninterested in their high-mileage selves. (My wife was smart and got me in my 20's).
As they say about incest, casual meaningless sex is better than no sex al all. lol
Personally, I find that type of woman disgusting and hardly worthy of any respect whatsoever.
My solution is to ignore them. However, couple this style of behavior with a demographic of fatherless urban 'yutes' who have no respect for these females either...and who these females seem to idolize...and you get an exponential increase in domestic abuse and outright violence against women.
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