Skip to comments.Shutdown looms over ObamaCare
Posted on 07/23/2013 9:12:12 AM PDT by 80sReaganite
ObamaCare is at the center of a rapidly escalating fight that threatens to shut the government down this fall.
Republicans have tried this maneuver in Obamas first term, only to back off later to the chagrin of Tea Party leaders.
This time, GOP lawmakers are emboldened by problems plaguing the administrations ObamaCare implementation.
(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...
This WOULD be perfect timing for the 2014 elections
GOP will cave again..guaranteed.
I lost all confidence in them and they are doing nothing to rehabilitate their image.
Now, I just think of them (all of them) as a crowd of poseurs and thieves.
What gives you that idea? Just because something has happened every single time in the past does not necessarily mean that it will happen this time.
Maybe the sun won't rise in the morning. Maybe this time socialism will work. Maybe this time the RINOs won't cave.
Shut ‘er down. In every game there’s a moment of opportunity. This is it.
CALL BOEHNER AND MCCONNELL!!!!
This is our LAST CHANCE and they’d BETTER GET IT RIGHT!!!!!
(See: Scott Walker)
The GOP castrati will be singing in soprano harmony long before Traitorobamacare is threatened.
As the adage goes, "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."
It’ll make Boehner’s job too difficult - freakin’ RINO he is.
Unfortunately, that's a good idea.
From another thread, here's a thought from me.
In a way, I'm glad that Chief Justice Roberts let ObamaCare ride on.
Roberts' reasoning was essentially that the Supreme Court doesn't make law.
And so, the makers of the insidious law known as ObamaCare ... a Democrat President, a Democrat dominated Senate, and a Democrat dominated House should be ... will be forever responsible for the MESS they created.
Wow. Your post is super ultra defeatist. Probably the most defeatist I've seen yet (and I've seen a bunch).
You get the medal.
Normally I would say shutdowns are losing propositions. Gingrich clearly lost to Clinton. But given the reason behind this, Obama’s unconstitutional actions in deciding which parts of the law he’ll follow, then I say for the GOP this is the hill to take or die trying. Shut it Down!!!
The GOP will cave, as they are worried that being too hard on Obamacare will cost them Hispanic votes.
“GOP will cave again..guaranteed.”
I’d like to disagree with you............
but I can’t - I am afraid that you are right
Delaying implementation of key parts of the healthcare law and losing the support of labor unions are just the beginning of trouble for Obamacare, says Dr. Ben Carson. "It's gonna be a lot worse than this. This is the beginning of the collapse," the retired Johns Hopkins neurosurgeon said on Fox News Channel's "Your World" on Tuesday. "Usually when you roll out a big program, you roll it out bit by bit. You determine what's working. You can change things," Carson said. "But to try to roll out something this massive without really knowing what the intricacies are is quite foolish." (Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...
Only the deranged twisted mind of a progressive could have dreamed up the h'care mess.
As FReeper Lou L wrote: Shows the mess Ohaha created, and why the WH apparatchiks cannot make it work more than three years after its passage.
Each "box" represents huge organizational beauracracies with people stumbling over themselves; each "arrow" represents hundreds and thousands of information requests and transfers. Those interfaces will have some common calls, but they'll have to be customized to fit each carrier's system and customizations. It seems as though a lot is being left off the "health plan" -- all the costs, all the restrictions, have to be passed along as well.
The thousands of "Navigators"---govt-issue clerks--will offer you "guidance/" And that online calculator...does it tell you how much you're being soaked now, rather than before the saving grace of O'care?=======================================================
Amazingly the lower Rube Goldberg chart is supposed to "simplify and explain" O'care......designed by a consultant group paid to assist in the process of getting states to create exchanges (the ones that interface with 60,000 IRS agents, the strongarm HHS, and an assortment of know-nothing snoopy federal agencies).
But the Supreme Court is duty-bound to strike down unconstitutional law, which DeathCare clearly is. I am tired of judges being too clever by half.
More Doom and Gloom negativity.
This herein lies the problem. If the GOP defunds, doesn’t it become a GOP problem?
Deconstruct the argument that the Republicans have not caved to the Democrats when it mattered. Post facts as to where and when they stood up to the Democrats on issues and sent them running off with their tail between their legs. Cite chapter and verse. Name calling won' get you anywhere with me.
Just for your edification here is one example: Bill Clinton was President. Congress passed a bill forbidding partial birth abortion. Clinton vetoed it. The Senate overrode his veto and sent it to the House. It came down to one vote as to whether Clinton's veto would be sustained or overrode. A Republican cast the deciding vote to sustain it. That was one of many.
The last thing we need to do is to stop Obamacare from happening. This is stupid.
Let the people have what they voted for. Rub their noses in it.
For every action there is a reaction. How will the Democrats hurt the military as a result of not getting their way? How much danger/damage will they create just to blame the Republicans? (It works. That’s why they do it.)
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Boehner caves in 5...4...3...
To both questions: All they can. The only ones they won’t is their parasites. But if obamacare gets funded again, its all over but the crying.
Yup. And, according to the Rats in the MSM, it's already the GOP's fault it's a trainwreck.
It is not defeatist. It is realistic.
Do you remember the "government shut down" in the 1990s? The entire media went into blame Republicans mode. After a couple of days, the Republicans caved.
Now give me an example of when the Republicans have threatened to cut spending and not caved? Obama's sequester does not count. The only "cut" was a very slight decrease in the planned increase in spending. When slightly decreasing the planned rate of increase of spending counts as a cut, we are doomed.
Obamacare was never intended to work. It was designed to be the worst healthcare system imaginable so that the sheeple will beg for socialized medicine.
I don't hold the position that Republicans havn't caved. I've been all over spineless Boehner on that very point.
But I also don't hold following position...
Look, I think we all know that the odds are long. But there really is no choice but to try to change things. To see post after post that pretty much says that it will never happen to me is defeatist.
Disagree. Don't think the comment is question was realistic.
Please advise as to what makes Obamacare "uncontitutional law"
It is not defeatist. It is realistic.
Do you remember the “government shut down” in the 1990s? The entire media went into blame Republicans mode. After a couple of days, the Republicans caved.
Now give me an example of when the Republicans have threatened to cut spending and not caved? Obama’s sequester does not count. The only “cut” was a very slight decrease in the planned increase in spending. When slightly decreasing the planned rate of increase of spending counts as a cut, we are doomed.
of course you are right. does anybody have an example of anyone cutting anything ever?
I pray that you are right and I am proven wrong.
Now who is chasing unicorns and skittles...?
Some of the reasons are set out in the dissenting opinion in National Federation of Independent Business v. Sebelius. Unfortunately, the Constitution says whatever 5 out of 9 Supreme Court Justices say it says so, at least for the time being, the majority opinion controls.
Round two will be whether the forced funding of abortion violates the free exercise of religion.
Seems like a real dog and pony show, repeat after me the GOP doesn’t have the guts to shut down this monstrosity.
Shut it down!!! SHUT IT DOWN!!! With the government in park, it can not do evil.
They don’t want to lose the illegal alien and the cemetary vote.
Maybe they should be more worried about the Whitey vote.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, ..."
Ayn Rand writes ...
"One may argue about the later stages of a pregnancy, but the essential issue concerns only the first three months. To equate a potential with an actual is vicious; to advocate the sacrifice of the latter to the former is unspeakable."
Nevermind the Congress.
You want it gone. Shutdown business.
Food, gas, electric, oil. The works
Boner and McCornhole will cave. Nothing to see here. Move on.
Yeah yeah yeah....
Call me when it really happens.
The surest lock in the history of gambling.
I'm done being their battered wife.
The Republicans should say:
“We’re not shutting the government down; we’re shutting Obamacare down.”
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