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Chuck Hagel warns: Troops are ‘close to the breaking point’
Politico ^ | 23 Jul 13 | PHILIP EWING

Posted on 07/23/2013 9:20:54 AM PDT by SkyPilot

Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel warned on Monday that U.S. troops are “close to the breaking point,” after many deployments — and Congress risks worsening the situation if it doesn’t help the Pentagon with its budget.

“Our people are strong and resilient after 12 years of war, but they are under stress — and so are the institutions that support them,” Hagel told the Veterans of Foreign Wars at the group’s annual convention in Louisville, Ky.

“Last week at Fort Bragg’s Soldier and Family Assistance Center, I met a first sergeant who told me that in Afghanistan, he froze up and became overwhelmed by anxiety. He couldn’t command. He had lost his ability to command,” Hagel said. “I asked him how many deployments he had. He told me he was on his fifth consecutive combat tour when this happened. When you push human beings this hard, they break. Some people have been pushed beyond the breaking point.”

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While Chuckles is correct, he is part of the problem.

He called from his aircraft over Afghanistan to "congratulate" homosexual activists on the SCOTUS decision, and immediately ordered benefits in the Billions to be paid to homosexual "spouses."

He is destroying the DoD civilian workforce, which is composed of 44% military veterans. The furlough is finanically ruining the lives of mechanics, teachers, nurses, cops, engineers, and every other profession that directly supports our military.

Hagel should be standing on the desk of Obama and screaming at the top of his lungs in the halls of Congress - demanding Sequestration stop harming our military - now.

Hagel should immediately suspend millions on gopher research, a $455 million upgrade to Gitmo (including a new audio visual entertainment room), and Billions to the Muslim brotherhood.

No on in American even cares remotely about our uniformed military either, and what they have been through.

Commercials like this one are soooooo 2006.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AGay3mZHeE

1 posted on 07/23/2013 9:20:54 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

One wonders to what extent this unhappy situation is due to the knowledge that they’re working for a dickhead president....


2 posted on 07/23/2013 9:22:38 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: SkyPilot

Dittos to that.

Hagel is managing the DoD right into the ground.....


3 posted on 07/23/2013 9:22:59 AM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE AT THE TOP OF MY LIST)
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To: Jack Hammer

Hey... hagel has a little hole in the top of his head too!


4 posted on 07/23/2013 9:24:09 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Jack Hammer

“One wonders to what extent this unhappy situation is due to the knowledge that they’re working for a dickhead president....”

Darn—I tought it was going to be about the troops overthrowing him ala Morsi style. Our own little coup..


5 posted on 07/23/2013 9:24:26 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: SkyPilot

Sorry, this guy has to have a severe ‘angle’ to say something like this. What is he up to?


6 posted on 07/23/2013 9:24:50 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Zimmerman breaks Martin's nose/pounds his head on concrete? Does Martin's backers support Zimmerman?)
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To: SkyPilot

Thanks for your post. I wasn’t aware of how much the DoD civilian workforce was affected.


7 posted on 07/23/2013 9:25:25 AM PDT by married21
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To: SkyPilot

A few hundred million more for well-connected contractors to provide Racial Sensitivity Training to the troops.

yeah, THAT’LL fix it!! /sarc


8 posted on 07/23/2013 9:26:03 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SkyPilot

Change our “goal” in each theater to deicmating the enemy, not Nation building.

Change our ROE to “smash everything flat if attacked”, regardless of local collateral.

In the next 3 months, plan on bringing everyone back as there will be nothing left to destroy.


9 posted on 07/23/2013 9:28:19 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Jack Hammer
Working for a dickhead president who stuffed the military with pro-gay activists, left people to die in Benghazi then covered it up, called the Fort Hood jihad "workplace related shootings", won't allow them rules of engagement that help them win a war, has them considered "Terrorists" when they return to civilian life, and wants them to be profiled as "psychotic" for appreciating the 2nd amendment....

What could go wrong for them?

10 posted on 07/23/2013 9:28:22 AM PDT by Lakeshark (KILL THE BILL! CALL. FAX. WRITE)
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To: LibLieSlayer

“hagel has a little hole in the top of his head too!”

That’s beside the point!


11 posted on 07/23/2013 9:29:39 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: married21
It is a 20% pay cut - even nurses and caregivers at military hospitals are affected. Even the nurses at Walter Reed caring for combat wounded are furloughed.

The lowly paid GS-05 mechanic is furloughed. These people work for this nation - they are not like the Food Stamp and SSDI takers. Yet, they are the ones punished.

There is also a huge, massive "brain drain" that has already occurred in the defense industry. Very skilled researchers and engineers have either left or are leaving.

The overall effect on the economy will be profoundly negative, not to mention the immorality of all of this.

Sequestration exempts Entitlements, but steals from those who get up each day and work for a noble cause.

12 posted on 07/23/2013 9:31:20 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

Cut their rations again. Maybe it’ll work this time.


13 posted on 07/23/2013 9:32:43 AM PDT by DManA
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To: SkyPilot

Yeah well, being forced to surrender to terrorists and celebrate sodomy will depress you......


14 posted on 07/23/2013 9:37:32 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

:-)


15 posted on 07/23/2013 9:38:01 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Jack Hammer

Exactly. My son said he refuses to join the reserves even for the bennies he could get simply because he cannot stand the president and his policies toward the military. He was a 3 tour combat Marine in Helmand province so he was no slacker either and has more insight on our military that anyone in the white hut or SecDef.


16 posted on 07/23/2013 9:38:20 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: SkyPilot
Mission accomplished!!!
17 posted on 07/23/2013 9:39:01 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: SkyPilot

Our military has been ridden hard since Desert Storm. Then there was the Bosnia/Kosovo rotation, and then the focus on Iraq, and then the transition of focus to Afghan. So, we go all the way back to 1990. That is 23 years of a tough optempo.

What has made it so rough? I would argue for downsizing the military during the Clinton era to 10 divisions, and then in the Obama era to the brigade equivalent of about 8 divisions. And now they want to make it smaller.

There was a 2 simultaneous wars strategy primarily to fight 2 wars if necessary. Alternate reasons for that manpower level would be what we see now. An extended war, and especially one we’re not particularly concerned with winning quickly, would tap the strength of those who serve.

What’s the best answer?

Increase back to 13 divisions, rid ourselves of the brigade focus, and put a warrior in the White House. That plan is, of course, listed backwards.

Obama should resign due to incompetence.


18 posted on 07/23/2013 9:39:12 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: SkyPilot

It would also help quite a bit if we stopped being the world’s police force. There was a time when the military wasn’t spread all over the globe on one deployment after another. Leadership needs to learn how to set priorities. If it isn’t directly related to national defense, then maybe we shouldn’t go. Of course, this is way, way too much to expect from President Obama and his ilk. Like all leftists, they hate the DoD. I’m not saying we need to be isolationists, but we could certainly be a little less expeditionary.


19 posted on 07/23/2013 9:40:07 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: SkyPilot

“Sequestration exempts Entitlements, but steals from those who get up each day and work for a noble cause.”

And you will not hear one peep on MSM about this either. Just like how the glazed over Congress exempted themselves from NObamaCare too.


20 posted on 07/23/2013 9:40:09 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: SkyPilot

Bush’s Fault, no doubt.


21 posted on 07/23/2013 9:41:13 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Justice for Trayvon: Dig up his body and shoot him again.)
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To: SkyPilot

22 posted on 07/23/2013 9:42:33 AM PDT by PLD (-)
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To: Nextrush

so lets listen to asskisser dempsey tsalk about deploying troops to syria.


23 posted on 07/23/2013 9:43:14 AM PDT by bravo whiskey (We should not fear our government. Our government should fear us.)
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To: xzins

Desert Storm started it, and it’s been going on ever since. Our country’s leaders have forgotten the purpose behind having a big stick. Carry a big stick so you WON’T have to use it. Democrat administrations in particular seem to think the military is just another tool in the toolbox, so why not use it, eh? Well, they’re using it up, wearing it out, and NOT paying to maintain it.


24 posted on 07/23/2013 9:43:42 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: DoughtyOne
What is he up to?

If I had to guess, I'd say it's money. After that, more money. Finally, even more money still. But none of it is for more troops or better barracks & fighter planes, it'll be for Muslim outreach.

Just a guess, I have no special knowledge.

25 posted on 07/23/2013 9:44:22 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Justice for Trayvon: Dig up his body and shoot him again.)
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To: bravo whiskey

that would be TALK not STALK, though that might be appropriate too. too bad we can’t furlough welfare and food stamps.


26 posted on 07/23/2013 9:44:55 AM PDT by bravo whiskey (We should not fear our government. Our government should fear us.)
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To: PLD

LOL!


27 posted on 07/23/2013 9:45:04 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (K I L L T H E B I L L !!)
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To: Jack Hammer

How happy would you be if you thought you might have to go into combat with a woman in front of you and a queer behind you.


28 posted on 07/23/2013 9:45:17 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Jack Hammer

And you can’t even ask Jesus to help you because that isn’t allowed any more.


29 posted on 07/23/2013 9:47:54 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: SkyPilot

That’s really depressing. I used to work for the Navy Exchange in the 80s, and my dad was a career civilian employee of the Dept. of the Navy (after his WW2 service). I can well imagine the people this is affecting.


30 posted on 07/23/2013 9:48:05 AM PDT by married21
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To: SkyPilot

but I thought Obama ended all the unnecessary wars. How can this be?


31 posted on 07/23/2013 9:48:41 AM PDT by ilgipper (Obama is proving that very bad ideas can be wrapped up in pretty words)
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To: DoughtyOne
I don’t think a single one of these creeps knows what the h^% he is talking about any more.

Every other day and almost every other hour, we hear about a new mis statement, crime, scandal, malfaesance, leak, corruption, mismanagement... so now I am convinced that there are a bunch of truly deficient (and that is putting it nicely) idiots in DC ... and Hagel is certainly one of them. Starting with and not limited TO Benghazi, which has not been addressed to anyone's satisfaction, and all the other spying and corruption reports... I hate them all! AND I hate the MSM which focuses on only the most superficial and temorary issues.

32 posted on 07/23/2013 9:49:02 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The test of every religious, political, or educational system is the man that it forms." H. Amiel)
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To: SkyPilot

Maybe because many in Afghanistan no longer have hot breakfasts, midnight meals, decent lunches, decent latrines & showers, etc., while Zero takes $100 million vacations on the taxpayer dime?


33 posted on 07/23/2013 9:49:15 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: SkyPilot

Plus large taxpayer money helping Muslims inside the DOD, too.


34 posted on 07/23/2013 9:50:39 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: SkyPilot

Sorry, but it is NOT a 20% annual pay cut. It’s a 20% pay cut over the summer, which works out to maybe a 4% annual pay cut.


35 posted on 07/23/2013 9:51:04 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: CitizenUSA

When this “war” on terror started I told my wife that we will never win it because we won’t do what it will take to win it.

Expecting a soldier to fight for years, especially under the ROE they must fight, will take it’s toll.


36 posted on 07/23/2013 9:51:38 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (If you vote for evil because you can't see evil, you ARE evil!)
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To: Jack Hammer
One wonders to what extent this unhappy situation is due to the knowledge that they’re working for a dickhead president....

Do you really think that 5 consecutive combat deployments would be easier to take under Bush or any other president? Hagel is right. The troops have been stretched past the safety point. And morons like McCain are willing to toss them into the Syrian mess.

37 posted on 07/23/2013 9:53:23 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: SkyPilot
Sequestration exempts Entitlements, but steals from those who get up each day and work for a noble cause.

Imagine the howl of racism if a 20% to foodstamps were inacted.

38 posted on 07/23/2013 9:54:00 AM PDT by dartuser
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To: SkyPilot

what a farce

we have enough on out plate, militarily

and Obama has added troops and logistics operations, in Africa, in multiple locations, and not just “special operations”, and most recently in Jordan and Turkey in defense of the Sunni-Islamist putsch against Assad

I always hear screaming about little Korea, when a bigger question is when will prosperous western Europe take care of its own defenses, after sixty-plus years on the dole to us. Britain and France always have troops for foreign military adventures abroad that serve their own “national interest” yet when will the NATO countries in Europe do all the heavy lifting in Europe?

as for Afghanistan, that’s a whole nuther can of worms

maybe BECAUSE of sequestration, the Pentagon will be able to force and administration to start making policy based on priorities as opposed to priorities set merely to fulfill policy wish lists.


39 posted on 07/23/2013 9:55:06 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Resolute Conservative
My boy is full time Air Guard (as was his father). His unit is looking at a six month deployment next year to God knows where. The unit has already spent three different deployments to the sand box. Guard and Reserve units really struggle because so many of their members are small business people.
He is really worried about this one. He gave us a heart felt summary of America, from the Revolution on and then said” I know if our base is over run, there will be no help coming”. His dad and I were in tears.
This is from a man that is a true patriot from a long line of military men stretching back to Valley Forge. He told us he serves the people and the Constitution but really fears where we are heading.
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40 posted on 07/23/2013 9:56:09 AM PDT by Himyar
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To: CitizenUSA; SkyPilot
There was a time when the military wasn’t spread all over the globe on one deployment after another.

Well.... someone's got to protect the ASSETS and INVESTMENTS of the RULING OLIGARCHY.

It's so 'nice' of us 'capitalists' to protect the 'wealth' of the 'socialists'.

41 posted on 07/23/2013 10:04:41 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: SkyPilot

Don’t confuse the issue with facts. Congress is busy getting ready to spend millions to arm Al-Qaida in Syria.


42 posted on 07/23/2013 10:10:59 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Venturer

I would be more angry/depressed about leaving my family and seeing friends die for ungrateful savages. Let the Islamic filth kill each other.


43 posted on 07/23/2013 10:18:22 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: SkyPilot
Sign up more perverts.When they're not in the sick bay with their latest flareup of AIDS they can be in Afghanistan telling the jihadis just how evil infidels really are.
44 posted on 07/23/2013 10:30:54 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama Had A City It Would Look Like Detroit.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Those are safe mentions in my opinion.


45 posted on 07/23/2013 10:30:54 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Kill the bill... Begin enforcing our current laws, signed by President Ronald Reagan.)
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To: Venturer

My point exactly, even if the wording is slightly different.


46 posted on 07/23/2013 10:34:44 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: Lakeshark

Yes, THAT dickhead.


47 posted on 07/23/2013 10:35:34 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: 0.E.O

I refer you to several earlier responses to my point.


48 posted on 07/23/2013 10:37:35 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: DoughtyOne

Its all about the coming Debt Ceiling fight. All owebama’s minions are posturing for the cameras.


49 posted on 07/23/2013 10:43:29 AM PDT by subterfuge (CBS NBC ABC FOX AP-- all no different than Pravda.)
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To: SkyPilot

Bring all the troops home now.


50 posted on 07/23/2013 10:44:13 AM PDT by subterfuge (CBS NBC ABC FOX AP-- all no different than Pravda.)
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