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Blacks must also look inward, at our culture
Mpls. Star Tribune ^ | 7/22/13 | Peter Bell

Posted on 07/23/2013 12:30:22 PM PDT by rhema

How can we demand respect from others when we show so little of it for ourselves?

Everyone agrees that Trayvon Martin's death was a senseless loss of life. While we'll never know all the facts, it seems likely that George Zimmerman did "profile" Martin when he first saw him. What happened after that will forever be unknown, and, in my mind, the facts were insufficient to convict Zimmerman.

The establishment view of this tragedy is that it is primarily about racial profiling, "stand your ground" laws and the relative value our society places on the lives of young black males. Many black leaders argue that if Martin had killed Zimmerman, the verdict might have been different.

What often gets lost in this narrative is how we in the black community often contribute to our own destruction. The Martin case, tragic as it is, pales in comparison to the epidemic of black-on-black murders, which is the leading cause of death for young black men in this country. In Chicago, the murder rate is so high that it is affecting the city's credit rating. It is broadly accepted that crime in Detroit is a major reason the city is bankrupt.

Where is the outrage, the indignation, the marches for victims of black-on-black crime? The simple fact is that black thugs pose a much greater threat to me and my family than racial profiling ever will.

More important, where is the honest self-examination in the black community of how we tragically devalue our own lives? How can we build a culture of self-respect, honor and dignity when the most visible expression of black culture today is hip-hop and rap music? This malignant new form of black culture plays a dominant role in defining what it means to be an authentic young black male.

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1 posted on 07/23/2013 12:30:22 PM PDT by rhema
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To: rhema
Many black leaders argue that if Martin had killed Zimmerman, the verdict might have been different.

Hmmmm ... considering that Martin was in the act of violently assaulting Zimmerman ... yes ... if Martin had killed Zimmerman, the verdict should have been "Guilty" on a charge of first degree murder.

2 posted on 07/23/2013 12:32:58 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: rhema
Many black leaders argue that if Martin had killed Zimmerman, the verdict might have been different.

Hmmmm ... considering that Martin was in the act of violently assaulting Zimmerman ... yes ... if Martin had killed Zimmerman, the verdict should have been "Guilty" on a charge of first degree murder.

The Martin case, tragic as it is,

Tragic? A young punk who was brought up wrong and trained to do worse in a culture that glorifies violence, theft, and drug abuse gets killed while in the act of aggravated assault. That's predictable.

pales in comparison to the epidemic of black-on-black murders,

All of which occur in a culture which glorifies violence, theft, and drug abuse. Get the picture?

3 posted on 07/23/2013 12:35:39 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: rhema

Don’t worry about personal responsibility; you can always abort tomorrow!


4 posted on 07/23/2013 12:39:33 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (The Tipline for Zimmerman's Inquisition is: Sanford.florida@usdoj.gov ... Use it.)
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To: rhema
While we'll never know all the facts, it seems likely that George Zimmerman did "profile" Martin when he first saw him.

He "profiled" him as a stranger peeking into people's patio doors at night in the rain.

He couldn't tell what race he was, and it wouldn't have mattered anyway.

5 posted on 07/23/2013 12:41:00 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: rhema

At least the author is willing to confront a real problem: Blacks kill blacks.

Now, can they get from that symptom to the cause?

The cause of all social ills everywhere in every ethnic group of every race is....

....FATHERLESSNESS!!!

Until the Black (and any other) Community requires its young men to be Fathers, crime will rage rampant.


6 posted on 07/23/2013 12:41:25 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (The Tipline for Zimmerman's Inquisition is: Sanford.florida@usdoj.gov ... Use it.)
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To: rhema

Where is the outrage, the indignation, the marches for victims of black-on-black crime? The simple fact is that black thugs pose a much greater threat to me and my family than racial profiling ever will.

Kudos to the author


7 posted on 07/23/2013 12:42:01 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Macabre Crumpet of Caucasian Ethnicity)
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To: rhema

It’s not a culture, it’s an anti-culture.
It’s a “culture” of “not acting white”.


8 posted on 07/23/2013 12:42:22 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: ArrogantBustard
American culture is formed by folks of every color living by Judeo/Christian standards of honesty, thrift, hard work, loyalty, love of Country, etc.

This so-called Black culture is merely a rejection of American culture by labeling it "White" culture. Black culture is a glorification of gangstas and their hos and drug dealing. It is basically devoid of anything worthy of respect and is destructive to anyone who lives in it.

This was Trayvon's world...and the world glorified by Obama, the media, and Hollywood.

9 posted on 07/23/2013 12:43:30 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (I propose the segregation of Liberals from Conservatives!)
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To: rhema

Zimmerman profiled Trayvon as a possible criminal because of prior circumstances, and the way Trayvon was acting. Trayvon’s blackness was secondary, and not mentioned until prompted by the dispatcher. The only racism that has occurred has happened in the aftermath of Trayvon’s death. It is the racism that defines the radical black establishment.


10 posted on 07/23/2013 12:43:47 PM PDT by pallis
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To: rhema

No comments allowed on the article over at the Star-Tribune (but such is allowed on the Krugman column there).

One can only imagine the vile slurs being tossed at this guy for having the nerve to trying to speak truth to the mob.


11 posted on 07/23/2013 12:43:51 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: ArrogantBustard

“The simple fact is that black thugs pose a much greater threat to me and my family than racial profiling ever will.”

this is true and I’m guessing the author is black. he sounds like he’s trying to walk a fine line but really sees things the way we do for the most part.


12 posted on 07/23/2013 12:44:08 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: Uncle Miltie

God Designed the Family Man Wife..Children

Children without a father ..and a bitter mother...will never turn out very well.


13 posted on 07/23/2013 12:44:18 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Macabre Crumpet of Caucasian Ethnicity)
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To: rhema

Come on man. This is the “New skrool.”


14 posted on 07/23/2013 12:44:45 PM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: ArrogantBustard

The “black leaders” don’t address the failure of black culture because there is better money in screaming, “racism!” at everything.


15 posted on 07/23/2013 12:45:22 PM PDT by Wordkraft (Remember who the Collaborators are.)
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To: rhema
" The simple fact is that black thugs pose a much greater threat to me and my family than racial profiling ever will. "

He better be black if he is saying that...

16 posted on 07/23/2013 12:47:17 PM PDT by Mr. K (4 election)
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If black or any other race of children/teens/young men/full grown men want to be "gangstas," cultivate violent behavior, get messed up on sizzurp, rob others, and murder at 10 times the rate of other cultures...

... then I reserve the right to see that for what it is, profile it, then lock my damn doors and get the hell away as fast as I can.

17 posted on 07/23/2013 12:47:25 PM PDT by Bronzewound
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To: Uncle Miltie

Fatherlessness and Violence

The London riots have simply reconfirmed and graphically illustrated what the social sciences have been telling us for a half century now: when we allow society to disregard the institution of marriage and in fact assault the institution of family, we are asking for – and will get – trouble.

The social science evidence on this is as overwhelming as it is clear: by every indicator, children will be worse off when not raised in a biological two-parent family. They will be more likely to do less well at school, to become involved in drugs, to commit suicide, to have a range of mental and psychological problems, and to get involved in gangs and criminal activity.

This has been documented so thoroughly now that only an ideologue who is pushing agendas can deny the evidence. Let me here just offer the smallest sampling of research data on this. These are just a few bits of the available evidence.

In an important book on the subject, Francis Ianni found that most gang members in America come from female-headed households. And a study of British communities in the American Journal of Sociology by Sampson and Groves found a direct statistical link between single parenthood and virtually every major type of crime, including mugging, violence against strangers, car theft and burglary.

One study tracked every child born on the Hawaiian island of Kauai in 1955 for 30 years. It found that five out of six delinquents with an adult criminal record came from families where a parent – almost always the father – was absent.

A study by Douglas Smith and G. R. Jarjoura analysed victimisation data on over 11,000 individuals from three urban areas in New York, Florida and Missouri. They arrived at this startling conclusion: the proportion of single-parent households in a community predicts its rates of violent crime and burglary, but the community’s poverty level does not. Neither poverty nor race seem to account very much for the crime rate, compared to the proportion of single parent families, Smith and Jarjoura found.

In Australia, a book by Alan Tapper highlights this connection between broken families and crime. In a study of rising crime rates in Western Australia, Tapper suggests that “family breakdown in the form of divorce and separation is the main cause of the crime wave”.

A longitudinal study of 512 Australian children found that there are more offenders coming from families of cohabiting than married couples, and there are proportionally more offenders who become recidivists coming from families of cohabiting than married couples. The study concludes, “The relationship between cohabitation and delinquency is beyond contention: children of cohabiting couples are more likely to be found among offenders than children of married couples”.

Even researchers who are wary of making a connection between broken families and crime have conceded that some relationship exists between the two. For example, David Demo and Alan Acock, who reviewed dozens of studies on the subject concluded: “A tentative conclusion based on the evidence reviewed here is that antisocial behaviour is less likely to occur in families where two adults are present, whether as biological parents, step-parents, or some combination of biological parents and other adults”.

Even stronger connections between crime and family breakdown have been made by the Centre for Independent Studies in Sydney, which compared crime rates with out-of-wedlock birth rates from 1903 to 1993. It found that the “percentage of ex-nuptial births correlates significantly with both serious and violent crime at both one and two decades time lapse”.

What we see happening in the UK is just further evidence of this. Many social commentators have pointed this out. Theodore Dalrymple is a retired prison doctor and psychiatrist. He has worked with these sorts of people for decades and knows full well the connections between family breakdown and crime. And he sees the modern welfare state as playing a key role here.

He says: “British youth leads the Western world in almost all aspects of social pathology, from teenage pregnancy to drug taking, from drunkenness to violent criminality. There is no form of bad behaviour that our version of the welfare state has not sought out and subsidised.

“British children are much likelier to have a television in their bedroom than a father living at home. One-third of them never eat a meal at a table with another member of their household – family is not the word for the social arrangements of the people in the areas from which the rioters mainly come. They are therefore radically unsocialised and deeply egotistical, viewing relations with other human beings in the same way as Lenin: Who whom, who does what to whom. By the time they grow up, they are destined not only for unemployment but unemployability.

“For young women in much of Britain, dependence does not mean dependence on the government: that, for them, is independence. Dependence means any kind of reliance on the men who have impregnated them who, of course, regard their own subventions from the state as pocket money, to be supplemented by a little light trafficking. (According to his brother, Mark Duggan, the man whose death at the hands of the probably incompetent police allegedly sparked the riots, “was involved in things”, which things being delicately left to the imagination of his interlocutor.)”

He says elsewhere: “Three men were run over and killed as they tried to protect their property in the very area of Birmingham in which I used to work, and through which I walked daily; the large town that I live near when I’m in England has also seen rioting. Only someone who never looked around him and never drew any conclusions from the faces and manner of the young men he saw would have been surprised.

“The riots are the apotheosis of the welfare state and popular culture in their British form. A population thinks (because it has often been told so by intellectuals and the political class) that it is entitled to a high standard of consumption, irrespective of its personal efforts; and therefore it regards the fact that it does not receive that high standard, by comparison with the rest of society, as a sign of injustice. It believes itself deprived (because it has often been told so by intellectuals and the political class), even though each member of it has received an education costing $80,000, toward which neither he nor—quite likely—any member of his family has made much of a contribution; indeed, he may well have lived his entire life at others’ expense, such that every mouthful of food he has ever eaten, every shirt he has ever worn, every television he has ever watched, has been provided by others. Even if he were to recognize this, he would not be grateful, for dependency does not promote gratitude. On the contrary, he would simply feel that the subventions were not sufficient to allow him to live as he would have liked.”

And yet we have opinion makers and our political elites telling us it is a neat thing to deliberately bring children into the world without a mother and father. Thus Finance Minister Penny Wong proudly announced that she and her female lover are having a baby through IVF.

Miranda Devine offers some common sense commentary on this: “The fact that Penny Wong’s female partner is to have a baby is a cause for private celebration for them. But why are so many people exhorting the rest of us to celebrate as if this were some major milestone in human civilisation? You’d think no politician had ever had a child before.

“We are supposed to ignore Tony and Margie Abbott’s three daughters because every time he is seen with them it is some sort of unfair snub to Julia Gillard and reflection on her marital status. The traditional heterosexual norm of a nuclear family and children is something to be kept in a closet like an embarrassment.

“Tolerance has gone back to front. It is no longer good enough to accept without criticism female politicians in de facto or lesbian relationships. Now we have to downplay traditional marriage for fear of causing offence. No one can be a wife or husband any more. Everyone is a ‘partner’.

“The unorthodox situation of a lesbian artificially inseminated with the sperm of a male ‘acquaintance’ we are supposed to laud as if it were the Second Coming, the wonderful precursor of what the New York Times once lauded as the ‘post-marital’ future. Well, no.”

The media of course is using the Wong announcement to rally for their PC cause of the month: same-sex marriage. Says Devine, “I believe the push for same-sex marriage is not about enhancing the lives of gay couples. In countries where it has been legalised, there has been no rush to the altar. The issue is largely symbolic. It is simply a political tool to undermine the last bastion of bourgeois morality – the traditional nuclear family.

“You only had to see the burning streets of London last week to see the manifestation of a fatherless society. The collapse of family life in Britain has been laid bare, reported to have the highest proportion of single mothers in Europe and nearly half of all children suffering family breakdown by the age of 16. Fatherless families in underprivileged boroughs of London are the norm.

“People were quick to call for sanctions on the parents of feral youth looting shops and torching buildings. Clapham shop-owner Elizabeth Pilgrim wailed to the BBC: ‘They’re feral rats. What are those parents doing? Those children should be at home. They shouldn’t be out here causing mayhem.’ But the fact is the fathers of those children are probably long gone. There are no ‘parents’ to take charge and exert control over their wayward children.

“The welfare state has taken over the father’s role of protector, provider, and enforcer, substituting sit-down money for love and care. And what a mess it has made: fatherless boys full of incoherent rage, fatherless girls having another generation of fatherless babies to a string of feckless men. It is politically incorrect to say so, but the ideal situation for a child is to be brought up in an intact family with a father and a mother.

“As a rule, what prevents social chaos and the underclass is an intact family. What keeps children safe is an intact family, with a father in the home. Sure, there are aberrations, and you can always find evils within traditional families, domestic violence and child abuse.

“But even this imperfect institution is better than the Hobbesian social chaos the children of the underclasses have been born into for the last 50 years. Marriage is not just a private relationship: it is a social good. Collectively, the erosion of the institution of marriage, and the relegating of fathers to the sidelines, is destructive to society.”

And we have seen this perfectly played out in Britain this past week. And we will see more and more of it played out all over the Western world in days to come. Perhaps before too many more cities burn to the ground we will remember a vital truth: fathers are vitally important, and so too is heterosexual marriage.

When we play fast and loose with fathers and marriage we simply invite the sort of barbarism witnessed in London to become mainstream. We had better wise up before it is too late.

http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2011/08/14/fatherlessness-and-violence/


18 posted on 07/23/2013 12:47:51 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (The Tipline for Zimmerman's Inquisition is: Sanford.florida@usdoj.gov ... Use it.)
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To: rhema

I’d like their culture to tell me specifically why they hate me (or any other white assed cracker).


19 posted on 07/23/2013 12:48:07 PM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: rhema

:: The simple fact is that black thugs pose a much greater threat to me and my family than racial profiling ever will. ::

Precisely why whitey just doesn’t follow through on avoidable self-defense situations. At some point, the culture will square things up. We just shrug our shoulders and walk away.

Does any disagree, had GZ returned to his truck and left, that TraydMark would have ultimately been incarcerated or “in-morgue-erated” according to his cultural affiliations?


20 posted on 07/23/2013 12:50:13 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: New Jersey Realist

I can tell you...

They = people of that culture:

They don’t hate your whiteness.
They hate your culture.
They hate your Western Culture.
They hate your Western Christian Culture.
They hate your Western Christian Culture based on God’s Laws.

They hate God’s Laws, and seek to define their own morality.

Your skin color is simply a 3 times removed proxy.


21 posted on 07/23/2013 12:51:09 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Uncle Miltie
"....FATHERLESSNESS!!!"

Definition: Phenomenon created by the Federal Government by providing funds to "baby mamas". The more babies, the more funds. Then the "baby father" can live with several "baby mamas" free of charge and responsibility in order to pursue more candidates to become "baby mamas.

22 posted on 07/23/2013 12:51:51 PM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: rhema
Peter Bell: "Everyone agrees that Trayvon Martin's death was a senseless loss of life. While we'll never know all the facts, it seems likely that George Zimmerman did "profile" Martin when he first saw him. What happened after that will forever be unknown..."

First three sentences; first three lies. There's really no need to continue further with this trash.

23 posted on 07/23/2013 12:52:14 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: ArrogantBustard

It’s a story of lost humanity, and being lost humanity has no direct dependence upon one’s skin color. No color of people is any “loster” than another; however under certain circumstances sin can involve an obsession upon color (as it can an obsession upon any circumstance of the physical world). I hate even to use the word “denigrate” because some people are so sensitive to that, but that’s what some people do to themselves in the name of color solidarity. Argue with Mr. Bell’s speculations upon the GZ case all you want (I personally would), but he summed it up extremely well at the end of his article (at the source) “If you do not respect yourself, nobody else will either.”


24 posted on 07/23/2013 12:53:21 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: Carl Vehse

Read it through to the end then say that again... if you haven’t realized there’s more. This proclivity to toss things away with superficial looks without further consideration is usually a “LIBERAL” fault... not a “CONSERVATIVE” one. Word to the wise.


25 posted on 07/23/2013 12:55:27 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: rhema
Everyone agrees that Trayvon Martin's death was a senseless loss of life. While we'll never know all the facts, it seems likely that George Zimmerman did "profile" Martin when he first saw him>/i>

GZ profiled Sweet Little Trayvon as a young (possibly black) thug on drugs, loitering, and casing apartments, a person who matched the description of almost all the burglars seen at the scene of previous crimes in the neighborhood. I don't see any errors in his profile or any problems with making accurate observations. As for Sweet Little Trayvon's death, the way he was raised was a senseless loss; the actual shooting was a good thing for society and essential for GZ.

26 posted on 07/23/2013 12:57:29 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: spacejunkie2001
Yes, I think he is "black", and he does seem to get it:

More important, where is the honest self-examination in the black community of how we tragically devalue our own lives? How can we build a culture of self-respect, honor and dignity when the most visible expression of black culture today is hip-hop and rap music? This malignant new form of black culture plays a dominant role in defining what it means to be an authentic young black male.

"No race can prosper till it learns that there is as much dignity in tilling a field as in writing a poem." - Booker T. Washington

In Booker T's day, there was a huge push in negro culture to elevate higher education to the level of an idol, rejecting practical work and manual labor as oppressive leftovers from slave days. While education is now often rejected as "acting white", practical work is also rejected, by the same people, as "acting white". The great black heroes of the left are all "talkers", not "producers". What have Barack 0bama, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, etc actually made?

Meanwhile, Booker T. Washington (who called them out on it), George Washington Carver (who actually invented stuff), etc. are consigned (in the minds of the left) to the dustbin of history. They're not useful. Their example doesn't keep blacks uneducated, unskilled, and dependent on Big DemocRAT Massa.

27 posted on 07/23/2013 12:58:35 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: rhema
What happened after that will forever be unknown

We know that TM had four minutes before his final confrontational act in which he didn't run/walk/crawl back to the condo where he was staying after getting suspended.

We know he didn't call the police (or his father or Eric Holder, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton...) for help, (or for fatherly, legal, or spiritual advice) in those four minutes.

We do know that GZ abandoned his surveilling of TM after losing sight and headed back to his vehicle.

We don't know why TM, a minor, didn't just go "home".

We do, and the author does: This malignant new ["new"?! Denial is not a river...] form of black culture plays a dominant role in defining what it means to be an authentic young black male.

28 posted on 07/23/2013 12:58:53 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: rhema

Peter Bell is indeed African-American. He is also a conservative and fellow at the center for the American Experiment, which is a conservative think tank in Minneapolis. He is frequently the target of leftists, and it would appear from some of the comments in this thread, of some conservatives too.


29 posted on 07/23/2013 12:59:06 PM PDT by Parmenio
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To: MrB
They hate God’s Laws, and seek to define their own morality.

Which doesn't include the concept of personal responsibility, in fact, it's now widely considered to be racist to use the term "personal responsibility" to or in regards to blacks.

Given all that you said, how can diversity work?

Doesn't diversity mean different? Is everything different automatically good?

30 posted on 07/23/2013 12:59:08 PM PDT by Bronzewound
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To: rhema

Certainly wouldn’t want to admit violent black on white crime as being an issue and has to dilute his opinion with.....

“While we’ll never know all the facts, it seems likely that George Zimmerman did “profile” Martin when he first saw him.


31 posted on 07/23/2013 12:59:20 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Carl Vehse
Your loss. You missed these ineluctable truths:

What often gets lost in this narrative is how we in the black community often contribute to our own destruction. The Martin case, tragic as it is, pales in comparison to the epidemic of black-on-black murders, which is the leading cause of death for young black men in this country. In Chicago, the murder rate is so high that it is affecting the city’s credit rating. It is broadly accepted that crime in Detroit is a major reason the city is bankrupt.

Where is the outrage, the indignation, the marches for victims of black-on-black crime? The simple fact is that black thugs pose a much greater threat to me and my family than racial profiling ever will.

More important, where is the honest self-examination in the black community of how we tragically devalue our own lives? How can we build a culture of self-respect, honor and dignity when the most visible expression of black culture today is hip-hop and rap music? This malignant new form of black culture plays a dominant role in defining what it means to be an authentic young black male. Hip-hop culture, with all its trappings, is embraced and celebrated by many black entertainers and athletes, who are the only role models many young black men have.

What other culture in the history of the world has routinely referred to its women as “hoes,” while pimps and hustlers are celebrated and education is devalued? How can we in the African-American community ever demand respect from others when we show so little of it for ourselves?

32 posted on 07/23/2013 12:59:39 PM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: rhema
The establishment view of this tragedy is that it is primarily about racial profiling, "stand your ground" laws and the relative value our society places on the lives of young black males.

The establishmented view of this tragedy is that it is primarily about racial profiling, "stand your ground" laws and the relative value our society places on the lives of young black males.

Established via the agenda-driven MSM who are trying to revise the facts to fit their narrative.

The Florida court did not allow any of Martin's school discipline, Facebook posts and twitters entered into evidence, so the MSM is treating it as if they never existed.

And we're now supposed to converse on this subject without talking about Martin's established thug past.

-PJ

33 posted on 07/23/2013 1:00:46 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

See my comment #27.


34 posted on 07/23/2013 1:01:43 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Bronzewound

Diversity doesn’t work; there has been a study proving it.
People don’t trust each other as much in a “diverse” environment, because not everyone is running under the same rules.

Homogeneous base rules of behavior are the foundation of “social capital”, where people trust each other and build up a society.

This isn’t going to happen until the Lord comes again.


35 posted on 07/23/2013 1:03:16 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Yes, he is black.


36 posted on 07/23/2013 1:03:47 PM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: rhema

“...did “profile” Martin ...”

over-used word


37 posted on 07/23/2013 1:04:08 PM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Not important, but the site is Twitter and you post Tweets not twitters.(In case you’re talking to youngsters)


38 posted on 07/23/2013 1:07:00 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Parmenio
...American Experiment, which is a conservative think tank in Minneapolis.

Why is the best thinking done in tanks? Can I get one of these thinking tanks for home and office use? Sometimes things get hectic and I can't think; maybe a tank would help.

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39 posted on 07/23/2013 1:07:42 PM PDT by Bronzewound
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To: mosaicwolf

Exactly.

I know of a school where virtually every parent is on welfare and absolutely every child is on free lunch.

Most of the kids have a transient male in the household from time to time. The dude just changes every 6 months or so.


40 posted on 07/23/2013 1:08:06 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (The Tipline for Zimmerman's Inquisition is: Sanford.florida@usdoj.gov ... Use it.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

The author seems to get the picture. Not a bad article, actually.

“While racial profiling and stereotyping can never be defended, the sad truth is hip-hop culture and rap music create, perpetuate and deepen existing stereotypes. We in the black community must understand that racial profiling, like stereotyping, is simply the application of statistical probabilities to situations in a hurried world.

The majority of African-Americans who reject this new culture in silence pay a heavy price in the unjust stereotypes they often are subjected to. But when a young black male is watched closely in a store, is it a racist action by the clerk or a rational action based on experience?

More important is the fact that young African-American men are internalizing the images our cultural leaders are modeling for them.

It is appropriate for President Obama to continue to focus on the legal issues of gun control, “stop and frisk” and stand-your-ground laws, as well as on policy questions pertaining to education and jobs. But if he really wants to move the needle, he should ask his wife to spotlight the cultural challenges facing our black youths.

As my parents used to say: “If you don’t respect yourself, no one else will.”

We in the black community must understand and embrace that simple truth.”


41 posted on 07/23/2013 1:08:13 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: rhema

In this article, the writer is a black, profiling likely perpetrators for blackness, and somehow doesn’t even realize that’s what he is doing. Hm.


42 posted on 07/23/2013 1:08:39 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: spacejunkie2001

I believe the author is black and I give him credit for writing this column.


43 posted on 07/23/2013 1:09:07 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: rhema

He’s “black”?

By what definition?

His reflectivity is relatively high...


44 posted on 07/23/2013 1:09:11 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

as TM “profiled” GZ according to Janteal.


45 posted on 07/23/2013 1:09:12 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, border)
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To: rhema

Way too much light reflectivity in that guy.

He’s actin’ white anyways.

Prolly reads cursive.


46 posted on 07/23/2013 1:10:03 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (The Tipline for Zimmerman's Inquisition is: Sanford.florida@usdoj.gov ... Use it.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
We in the black community must understand that racial profiling, like stereotyping, is simply the application of statistical probabilities to situations in a hurried world.

Key point.

If you don't like it, change those statistical probabilities.

47 posted on 07/23/2013 1:10:52 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: ealgeone
She egged Saint Skittles into attacking the creepy-#%% crackah rapist.

Without her, none of it would have happened.

48 posted on 07/23/2013 1:11:33 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

funny how none of the media’s mentioned that....wonder why??


49 posted on 07/23/2013 1:12:29 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, border)
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To: Uncle Miltie
....FATHERLESSNESS!!!

Au contraire.

Having the thug baby-daddy hang around for 20 years, in between stints in prison, isn't going to have any real positive benefit.

What would have such benefit is for the father to be a decent, hard-working man who respects himself, his woman and his responsibilities.

But then guys like that don't need to be told to be a father to their child.

50 posted on 07/23/2013 1:13:24 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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