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Blacks must also look inward, at our culture
Mpls. Star Tribune ^ | 7/22/13 | Peter Bell

Posted on 07/23/2013 12:30:22 PM PDT by rhema

How can we demand respect from others when we show so little of it for ourselves?

Everyone agrees that Trayvon Martin's death was a senseless loss of life. While we'll never know all the facts, it seems likely that George Zimmerman did "profile" Martin when he first saw him. What happened after that will forever be unknown, and, in my mind, the facts were insufficient to convict Zimmerman.

The establishment view of this tragedy is that it is primarily about racial profiling, "stand your ground" laws and the relative value our society places on the lives of young black males. Many black leaders argue that if Martin had killed Zimmerman, the verdict might have been different.

What often gets lost in this narrative is how we in the black community often contribute to our own destruction. The Martin case, tragic as it is, pales in comparison to the epidemic of black-on-black murders, which is the leading cause of death for young black men in this country. In Chicago, the murder rate is so high that it is affecting the city's credit rating. It is broadly accepted that crime in Detroit is a major reason the city is bankrupt.

Where is the outrage, the indignation, the marches for victims of black-on-black crime? The simple fact is that black thugs pose a much greater threat to me and my family than racial profiling ever will.

More important, where is the honest self-examination in the black community of how we tragically devalue our own lives? How can we build a culture of self-respect, honor and dignity when the most visible expression of black culture today is hip-hop and rap music? This malignant new form of black culture plays a dominant role in defining what it means to be an authentic young black male.

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To: ArrogantBustard

The author seems to get the picture. Not a bad article, actually.

“While racial profiling and stereotyping can never be defended, the sad truth is hip-hop culture and rap music create, perpetuate and deepen existing stereotypes. We in the black community must understand that racial profiling, like stereotyping, is simply the application of statistical probabilities to situations in a hurried world.

The majority of African-Americans who reject this new culture in silence pay a heavy price in the unjust stereotypes they often are subjected to. But when a young black male is watched closely in a store, is it a racist action by the clerk or a rational action based on experience?

More important is the fact that young African-American men are internalizing the images our cultural leaders are modeling for them.

It is appropriate for President Obama to continue to focus on the legal issues of gun control, “stop and frisk” and stand-your-ground laws, as well as on policy questions pertaining to education and jobs. But if he really wants to move the needle, he should ask his wife to spotlight the cultural challenges facing our black youths.

As my parents used to say: “If you don’t respect yourself, no one else will.”

We in the black community must understand and embrace that simple truth.”


41 posted on 07/23/2013 1:08:13 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: rhema

In this article, the writer is a black, profiling likely perpetrators for blackness, and somehow doesn’t even realize that’s what he is doing. Hm.


42 posted on 07/23/2013 1:08:39 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: spacejunkie2001

I believe the author is black and I give him credit for writing this column.


43 posted on 07/23/2013 1:09:07 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: rhema

He’s “black”?

By what definition?

His reflectivity is relatively high...


44 posted on 07/23/2013 1:09:11 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

as TM “profiled” GZ according to Janteal.


45 posted on 07/23/2013 1:09:12 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, border)
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To: rhema

Way too much light reflectivity in that guy.

He’s actin’ white anyways.

Prolly reads cursive.


46 posted on 07/23/2013 1:10:03 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (The Tipline for Zimmerman's Inquisition is: Sanford.florida@usdoj.gov ... Use it.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
We in the black community must understand that racial profiling, like stereotyping, is simply the application of statistical probabilities to situations in a hurried world.

Key point.

If you don't like it, change those statistical probabilities.

47 posted on 07/23/2013 1:10:52 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: ealgeone
She egged Saint Skittles into attacking the creepy-#%% crackah rapist.

Without her, none of it would have happened.

48 posted on 07/23/2013 1:11:33 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

funny how none of the media’s mentioned that....wonder why??


49 posted on 07/23/2013 1:12:29 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, border)
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To: Uncle Miltie
....FATHERLESSNESS!!!

Au contraire.

Having the thug baby-daddy hang around for 20 years, in between stints in prison, isn't going to have any real positive benefit.

What would have such benefit is for the father to be a decent, hard-working man who respects himself, his woman and his responsibilities.

But then guys like that don't need to be told to be a father to their child.

50 posted on 07/23/2013 1:13:24 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Uncle Miltie

Fatherlessness?

Let’s say a hard hitting truth -

it’s BASTARDITY.


51 posted on 07/23/2013 1:14:56 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
I agree ... there's much in the article that I like, and I would probably get along well with the author. But here's a deep problem that all Americans must face:

We in the black community

"Black Community" is a racist concept. So is "White Community", "Hispanic Community", "Asian Community", etc. Either we accept that to some extent we're all engaged in racist (or at least racial) thinking ... and it's OK ... and quit ranting about racism as being the greatest evil ever, or we completely abolish race-based community concepts. It's thoroughly hypocritical to identify oneself as being part of the "black community" and then complain about anybody engaging in "racism", or "racial profiling", or some such.

52 posted on 07/23/2013 1:15:35 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: rhema
While we'll never know all the facts, it seems likely that George Zimmerman did "profile" Martin when he first saw him.

If 100% of the people who had broken into Zimmerman's complex were whites with blond hair and blue eyes - and Zimmerman saw someone with blond hair and blue eyes wandering around in the rain... he would have But when the person's black - katie bar the door - we all have to pretend they're just like a Japanese man or a white woman or an Amish farmer. Well they're not. And if the guy who wrote this would take the time to read some crime statistics he might get a glimpse of reality...

Also it's not against the law to 'follow' someone - white or black. But it is against the law to deck someone because you think you were dissed. I'm so tired of liberal BS...

53 posted on 07/23/2013 1:17:20 PM PDT by GOPJ (Department of Justice to Americans:'How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?')
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To: Calvin Locke
We do know that GZ abandoned his surveilling of TM after losing sight and headed back to his vehicle.

Actually, we don't know that. It fits the known facts well, and it is probably what happened, but it isn't itself a known fact.

54 posted on 07/23/2013 1:18:25 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: rhema

I’m sick of hearing about “the real tragedy if black-on-black crime”. The real issue that concerns me is black-on-nonblack crime.

Other cultures shouldn’t be subjected to black culture’s ills. We didn’t choose them.


55 posted on 07/23/2013 1:21:37 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: MrB

“If you don’t like it, change those statistical probabilities.”

That’s what the author is saying.


56 posted on 07/23/2013 1:22:46 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: rhema
Where is the outrage, the indignation, the marches for victims of black-on-black crime? The simple fact is that black thugs pose a much greater threat to me and my family than racial profiling ever will.

I should have read further... looks like Peter Bell has a sense of the horror that's happening... and the delusions that prop it up. We might have a new Republican here in a few more years... That would be great...

Over 10,000 black men have been murdered since Zimmerman and Travon crossed paths... and there's not a word about any of 'em.

Or about honest black citizens forced to live in hellholes run by thugs, gang-bangers and corrupt politicians. Those people are the real victims. And the black sons of good people who are marked by the massive criminal behavior of their peers... So many victims of the poverty pimps and their white liberal elite enablers... so many victims...

57 posted on 07/23/2013 1:26:22 PM PDT by GOPJ (Department of Justice to Americans:'How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?')
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To: rhema

Blacks will have to deal with the problem of black on black crime. Every time whites have gotten involved, blacks yell “profiling” or “police brutality”, at their efforts. Or the “no snitchin” motto, which puts a higher premium on the solidarity of being black, than on bringing black criminals to justice. After all the years, all the programs, which whites have participated in, only to be castigated for the “racist”, “unequal” disparities in arrest and imprisonment rates, all whites can do is wash their hands of black on black crime and let blacks figure it out for themselves.

Our concern needs to be the disparity in interracial crimes-the greater number of black on white beatings, robberies, rapes, and murders, which especially stand out because of the disparity in population. Whites have a growing problem here, with a “Just-Us” Dept leading the way, in trying to tie the hands of whites in being able to exercise our right of self-defense against a black attacker. Even though black on white crimes are more numerous than the reverse, and often heinous in their overkill (packs of blacks repeatedly beating and kicking the head of a lone white victim) or brutality (the sick sadism of the Christian/Newsome torture/murders), to hear the media, you would think that whites are ambushing blacks at every turn. White men are given weeks of media time for rapes which never happened, falsely accused by black women, when the real rape statistics show roughly 100 black on white rapes per day, as opposed to statistically zero white on black rapes in the government’s own numbers.

Whites are on our own in this politically correct farce, while blacks have made it plain that any “help” in dealing with black on black crime in which whites don’t take the blame and foot the bill, will be rejected-and the rates continue to rise.

Whites need to take a page from every other race and look out for our own for a change.


58 posted on 07/23/2013 1:28:00 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: EEGator
Yeah, I knew there was a reason why I don't have an account on either. :-(

-PJ

59 posted on 07/23/2013 1:29:19 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
We in the black community

There are black colleges, black chamber of commerces, Congressional Black Caucus, black TV channels, etc., etc. These could be construed to be naturally self propagated segregational practices.

60 posted on 07/23/2013 1:30:00 PM PDT by Bronzewound
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