Posted on 07/23/2013 3:02:10 PM PDT by Nachum
On Tuesday, a unanimous three-judge panel of the US Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia ruled that Americans born in Jerusalem cannot put “Israel” as place of birth on their birth certificates. Judge Karen Henderson wrote that the president “exclusively holds the power to determine whether to recognize a foreign sovereign,” and that the president had not recognized Israeli sovereignty over Jerusalem. Congress passed a law in 2002 dictating that Americans living in Jerusalem could label their children’s birthplace “Israel,” but the State Department has refused to enforce that law for over a decade.
Over 50,000 Americans have been born in Jerusalem.
The Obama administration has consistently refused to recognize Jerusalem as Israeli territory, let alone as the capital of Israel. The Democratic National Convention platform controversially removed language regarding Israeli sovereignty over Jerusalem
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There is no problem, 70% of Jews will still vote for him.
Shamefully, no U.S. administration has recognized Jerusalem as Israel's capitol. That was a decision made by Truman, and followed by Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush I, Clinton, Bush II and Obama. That is why the U.S. Embassy is, and always has been, in Tel Aviv.
wow
More and more destruction of Israel and American Jews by Obama.
Worse of all, Obama is violating a 2002 law passed by Congress which states that Americans born in Jerusalem could list Israel as their place of birth.
His lawbreaking is in plain slight and nothing is being done and the courts are complicit.
This should be no surprise coming from a man who has successfully obfuscated his own birth place.
“That was a decision made by Truman, and followed by Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush I, Clinton, Bush II and Obama. That is why the U.S. Embassy is, and always has been, in Tel Aviv.”
This was initially an oil decision. Since, it has been for political correctness. But, as the world becomes educated that the religion of peace isn’t the pendulum will swing the other way. The finality will be when the US is oil independent. Then, Jerusalem will be Israel’s capital and our embassy will be there.
And we have elections for what reason?
And yet one cliche that I see periodically on this board is, "elections have consequences."
But they can change their birth sex.
Disgusting, but not new.
The Bush administration said that recognition is a presidential matter, and congress has no authority to intervene. The judge who wrote it is a Bush appointee. I think this is more a division of powers dispute than an anti-Israel dispute.
Although there’s not much doubt where Obama stands on Israel.
They DO allow passports to say “Jerusalem” as the place of birth, so at least nobody is forced to say that they were born in Palestine.
Obama IS a foreign sovereign!!! ;)
None of the Jews I know!
Further proof the man hates Israel and is a Muzzie
Elections do have consequences. My comment is more in line with Levin saying we should not allow ourselves to be rules by lawyers in black robes.
The Constitution gives the President the sole power to “receive Ambassadors” (Art. II, section 3), which has always been understood to mean that the President is the only one who gets to decide what foreign countries we give diplomatic recognition to. Since 1948, it has been the unbroken policy of every U.S. Administration to recognize Israel, but not to recognize Israel’s (or anyone else’s) claim to Jerusalem. So Both the Bush and Obama Administrations have refused to follow this law.
Ostensibly, the original reason was that the United Nations Resolution in 1947 that called for the partition of British Palestine into a Jewish and an Arab state called for Jerusalem (and Bethlehem) to be an "international" area, owned by no country and administered by the U.N. Neither Israel (which seized West Jerusalem in the 1948 war, and the rest of it in 1967), nor Jordan (which seized East Jerusalem and Bethlehem in 1948 and lost both of them in 1967), ever accepted this condition, but President Truman used it as a basis to decline to accept Israeli sovereignty over Jerusalem, and no President has ever changed that policy.
Congress and only congress can make law concerning citizenship.
Un-flipping-believable.
When is the dictator going to be opposed? Are all the Rs eunuchs?
Unfortunately, this story brilliantly illustrates how anti Israel Obama is, but it will not gain traction in the media.
People need to know that facts of this policy and see who Obama really represents.
And it’s not American Jews or Israel.
I go with “Hawaii” then.
I’ve been under the impression that states issue birth certificates, ever since Hawaii issued one to the Kenyan... How is it that the FedGov is involved?
Yes. They were castrated by the files the NSA has painstakingly accumulated on every single one of them.
mulsims have always preferred their slaves castrated, that's why the number one African slave importing area of all time - now called Saudi Arabia - doesn't have a race problem today.
From friends: Jews born in Jerusalem before Israel’s independence in 1948 who have become American citizens list POB as Jerusalem Palestine on their US Passports. Jews born before the Treaty of Paris when Jerusalem was part of the Ottoman empire who became American citizens listed their place of birth as Jerusalem (only). Perhaps suggesting that it was only under British occupation, that “Palestine” became known as a State.
Correction: Treaty of Paris should be Paris Peace Conference(s). Mea culpa.
Yes indeed; slaves used to be castrated often. Then they could also be trusted to guard the harems.
Shows why Congressmen and others (like the SCROTUS) need to be of upright character with no filth in their closets. Such men cannot be blackmailed.
Bush Administration argued this case.
Bush-appointed Judge
Even international law is now dead!
Huh? Since when did the State Department get to prohibit the enforcement of American law?
If it was a decade ago, this would have been under Condoleeza Rice, correct?
What law is that? I want to look it up.
Hmmmmmmmm....too bad this didn’t apply here in the USA.
There would be no “anchor babies”.
Oh, come on. American Jews have — generally speaking — jumped the shark. They voted for Obama in droves. I can’t feel sorry for anyone who voted for that POS and then ends up getting shafted by his policies and directives.
According to Israel, Jeruselam is its capitol. Maybe Israel will returm the favor to the US. Perhaps hold talks with Native Americans and Mexicans...
Maybe in 4 years you will be able to.
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This should be no surprise coming from a man who has successfully obfuscated his own birth place.
A lot of Israelis obviously don’t care either:
“Israel to Award Obama with Prestgious Medal...”
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/02/18/israel-to-award-obama-prestigious-medal-in-visit/
I understand a bit about the legalities. The problem I see is that if one is born in Jerusalem or any disputed territory what can they put on their birth certificate?
If any administration says they can only list Jerusalem, then I would be ok with that I guess. On the other hand, what about an American born in the former DDR? Can they amend their birth certificate to say Germany? What about any state that the US does not recognized diplomatically? What about an American born in Moscow in 1918? What goes on their birth certificate, USSR, Russia or what? Yes an administration receives determines foreign policy, but NOT REALITY. Reality right now is that someone born in Jerusalem is born under Israeli jurisdiction.
They get their birth certificates in Israel where you're out of your jurisdiction. Case closed.
You got me without reading the whole article. These DC judges are out of their jurisdiction in deciding what city placed on their birth certificates. Their decision here doesn't carry much weight outside the Fed government. Hey, I hear Hawaii will issue birth certificate to anyone and anything plus kumquats. Heh
Besides, they could travel to Israel and load up on reams of city of Jerusalem, Israeli birth certificates.
The article is a bit confused here. An American citizen (or U.S.- Israeli dual citizen) born in Jerusalem gets a birth certificate, which is issued by Israel and will list the place of birth as Jerusalem, Israel. U.S. law has nothing to do with this. When that child's parents go to the U.S. Embassy to have the child's birth recorded under U.S. law, to establish the child's U.S. citizenship, they do not get a birth certificate; they get a U.S. passport or similar U.S. consular document, which will say that the child is a U.S. citizen born in "Jerusalem."
I see, my passport says Texas or Waco, Texas, so I see perhaps there is no issue here. If for example Texas left the Union or Mexico conquered Texas, my US passport would still what it says now.
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