Posted on 07/24/2013 1:27:04 AM PDT by grundle
The fluid is becoming less expensive. It was around $10/gal, which is $100 for a 10 gallon tank.
It’s more the concept of a bill for replacing fluid that would never occur to someone who hadn’t owned a diesel before. I never knew about it till I read about an ambulance that refused to go because the engine shut down with no fluid.
That and it sounds preposterous, like turn signal fluid.
Rather meaningless comparison then. Apples to oranges.
Cooled and warmed by what power source?
This was discussing the installation cost. It did not include limiting the availability of charging times.
Sorry, but one has to ask: Are you nuts?? Why would I, or anyone, want to drive a car for 21 straight hours at slightly more than jogging speed? And do it with no heating or cooling? Do we forget the sound system as well?
Perhaps you meant a cumulative 21 hours in scores of neighborhood trips but that can't be done. One can't start and stop at a constant 20 mph. I rather imagine starting/stopping in an EV wrecks your mileage just as in a petro powered car.
20 mph!?!?! lol, that is just too funny. I don't doubt the statistic but sorry, that car is not for me. I like to gas up and go. Fast and hard if I need/want to.
So....do you drive a Tesla as your only car? Just wondering.
Agree that the safety and backup systems need to be in place for winter places. Anyone thinking of traveling 200 (or even 100) miles in bad weather in MN using a batteries-only car is a dam fool. Stuck in snow? Dead batteries could mean dead you.
LMAO!
I am making the point by giving a range.
Like 200 miles of range if driven like a bat out of hell with AC on.
What else?
The only power source the car has onboard.
My naybors have a hybrid, and it just failed them this past week. The battery cooler failed while returning home on a 12 hour drive. Towed to dealer, spend extra night, finally got back. She is pissed with the EV crap (very likley democrats)!!
No it is not.
Over one million Americans in the free market have spent their own money on a Prius when they could have purchased a larger car.
The TDI’s meet the same standards as gas engines with a lot more torque and close to 60mpg on the highway.
When working in tunnels that required train in and out, the diesels simply routed exhaust through onboard soap water reservoirs. Reduced noxtious emissions nicely.
So, in the winter the battery is used to heat the battery?
That surely impacts the range of the car.
Gas engines produce much less fine particle and nitrous oxide emissions than allowed by law and what is produced by the TDI.
And both gas and diesel feed the OPEC-Al Qaeda terrorist complex.
You are making the assumption they wanted a larger car.
I’m waiting for the government to require car companies to install 4 gallon gasoline tanks in cars and trucks to get us ready for the Electrical Revolution. Otherwise, it just isn’t fair...
Electric cars are very useful. They are like a flashing neon sign, blinking, “Low Information Voter! Smug! Self-righteous! Sell this man a bridge!”
Obviously it does
But the parasitic loses are held to a low level.
It is the result of serious engineering.
As Tesla gets more real world feedback they will be able to improve the efficiency.
A modern gas powered car has a maximum of 30% thermal efficiency.
You apparently don't know how electric rates work.
Utilities typically are very regulated when it comes to how much they can charge for electricity. The price is based on their costs (all of them). For example, if a utility gets sued and has to pay out a $1M settlement. It gets to roll that cost into their rate structure and then charge their customers accordingly (adding in the agreed upon profit).
THAT's why they were always so eager to participate in the various rebate programs for swapping out to more efficient lighting, etc. They got to raise rates to recover their costs plus profit. It isn't like a normal company that would simply write these costs off.
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