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State Representative Believes Trayvon Was Entitled to a Jury of His Peers (VANITY)
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Posted on 07/24/2013 7:20:06 AM PDT by TigerClaws

Jim continues discussion of the George Zimmerman trial verdict with Baton Rouge Rep. Ted James.

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8 minutes in and 23 minutes in. At 23:30 he "stakes" his law degree that Trayvon was entitled to a jury of his peers, despite a listener pointing out that, in fact, it was the defendant, Zimmerman, entitled to such Constitutional protection.

The rest of the conversation contains the usual spin mixed with falsehoods: That stand your ground had something to do with this case, that TM was an innocent child shot down, etc.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: banglist; georgezimmerman; jury; martin; peers; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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1 posted on 07/24/2013 7:20:06 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

He would have gotten one if he had not been stupid enough to attack a man with a gun


2 posted on 07/24/2013 7:21:36 AM PDT by Mr. K (4 election)
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To: TigerClaws

What an embarrassment. This idiot apparently doesn’t realize the thug is dead and he was not the one on trial. God help us.


3 posted on 07/24/2013 7:22:10 AM PDT by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: TigerClaws

His peers are all dead.


4 posted on 07/24/2013 7:22:43 AM PDT by Iron Munro (They Old. That's Old School People. We In A New School, Our Generation)
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To: TigerClaws

If this whole thing never happened, sooner or later he would have been tried by a jury of his peers.


5 posted on 07/24/2013 7:23:29 AM PDT by jughandle
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To: TigerClaws

jury of white women

Why didn’t the jury contain some blacks? Some men?

I suppose the prosecution approved of the jury’s members. Seems odd, though, that there were no blacks.


6 posted on 07/24/2013 7:23:54 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: Mr. K

If Traydown had minded his own business and just went home, we would never have had to go through this crap.


7 posted on 07/24/2013 7:24:19 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: TigerClaws

When we have representatives who couldn’t pass a basic 6th grade civics test, we have serious problems.


8 posted on 07/24/2013 7:24:29 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: TigerClaws

If he actually got his peers, they would be Tupak Shakur, Notorious BIG and other dead gangster rappers. That wouldn’t have worked out well at all.


9 posted on 07/24/2013 7:24:33 AM PDT by albie (t allowed)
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To: TigerClaws
Like this?


10 posted on 07/24/2013 7:24:55 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: cymbeline

Trayvon wasn’t on trial.


11 posted on 07/24/2013 7:25:28 AM PDT by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: albie
If he actually got his peers, they would be Tupak Shakur, Notorious BIG and other dead gangster rappers. That wouldn’t have worked out well at all.

They would have all shot each other.

12 posted on 07/24/2013 7:25:29 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: cymbeline

The prosecution knocked out one potential black juror because that person watched Fox News.


13 posted on 07/24/2013 7:25:42 AM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: cymbeline
I suppose the prosecution approved of the jury’s members. Seems odd, though, that there were no blacks.

Yep, juries are approved by both the prosecution and defense.
14 posted on 07/24/2013 7:26:02 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cymbeline

Why?

Blacks make up something like 10% of the county, its not too odd that out of 6 there would be 5 white and 1 other.

The prosecution nixed a black off the jury pool because he regularly watched Fox News.


15 posted on 07/24/2013 7:26:06 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: rockabyebaby

The defense made a good point that if he wasn’t dead Trayvon would have been on trial for assault


16 posted on 07/24/2013 7:27:09 AM PDT by Mr. K (4 election)
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To: cymbeline

1 Latino.


17 posted on 07/24/2013 7:27:33 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: TigerClaws

I’d call 911 of any of Travon’s “peers” were anywhere near my home.

Travon was a wannabe felon...and it was only a matter of time until he fulfilled his dream.

And - indeed - he could have been a young Obama.

Same lack of judgement, same stupidity.


18 posted on 07/24/2013 7:28:11 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: TigerClaws

Actually, the Rep and the caller were both wrong; neither is entitled to a jury of their “peers”. The Constitution simply entitles the defendant to an “impartial” jury, it says nothing about the makeup of the jury.


19 posted on 07/24/2013 7:28:52 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: TigerClaws

Maybe this is the reason plantation owners didn’t want them to learn to read and write.


20 posted on 07/24/2013 7:29:26 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (If you vote for evil because you can't see evil, you ARE evil!)
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To: TigerClaws

I don’t think six dead thugs would be very good jurors.


21 posted on 07/24/2013 7:29:39 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: TigerClaws
He WAS judged by a jury of his peers ... they were all Americans.

Now, if they want more .. or different .. move to another country.

22 posted on 07/24/2013 7:30:19 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: TigerClaws

If at first you don’t succeed....keep on sucking till you do suck seed.


23 posted on 07/24/2013 7:30:31 AM PDT by paint_your_wagon
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To: TigerClaws
A Jury Of TRAYVON'S PEERS would of necessity had to have included Trayvon Obama Senior and I dont think the POTUS can serve on a jury while in office can he?






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24 posted on 07/24/2013 7:30:54 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Macabre Crumpet of Caucasian Ethnicity)
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To: Mr. K

Right, but he is dead, therefore he doesn’t need a jury of his peers!


25 posted on 07/24/2013 7:31:07 AM PDT by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: TigerClaws

Just more proof that law colleges do not require at least an average IQ nor do they graduate those knowledgeable of law. Liberal bigotry and bias is acceptable to law colleges.


26 posted on 07/24/2013 7:31:54 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: cymbeline

There was a potential juror who was black.

I think the prosecution excused the juror because the juror admitted to watching Fox News.


27 posted on 07/24/2013 7:33:14 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: ConjunctionJunction

But there was a black alternate.

I think the prosecution pinned their hopes on the women because they were all mothers.

And as such - they would let emotion and sympathy overrule logic and convict Z for killing some poor mothers’s child.

Didn’t work out that way.


28 posted on 07/24/2013 7:33:26 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Da Coyote
Same Wardrobe etc.. one major difference Travyon- Born In America






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29 posted on 07/24/2013 7:34:13 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Macabre Crumpet of Caucasian Ethnicity)
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To: Da Coyote
Same Wardrobe etc.. one major difference Travyon- Born In America






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30 posted on 07/24/2013 7:34:14 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Macabre Crumpet of Caucasian Ethnicity)
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To: Responsibility2nd

It didn’t work out that way because the prosecution didn’t have a case, even so, 3 of them originally wanted to convict Zimmerman, before changing their minds....it shouldn’t have even come to that.


31 posted on 07/24/2013 7:34:42 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: cymbeline
I believe the prosecution did what they did to satisfy Corey.

The cops didn't charge Z 'cause St. Trayvon was just another dead ****** , and Z told a plausable story.

Only weeks later did al dulldumb push to rile the natives that gave Corey the idea that it should be a national trial.

I firmly believe the prosecution intentionally threw the game.

Nothing else explains all the defense witnesses the prosecution called.

32 posted on 07/24/2013 7:34:50 AM PDT by knarf (`)
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To: Iron Munro
His peers are all dead.

Not exactly...


33 posted on 07/24/2013 7:35:01 AM PDT by Gamecock (Member: NAACAC)
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To: Gamecock

"What'chu talkin' 'bout, Willis?"

34 posted on 07/24/2013 7:35:34 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: TigerClaws
At 23:30 he "stakes" his law degree

Probably didn't pass the bar exam.....

35 posted on 07/24/2013 7:36:27 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: cripplecreek

When did you come to that conclusion? When Guam tipped over?


36 posted on 07/24/2013 7:37:00 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: dfwgator

A lot of sheeple just go with the government by default, which is sad.


37 posted on 07/24/2013 7:37:06 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: TigerClaws

The real problem for a lot of people in our country nowadays, it would seem, is that the verdict came at the end of the trial and not at the beginning.


38 posted on 07/24/2013 7:38:50 AM PDT by Coyote Choir
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To: cymbeline
Seems odd, though, that there were no blacks.

There was at least one black in the jury pool who was eliminated by the prosecution.

Read more here:

ll Women Jury Selected in George Zimmerman Trial

O’Mara added that “the state struck the first Black juror and then we got our six.” He continued: “I had questions about two Black jurors on their ability to be fair and impartial and we talked about that. That’s been I think now put on the record when it comes to my thoughts and the judge agreed that they were race neutral reasons. So while people can look at it and have this reaction: there’s no Blacks on the jury, there’s no this, or there’s no that, tell me we did something wrong in the process and I’ll agree with you. If you look at this process and I’ll agree with you if you look at the process and say it was done fairly than the result was fair.”

Attorneys for Trayvon Martin’s parents issued a statement after the jury was chosen, saying:

“This case has always been about equal justice. Equal justice under the law is not a Black value or a White value. It’s an American value. With the makeup of this jury, the question of whether every American can get equal justice regardless of who serves on their jury panel will be answered. We expect the jury pool to do their duty and be fair and impartial. We firmly believe that when these jurors see the overwhelming evidence that will be put before them in the coming weeks, they will find George Zimmerman guilty of murder on the night in question.”


39 posted on 07/24/2013 7:39:25 AM PDT by Iron Munro (They Old. That's Old School People. We In A New School, Our Generation)
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To: TigerClaws

He got the next best thing —


40 posted on 07/24/2013 7:41:32 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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“overwhelming evidence” ??

They must be talking about a different case, one that had any evidence at all


41 posted on 07/24/2013 7:41:47 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: TigerClaws

If Martin had survived to be tried for the two counts of aggravated batter he racked up, I am sure he would have gotten a jury of his peers.
However, since Martin was not on trial, this isn’t relevant.


42 posted on 07/24/2013 7:42:14 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: Mr. K

At least Trayvon got to select his own jury, it was his choice of Zimmerman.


43 posted on 07/24/2013 7:42:32 AM PDT by xone
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To: cymbeline

America has an extraordinarily peculiar and, IMO, counter-productive jury selection system.

In Britain a pool of perhaps 200 is brought in, any obvious challenges dealt with, such as family members of cops, etc. Then a random jury is chosen for each trial by a computer.

I think such a system is better than our present one of spending weeks or months with the two sides competing to stack the deck.


44 posted on 07/24/2013 7:42:53 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: TigerClaws

Jim, you alma mater called. They want their diploma back.


45 posted on 07/24/2013 7:43:47 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: TigerClaws
I'm sorry for GZ, but this Trayvon Martin thing has done this country a service. It should now be obvious to every American (and to the rest of the world) how Barack Hussein Obama managed to get elected President of the United States of America, in spite of the fact that he is a Marxist, a Muslim, and Constitutionally ineligible for the office.

After watching and listening to the Justice 4 Trayvon mobs, it should be obvious that Obama followers/liberals cannot or will not analyze information for themselves and are easily led by any charlatan who steps up to the microphone.

46 posted on 07/24/2013 7:43:54 AM PDT by July4
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To: dfwgator

"Traydown, when the Guam capsized"
47 posted on 07/24/2013 7:44:14 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: July4

Watching the trial was admittedly an eye opening experience to me.

Witness after witness backed Zimmerman’s story and was patently obvious he was acting in self defense.

Yet there was this MSM narrative (concocted by the family first to cash in and then politicians to exploit racial divisions and keep their base motivated - apparently hatred is the only unifying force) that whatever the testimony was that day and whatever evidence came in, ALL of the talking heads (Nancy Grace being the worst) would keep repeating the lies over and over.

The picture of TM as a 12 year old... innocent child... did nothing wrong... hunted down... racially profiled... white vs. black.

The victim mentality has created a disconnect from reality. That’s my only explanation.

Year after year of ‘you’re a victim, racism is keeping you down, it’s the white man’ from MSM and liberal media has resulted in a psychological break from reality.

Like the dog beat when a bell rings, ANY event that remotely involves race closes down all mental faculties for lefties of all races. They immediately jump to conclusions and any information or facts contrary to their persecution complex reality are filtered out and ignored.


48 posted on 07/24/2013 7:51:52 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws
Trayvon was entitled to a jury of his peers

The THUG was not on trial, so he gets no jury of peers or otherwise. In the court of public opinion the verdict was proper because Zimmerman got a fair trial.

49 posted on 07/24/2013 7:58:45 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Obama does not know how bad he really is.)
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To: Rapscallion

His “peers” were named ‘Smith’ and ‘Wesson’.


50 posted on 07/24/2013 8:00:10 AM PDT by dfwgator
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