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Donny Deutsch asks his guests: "Am I racist?"
CNN's Piers Morgan Live ^ | July 25, 2013 | Jason Kurtz

Posted on 07/24/2013 9:49:18 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Ten days since the six female jurors rendered a "not guilty" verdict in the highly divisive George Zimmerman trial, the topic of race remains as polarizing as any in America.

With a live studio audience hanging on every word, this evening guest host Donny Deutsch asked a very provocative question: "Am I racist?"

Filling in for Piers Morgan, the television personality and "Today" show contributor had begun his inquiry by admitting that if he were to see a young, African-American male in a hoodie walking down his street, he would pause. Deutsch noted that such an occurrence would be out of context, hence his hesitation. But, he asked Star Jones, does that make him a racist:

"You would not be showing racism by just thinking it, but what you would be showing is implicit bias," explained the lawyer, and former "The View" co-host. "This is what this conversation has generated. Implicit bias is that when, because of what you've been programmed to think, when you see a young African-American man in a hoodie, or in some jeans, you immediately start to think this silly statistic that there are more Black men in jail than there are in college, when that's absolutely not true."

Seated beside Jones, "HuffPost-Live" host Marc Lamont Hill spoke to Deutsch's initial question:

"I don't think you're racist, however, I think that assumption would be racist..you have to come to terms with the fact that the assumption is racist. So many White-folk and Black-folk–there's plenty of Black folk that see a Black person in a hoodie and have the same kind of pause," he explained. "I teach at Columbia University, all my kids walk through the campus with hoodies on. Winter time, White folk wear them with shorts and hoodies. Ain't none of them robbing nobody."(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at piersmorgan.blogs.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bencrump; racism; trayvon; zimmerman
Reminds me of an old joke: Sexual harassment is whatever the office lesbian says it is.
1 posted on 07/24/2013 9:49:18 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When I see White punks in hoodies I pause too.
This is not racism, it is discrimination, which is a universal survival technique.


2 posted on 07/24/2013 9:52:58 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"I teach at Columbia University, all my kids walk through the campus with hoodies on. Winter time, White folk wear them with shorts and hoodies. Ain't none of them robbing nobody."

With grammar like this you should not be teaching anybody.

3 posted on 07/24/2013 9:54:17 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They said there are more black men in college than in jail......I find that hard to believe.


4 posted on 07/24/2013 9:56:07 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes, Donny, you’re a racist. It’s because you’re a liberal.


5 posted on 07/24/2013 9:56:10 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

the first thing that bothers me about this is when another minority, in this case deuscth, who is jewish, tries to stir the pot.
first, maybe he wants bigotry to always be on the front burner, so we never forget, so to speak.
second, as a minority, he doesn’t really know how the majority feels or thinks, so he is in no position to judge.


6 posted on 07/24/2013 9:57:09 PM PDT by willywill
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To: mylife

When I see white punks with hoodies on(wiggers) I’m actuaaly more guarded. The White punks seem to think they have something to prove and there for can be more dangerous. Especially the ones with the “I’ll never get a descent job” tattoos.


7 posted on 07/24/2013 10:03:09 PM PDT by BBell (The Blue Dog is Stupid)
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To: BBell

I hear ya.


8 posted on 07/24/2013 10:09:49 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife
This is not racism, it is discrimination, which is a universal survival technique.

Well then, I'm a discriminator. On more than one occasion I've seen black punks with hoodies sneaking up on me from the side. Until I slip my jacket aside revealing my hand on a knife at my belt. Funny how they decide to leave pronto. There's no reason to have a hoodie covering most features and sneaking up towards someone unless one is out to attack or do harm. They're not just strolling by ignoring me, they're sharks trolling for a target. This old guy won't go easy if they pounce.

9 posted on 07/24/2013 10:11:34 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When the mainstream media allows blatant racists like that Rachel Jantell (sp?) Trayvon-friend to testify in open court and accept her comments without even a raised eyebrow, the term really appears to have lost all meaning.


10 posted on 07/24/2013 10:18:47 PM PDT by Utilizer
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To: roadcat

And when some one comes into a shop with the hoodie up, the radar goes off.
A normal person would lower the hood upon entering a store.


11 posted on 07/24/2013 10:20:02 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Pontiac

He teaches at Columbia, only they would hire a moron like that to teach


12 posted on 07/24/2013 10:30:50 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: mylife
A normal person would lower the hood upon entering a store.

Yes. Some of the encounters I had were in shopping malls, where I'm sitting on a bench waiting for my wife to leave a clothing store. You don't need a hoodie up in an enclosed mall. I remember when I was young over 60 years ago, my grandfather got jumped by three stronger taller young black punks in SF. Despite being elderly with a cane, he beat the crap out of them and left them in pain on the ground. He knew judo, and was a good role model for me.

13 posted on 07/24/2013 10:41:51 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: roadcat

It is menacing behavior.


14 posted on 07/24/2013 10:46:40 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: roadcat
Tray Tray in the store in Fla.


15 posted on 07/24/2013 10:51:31 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Unless it’s blowing a gale and the rain is coming in sideways I am going to be suspicious of someone in a hoodie.

What are you hiding? We naturally scan people’s faces to see if they are friendly or not - to see if they are watching us or not - it’s part of our preservation system. Therefore when someone is hiding their face we automatically assume, without prejudice, that they are up to something and we should be wary. It doesn’t matter whether the dude is black, white or green stripped with purple polka dots.

Mel


16 posted on 07/24/2013 10:52:32 PM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Here’s the way I look at it: if four percent of the population wore a heart-shaped tattoo on their right wrist, and more than fifty percent of crimes were committed by that four percent, you would have a right, a duty, and an obligation to be suspicious of anyone, ANYONE, wearing a heart-shaped tattoo on his wrist.


17 posted on 07/24/2013 11:26:55 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Apparently being able to speak clearly and intelligently is no longer a requirement for a teaching position. I suppose that may be why only 20% of those graduating high school these days can read at an eighth grade level.


18 posted on 07/24/2013 11:27:29 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: mylife

Video footage showed a clearly apprehensive clerk.


19 posted on 07/24/2013 11:32:45 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Apparently being able to speak clearly and intelligently is no longer a requirement for a teaching position. I suppose that may be why only 20% of those graduating high school these days can read at an eighth grade level.


20 posted on 07/24/2013 11:38:26 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac
"I teach at Columbia University,
Stop right there! That's all we need to know. Remember, this is the same diploma mill that hired freind of 0 and supposedly reformed terrorist Kathy Boudin.
21 posted on 07/24/2013 11:41:08 PM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: BBell
Especially the ones with the “I’ll never get a descent job” tattoos.

I like that description. That and "human refrigerator magnets".

22 posted on 07/24/2013 11:55:12 PM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: BBell
When I see white punks with hoodies on(wiggers) I’m actuaaly more guarded. The White punks seem to think they have something to prove and there for can be more dangerous. Especially the ones with the “I’ll never get a descent job” tattoos.
Also, based on my admttedly anectodotal, unscientific observations, whether it was my old place in NY or down here in FL, both neighborhoods fairly mixed, whenever some knucklehead pulls up alongside me cranking out the hip-hop, thumping away with the bass turned up, 3/4 of the time it's some WHITE punk in a rice burner trying to act Black. CORRECTION trying to act the way he THINKS most Black people act. Fixed it.
23 posted on 07/24/2013 11:58:25 PM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: thecodont
I thought of that too.

Someone comes into a convenience store looking like that, I'd have my finger on the silent alarm button the whole time.

24 posted on 07/25/2013 12:02:52 AM PDT by boop ("You don't look so bad, here's another")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It USED to be called COMMON SENSE!!! Since 90% of the crimes are committed by YOUNG BLACK MEN, you would be STUPID NOT TO BE AFRAID!!!!


25 posted on 07/25/2013 2:22:02 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"I teach at Columbia University... Ain't none of them robbing nobody."

a person who teaches at a university saying "Ain't nobody"...? really? double negatives....

26 posted on 07/25/2013 2:25:55 AM PDT by Cronos (Latin presbuteros>Late Latin presbyter->Old English pruos->Middle Engl prest->priest)
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To: FreedomStar3028

“They said there are more black men in college than in jail......I find that hard to believe.”

That’s because it’s not true, and King Obomba continues to repeat that lie. It may have been true years ago, but no longer.

Even liberal NPR says it’s not true...

http://www.npr.org/2013/04/23/178601467/are-there-really-more-black-men-in-prison-than-college


27 posted on 07/25/2013 2:39:54 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is a stupid argument. If someone is banging my head against the concrete, am I a racist for defending myself?


28 posted on 07/25/2013 4:07:30 AM PDT by albie (re)
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To: mylife

This is not racism, it is discrimination, which is a universal survival technique.


One of the key social goals of Liberalism is to short circuit basic survival instincts and common sense. Why? Simple: those devoid of such things are easier to dupe and exploit.

Sadly, they have been surprisingly successful at this.


29 posted on 07/25/2013 4:09:58 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: thecodont

Why would anyone wear a hood indoors? Could it to be they want to conceal their face for some reason?

They call crooks “hoods” for a reason.


30 posted on 07/25/2013 4:12:46 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I might even pause if I came upon a young, hoodie-wearing black male in a wheelchair!


31 posted on 07/25/2013 4:53:04 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Best counterpoint I’ve seen yet is to turn the question around on the racist libs by asking what they would think if they saw some white kid wearing “stars and bars” coming at them?

If you look like a thug, dress like a thug, and act like a thug, people are going to treat you like a thug, no matter what your skin color is.


32 posted on 07/25/2013 5:21:57 AM PDT by kevkrom (It's not "immigration reform", it's an "amnesty bill". Take back the language!)
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