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Train in Spanish crash was 'travelling at double the speed limit'
The Telegraph ^ | 7/25/2013 | Fiona Govan

Posted on 07/25/2013 3:21:25 AM PDT by markomalley

The carriages careened off the tracks at a curve approaching the station at Santiago where the limit is set at 80 km per hour (50mph).

But one of the drivers has admitted that the train took the curve at a speed of around 190km per hour, according to local media reports quoting sources close to the investigation.

Alberto Nunez Feijoo, president of the region of Galicia, described the scene as "Dante-esque".

"I saw a woman who had lost one foot," said Lidia Cannon, a tourist visiting the local fiesta. "But instead of crying or shouting or whatever because of the pain she was looking very, very serious. She was in shock."

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: highspeedrail; highspeedtrain; rail; spain; trainwreck
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1 posted on 07/25/2013 3:21:25 AM PDT by markomalley
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2 posted on 07/25/2013 3:27:57 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: markomalley

Bush’s fault!


3 posted on 07/25/2013 3:32:26 AM PDT by Darteaus94025
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To: markomalley

I saw an article on this last night (nothing on FR, though it may be here), and that article listed recent train tragedies in Europe; amazing how many people have died on trains there in the last decade. And that doesn’t take into account train messes in places like India.

I first thought of Spain’s terror group, but this doesn’t seem to be that?


4 posted on 07/25/2013 3:32:40 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: ican'tbelieveit
I first thought of Spain’s terror group, but this doesn’t seem to be that?

That would be the Basque separatists. The train seems to have derailed because it was going too fast.

I seem to recall that the Basques are very targeted when committing terror acts. They do not attack random people.

5 posted on 07/25/2013 3:52:14 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: markomalley

The trains in Spain crash mainly on the plains


6 posted on 07/25/2013 4:50:15 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: markomalley

I’ve ridden many times on Spanish trains. They are clean, comfortable and have remarkable on-time performance. I wonder if this train was running late and the driver felt compelled to speed up to arrive on time. Whatever the reason, this is horrifying.


7 posted on 07/25/2013 5:18:27 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: markomalley

video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o32nxuHshv4


8 posted on 07/25/2013 5:27:02 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: markomalley

But it’s a mighty rough road from Lynchburg to Danville
And from Lima it’s on a three mile grade
It was on that grade that he lost his air brakes
see what a jump he made

He was goin’ down the grade makin’ 90 miles an hour
When his whistle broke into a scream
He was found in the wreck with his hand on the throttle
A scalded to death by the steam

Then the telegram come to Washington station
and this is how it read
Oh that brave engineer that run old 97
he’s a layin’ in old Danville dead


9 posted on 07/25/2013 5:36:49 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: markomalley
Yikes:


10 posted on 07/25/2013 5:39:36 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: markomalley

Every kid who ever had a train set or slot cars knows this. Something went wrong with the controls or the driver.

They’re saying no terrorism, but why couldn’t it be?


11 posted on 07/25/2013 5:41:26 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: markomalley
But one of the drivers has admitted that the train took the curve at a speed of around 190km per hour

Trying to show off some of his Fernando Alonso moves?

12 posted on 07/25/2013 6:01:34 AM PDT by Moltke (Sapere aude!)
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What an Asshole. This is terriable. :(
13 posted on 07/25/2013 6:07:22 AM PDT by angcat
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Waa. LOL


14 posted on 07/25/2013 6:10:04 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: ican'tbelieveit
amazing how many people have died on trains

Doubtful India would keep tallies of the number who died falling off trains. Yes, under there somewhere is a train.


15 posted on 07/25/2013 6:15:09 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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"The driver of the train made a panicked phone call moments before the crash saying that the train was going too fast.

"I'm at 190 (kmph) and I'm going to derail!" the engine driver told the controllers of RENFE, the rail network.

Two men were at the controls of the train at the time, and it was not clear who had made the call."


Huh?!
16 posted on 07/25/2013 6:16:27 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: ican'tbelieveit

I have a friend from Europe who thought America was foolish for not investing heavily in rail transportation. Then she came here and found out that America is too big to move everyone where they want to go by train. However she does say that a lot of places in Europe are effectively off limits to people who don’t own or rent a car.


17 posted on 07/25/2013 6:17:08 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: jaydubya2

“Casey Jones you’d better watch your speed.”


18 posted on 07/25/2013 6:19:04 AM PDT by dfwgator
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A simple lesson in physics would suffice.


19 posted on 07/25/2013 6:24:45 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: exDemMom

Don’t forget the Al Qaida attack on the trains in Spain which got blamed on the Basques. The voters responded by electing a socialist government.


20 posted on 07/25/2013 6:57:22 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Wyatt's Torch

Wow


21 posted on 07/25/2013 7:06:42 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: Vigilanteman

ETA and AQ are two entirely different groups.


22 posted on 07/25/2013 7:08:30 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: Resolute Conservative

Maybe the engineer tried to brake to late? If you have ever pulled a trailer it tends to keep moving even you want to stop. Looks like too fast on the curve and too late to slow down.
Centrifugal force does not discriminate nor angular velocity. Take your pick to parse.


23 posted on 07/25/2013 7:50:13 AM PDT by glyptol
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To: HollyB

I know. But somehow, the ruling government thought it would be more PC to blame ETA for the Madrid train bombings which turned out to be AQ. Who do you suppose gave them that idea?


24 posted on 07/25/2013 8:12:52 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: cripplecreek

Neither driver could slow down hte train, it seems. They had time to report teh looming accident and the cause.

Was this “Super-Dooper, Extra-Modern, High Speed Train” computer controlled?

If so, could the crash have been the result of:
1. Program error.
2. Operator error.
3. Malware


25 posted on 07/25/2013 8:50:44 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam is antithetical to, and Islam is irreconcilable with, America. Therefore - Islam Delenda Est)
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To: Vigilanteman

Good point.


26 posted on 07/25/2013 8:55:01 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: bert

When I was a kid we had a different version, the second verse started somethinglike:
He was goin’ down the hill makin’ ninety miles an hour
When the chain on his bicycle broke
They found him in the grass....

I’ll leave the rest to your imagination.


27 posted on 07/25/2013 11:53:53 AM PDT by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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To: cripplecreek

People can be amazingly foolish regarding transportation, I read an essay once that was written by some professor who thought he was demonstrating his brilliance when he said that no product that people really needed required advertising. He claimed that cars only needed to be advertised because, “No one needs a car”. I thought it demonstrated an astounding ignorance of reality in modern America to think that people who work for very low wages spend large portions of their meager income to buy used cars that they really have no need for. I figured such an article could only be written by someone who has spent his entire life living in the inner part of some huge city. It makes no more sense than saying that people didn’t need horses or mules in 1850.


28 posted on 07/25/2013 12:03:03 PM PDT by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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To: RipSawyer

There’s a lot of local debate about bike lanes in the county. Its amazing how many urban liberals really believe that bicycles are”the future of transportation”.


29 posted on 07/25/2013 12:07:58 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: RipSawyer

Tickled to death by a spoke

Kingston Trio?


30 posted on 07/25/2013 12:17:13 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: bert

Slightly different but there was a spoke involved 8>)


31 posted on 07/25/2013 12:39:38 PM PDT by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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To: glyptol
Centrifugal force does not discriminate nor angular velocity.

7.7 m/s2 or close to 0.8 g, seems incredible. Did I make a mistake? The location is from a Google News link to the NYT.


32 posted on 07/25/2013 7:24:23 PM PDT by dr_lew
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