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Freedom Party--What Would it Look like?

Posted on 07/25/2013 8:49:59 AM PDT by cradle of freedom

There has been talk about having a new party, some have called it the Freedom Party. If there were to be a Freedom Party what would be the party platforms?

Here are some thoughts that I have and I would welcome your suggestions.

1) Based on the Constitution 2) Government that serves not rules people 3) Restoring power to the individual citizen, towns and states 4)Respect for life from conception to natural death 5) Respects moral institutions based on the Ten Commandments 6) Respect for the hard earned money of the tax payers 7) Protecting self defense and 2nd Ammendment rights 8) An immigration policy that is based on what is good for Americans


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: freedomparty; palin; vanity

1 posted on 07/25/2013 8:49:59 AM PDT by cradle of freedom
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To: cradle of freedom

Well this is at least a start in the right direction. Tired of hearing the talk, wanna see some action.


2 posted on 07/25/2013 8:52:41 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead...)
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To: cradle of freedom
We know exactly what it looks like
3 posted on 07/25/2013 8:52:52 AM PDT by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.))
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To: areukiddingme1

They wear funny short pants?

Okay! I’d still join. But no powdered wigs, I have to draw a line somewhere.


4 posted on 07/25/2013 8:54:36 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: cradle of freedom

We need a presidential candidate who wants to be an administrator and not a leader.

Americans do not need a leader, and the world certainly doesn’t want one either.

The American president needs to be an administrator of finances only, a CFO.


5 posted on 07/25/2013 8:54:54 AM PDT by gotribe (Vladimir Putin is MY President)
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To: cradle of freedom

Sounds a lot like the Constitution Party platform

http://www.constitutionparty.com/


6 posted on 07/25/2013 8:56:17 AM PDT by sneakers
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To: All

How about supporting the ideas found in the Constitution and the republican principals of the nation’s founding? No need to reinvent the wheel, just explain to people exactly what it is.

A true party of “Freedom” would look very libertarian in nature, and turn a lot of people off, because the operative word associated with “freedom” is “responsibility”


7 posted on 07/25/2013 8:57:29 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: sneakers; EternalVigilance

There are a few of these small parties that can be merged into one national third party


8 posted on 07/25/2013 8:57:33 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: All

Change #8 to: ENFORCE an immigration policy that is good for America and Americans.


9 posted on 07/25/2013 8:58:54 AM PDT by Boonie
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To: Turbo Pig

There is already a libertopian party focused on celebrating drugs and lewdness. We do not need another. We need a party that believes in traditional conservatism.


10 posted on 07/25/2013 8:59:00 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: areukiddingme1

11 posted on 07/25/2013 9:02:31 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: cradle of freedom

There are already lots of 3rd parties, why would you think a new one would go anywhere? What about all the hype about the Constitution party last election cycle? It utterly bombed, just like anyone who understands why 3rd parties don’t work in the US predicted.

There’s not going to be a viable 3rd party. Period. Even Ron Paul and Lyndon LaRouche figured this out.


12 posted on 07/25/2013 9:03:08 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Turbo Pig

It would be conservative, the problem with the GOP is that it is becoming libertarian and losing it’s conservative base.

The GOP is losing voters for being anti-conservative, not pro-conservative.

We want the whole conservative package, economic and cultural, aside from our traditional American religious beliefs, social liberalism literally creates and breeds economically liberal voters and socialists.


13 posted on 07/25/2013 9:15:16 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Santorum appeared on CBS and pronounced George Zimmerman guilty of murder, first degree. March-2012)
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To: Longbow1969

That is very pessimistic view. I think, Tea Party success is contrary to your point. All that is missing is a charismatic leader with clear program to organize Tea Party into real political power. As of multitude of smaller parties - there is nothing wrong with political coalitions, works fine in Europe.


14 posted on 07/25/2013 9:19:16 AM PDT by Samogon (Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. - Plato)
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To: gotribe
We need a presidential candidate who wants to be an administrator and not a leader.

A president is supposed to preside, and lead -- not dictate.

Leadership is a positive influence, and one rarely seen.

15 posted on 07/25/2013 9:19:49 AM PDT by meadsjn
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To: cradle of freedom

Our nation was founded on a freedom of religion plank, and this “freedom” plank doesn’t meet that standard.


16 posted on 07/25/2013 9:20:15 AM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: cradle of freedom

You can’t have a government based on the constitution, and also have one based on the Ten commandments. It violates freedom of religion. This is exactly what the founding fathers warned against.


17 posted on 07/25/2013 9:20:15 AM PDT by theodoricruin (A bad idea)
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To: cradle of freedom

Our nation was founded on a freedom of religion plank, and this “freedom” plank doesn’t meet that standard.


18 posted on 07/25/2013 9:20:21 AM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: cradle of freedom

the Bible. the Declaration and it’s feeder documents from various founders. the Constitution/Bill of Rights and it’s various feeder documents from the framers and founders.

some modern imputs like the tea party Contract from America. Levin’s books, etc.

that’s it.


19 posted on 07/25/2013 9:22:22 AM PDT by dadfly
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To: cradle of freedom; dadfly

i should add that the Constitution’s input would be limited to the original founding document and selected amendments mostly pre 1900.


20 posted on 07/25/2013 9:24:28 AM PDT by dadfly
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To: ansel12

yes. another person who gets what is happening to the GOP. it is becoming libertarian.


21 posted on 07/25/2013 9:26:08 AM PDT by dadfly
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To: cradle of freedom; holdonnow; Biggirl; Fudd Fan
Freedom Party - I like the sound of this!

Still want to keep Tea Party...can they be 2 sides of one coin?

22 posted on 07/25/2013 9:27:02 AM PDT by hummingbird (THE LIBERTY AMENDMENTS by Mark Levin. He has a great plan!)
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To: areukiddingme1; holdonnow; Biggirl; Fudd Fan
What would Freedom Party look like?

See post #3!!!

23 posted on 07/25/2013 9:29:06 AM PDT by hummingbird (THE LIBERTY AMENDMENTS by Mark Levin. He has a great plan!)
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To: gotribe
Have you taken a look around the world recently? A weak President and weak America makes for a very bad world economy. A good President surrounds themselves with people who can handle the Presidents appointed tasks, they would appoint a "CFO" to administer while the President himself is busy running the country and returning us to the status of leader of the free world.

Surround yourself with the best people you can find, delegate authority, and don't interfere as long as the policy you've decided upon is being carried out.

Ronald Reagan

24 posted on 07/25/2013 9:30:51 AM PDT by Ghost of SVR4
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To: cradle of freedom
America's Party

Platform

25 posted on 07/25/2013 9:32:42 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Life. Liberty. Property. Marriage. Family. Sovereignty. Security. Borders. The Oath.)
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To: Longbow1969
There’s not going to be a viable 3rd party. Period.

You are correct. The election laws in the US, unlike those in Europe, make it very difficult for 3rd parties to compete.

Bet let's suppose for a moment that there could be a viable 3rd party. That would be a dream scenario for the Democrats! They'd love it!

Because there will be some conservatives who will be upset with the GOP and go 3rd party. And there will be some conservatives who will be upset with the 3rd party and stay with the GOP.

End result? The dem's win every election of any importance.

The only way out is to somehow replace the current GOP elite. Palin had a shot at that, but for various reasons it didn't happen.

So I'm just hoping another Palin or Reagan appears on the national scene. I can't see any other solution that works.

26 posted on 07/25/2013 9:33:05 AM PDT by Leaning Right
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To: Longbow1969
"There’s not going to be a viable 3rd party."

Could Freedom Party take the place of Republican party?

Primary out RINOe and replace with FP candidates.

The Republican Party is no longer what the Republican Party used to be anyway.

27 posted on 07/25/2013 9:33:27 AM PDT by hummingbird (THE LIBERTY AMENDMENTS by Mark Levin. He has a great plan!)
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To: ansel12

Ditto.


28 posted on 07/25/2013 9:34:03 AM PDT by hummingbird (THE LIBERTY AMENDMENTS by Mark Levin. He has a great plan!)
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To: cradle of freedom

This is what I wrote in 2010, I believe, with regard to the Tea Party. I still believe that this is what we need:

“The tea party is not another political party. It is a group of like-minded individuals who have similar goals, ideals and objectives.

It’s a movement that calls for changes - smaller limited government, drastically reduced gov’t. spending, less taxes, a secure border, state’s rights, strong national defense.

We want our basic freedoms and liberties protected including gun ownership, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and protection of our property rights.

We are comprised of persons from all political venues, from all parts of the country, from all races and genders, all ages with the above issues special to our hearts foremost in our minds as we start the process of cleaning house.

Cleaning house the likes of which has never been seen. On both sides of the aisle. We don’t have the time or the desire to fight amongst ourselves.

Our focus should be laser sharp and pointed at any element in any area of government that does not represent the Constitution or the freedom of American people.” —MWESTMOM 2010


29 posted on 07/25/2013 9:36:45 AM PDT by MWestMom (Psalms 109:8)
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To: cradle of freedom

A little wordsmithing to make it absolutely clear:
1) ABIDE BY AND ENFORCE the Constitution
2) Government that IS LIMITED TO SERVING not DICTATING TO people
3) Restore power to the individual citizen, towns and states 4) PROTECT life from conception to natural death
5) Respect moral institutions based on the Ten Commandments 6) LIMIT SPENDING TO WHAT THE GOVERNMENT TAKES IN. ALL TAX INCREASES ARE TO VOTED ON NATIONALLY.
7) Protect self defense and MAINTAIN 2nd Amendment rights
8) ENFORCE immigration policy that REWARDS THOSE WHO COME HERE LEGALLY AND DEPORTS THOSE WHO COME ILLEGALLY.

Just my two cents.

And for the NSA trolls, FU.


30 posted on 07/25/2013 9:38:56 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: cradle of freedom

Dismantling the ability of the Federal Bureaucracy to produce rules with the force of law which have never had an up-or-down vote in the Congress.


31 posted on 07/25/2013 9:40:37 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: cradle of freedom

Here are my suggestions for a party platform.

*Rule of Law

*Constitutional Originalism

*Individual Liberty

*Individual Responsibility

*Individual Property Rights

*Capitalism

*Strong Military

*Decrease Central Authority

*Increase Federalism

*US Interests trump all others

*Balanced Budgets

*Reduce Spending

*Lower Taxes

*Austrian School Economics

*Pro strong 2nd Amendment

*Eliminate the Department of Education

*Eliminate the Department of Energy

*Eliminate the Department of Commerce

*Eliminate the Department of Agriculture

*Overturn Obamacare

*Fix Healthcare with free market competition

*NO on Abortion

*NO on Euthanasia

*NO on Amnesty for illegal immigrants- Yes on legal immigration

*NO on Homosexual Marriage- Yes on Family Values

*NO on Affirmative Action- Yes on performance based equal treatment

*NO on ‘Social Justice’ (socialism)- Yes on Equal Justice under the law

*NO on Perpetual Welfare- Yes on a reasonable and limited Social Safety Net

*NO on wasteful investment in high speed Rail, Wind and Solar Energy-

*Yes on Drilling in ANWR and Offshore, Clean Coal, Fracking and Energy Independence

*Anthropogenic Global Warming is a hoax- Climate Change has been part of earth’s history for millennia

*Intelligent Profiling for terrorist threats

*Protect Social Security- Choice of investment vehicle- Means testing

Principled societal framework must not compromise to accommodate the whims of society’s members it regulates. Society’s members must compromise themselves to live within the proven structure or else dystopian anarchy results.


32 posted on 07/25/2013 9:42:45 AM PDT by DWar ("The ultimate destination of Political Correctness is totalitarianism.")
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To: Longbow1969

It would be nice to have a viable 2nd party. What passes for Party #2 is just a sect of the ruling party, perfectly willing to moan and groan, but not really interested in governing.

It’s all bread and circuses anyway, just meant to placate the rabble and nothing ever changes.

And for the NSA trolls, FU.


33 posted on 07/25/2013 9:44:46 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: cradle of freedom
Unfortunately it will look small and impotent dividing votes among other small splinter parties. SORRY.
34 posted on 07/25/2013 9:48:12 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: DWar

We don’t need legal immigration, we need to end the colonization of America period. It really makes little difference if the next 100 or 500 million foreigners are legal or not, it still is a tidal wave that we cannot Americanize, and they will still vote democrat.


35 posted on 07/25/2013 9:58:42 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Santorum appeared on CBS and pronounced George Zimmerman guilty of murder, first degree. March-2012)
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To: cradle of freedom

***DONT CALL IT THE FREEDOM PARTY***


36 posted on 07/25/2013 10:01:05 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: gotribe

I believe we need leaders who will appoint administrators who will follow the leaders and support them.


37 posted on 07/25/2013 10:25:21 AM PDT by winkadink (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. George Orwell)
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To: ansel12

Zero immigration policy would shoot ourselves in the foot. We need engineers, doctors, technicians and American citizens are not graduating with those degrees in sufficient numbers to fill the positions needed. Unrestricted immigration and America will be overwhelmed. Zero immigration and America will not be able to grow or soon function. We need a slow growth immigration policy that favors occupations we need and allows time for integration and assimilation into American culture.


38 posted on 07/25/2013 10:32:10 AM PDT by DWar ("The ultimate destination of Political Correctness is totalitarianism.")
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To: GeronL

I’m drawling the line at those white pantyhose. Lee Straightleg Jeans for everyone.


39 posted on 07/25/2013 10:37:14 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.)
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To: cradle of freedom

It would look like a waste of votes. We need to take over or replace the current party. We don’t need a vote splitting (dem-electing) party.


40 posted on 07/25/2013 10:38:04 AM PDT by Phillyred
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To: Longbow1969

A third party has and can influnce policy. the prohibition Party helped to cause the Prohibition movement (that proved a failure) the Anti-Slavery parties helped to bring this before the national population. This is the respectible rational for a 3rd Party. Sometimes they even become one of the two, replacing a failed party, Republicans replaced Whigs for instance. The Freedom party is much more than a one note wonder. Here the people can see that smaler government can work without falling into ruin. We need “big” government for an Army and Navy, to keep up the big roads and to set standards in education. I see the best way to go as a return to the 1950s-—Smaller, less intrusive government. Or better yet—more like the Government in 1925. But not 1825. The States need to be given power to experiment with new systems—in this Mittens was right. the 10th Amendment needs to be enforced from abortion to welfare etc.. But, the states must pay their own bills! Taxes must be lowered and maybe congress put on part/time.


41 posted on 07/25/2013 10:47:25 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: DWar

First zero immigration allows for a few thousands of immigrants for various reasons, as far as needing skilled help because America can’t produce it’s own, thank immigration for that.

America was doing fine a 120 million people ago. The United States is behind only China and India in population.

We need to end immigration, in your post you wanted to end illegal immigration and made a point of wanting our continued flood of legal immigrants.


42 posted on 07/25/2013 10:54:00 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Santorum appeared on CBS and pronounced George Zimmerman guilty of murder, first degree. March-2012)
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To: cradle of freedom
How to become an ex-General:

“We are surrounded and losing . What should we do General?”

“Divide our forces in half and let that half do it's own thing!”

The moral of this tale: As much as the Republicn Party has let us all down the answer is to change the party rather than split our forces before a determined and relentless enemy.

43 posted on 07/25/2013 10:56:47 AM PDT by Nateman (If liberals are not screaming you are doing it wrong!t happened world wide.)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Mittens went libertarian to defend and promote his pro-gay, pro-abortion, agenda.

Libertarians also support the agenda at the federal level and all levels of government, from the school board to the presidency, homosexualizing the military, immigration, the FBI and federal employment, fighting DOMA and DADT.


44 posted on 07/25/2013 11:00:49 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Santorum appeared on CBS and pronounced George Zimmerman guilty of murder, first degree. March-2012)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
I see the best way to go as a return to the 1950s

No thanks. The 50's featured 90% top tax rates and the explosive growth of unions. We got away with terrible policies in the 50's because the rest of the world was still basically destroyed after WW2. Once everyone else got on their feet, it became more difficult to compete and we had to shed some of those awful policies of the 50's.

45 posted on 07/25/2013 11:39:51 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: hummingbird

Tea Party is a movement—the Freedom Party would be an actual political party.


46 posted on 07/25/2013 1:05:53 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: ansel12

You are just looking for an argument. I said in my response to you what I want in regards to immigration. If you have an axe to grind so be it. But don’t paint me as your straw man. I don’t believe in the ideas you attribute to me. Have a nice day!


47 posted on 07/25/2013 9:18:03 PM PDT by DWar ("The ultimate destination of Political Correctness is totalitarianism.")
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To: DWar
*NO on Amnesty for illegal immigrants- Yes on legal immigration

It sure looked to me as though you posted, no amnesty for the illegals here, but keep the legals coming.

48 posted on 07/25/2013 9:27:16 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Santorum appeared on CBS and pronounced George Zimmerman guilty of murder, first degree. March-2012)
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To: winkadink

Sorry, but I for one do not need a leader. What are you lacking that you need a leader?


49 posted on 07/26/2013 3:29:39 AM PDT by gotribe (Vladimir Putin is MY President)
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To: theodoricruin

Wrong. Watch a little real history, perhaps Monumental. Christianity played a major role in the beginnings and formation of this country.


50 posted on 07/26/2013 12:19:26 PM PDT by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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