Posted on 07/25/2013 8:49:59 AM PDT by cradle of freedom
There has been talk about having a new party, some have called it the Freedom Party. If there were to be a Freedom Party what would be the party platforms?
Here are some thoughts that I have and I would welcome your suggestions.
1) Based on the Constitution 2) Government that serves not rules people 3) Restoring power to the individual citizen, towns and states 4)Respect for life from conception to natural death 5) Respects moral institutions based on the Ten Commandments 6) Respect for the hard earned money of the tax payers 7) Protecting self defense and 2nd Ammendment rights 8) An immigration policy that is based on what is good for Americans
Well this is at least a start in the right direction. Tired of hearing the talk, wanna see some action.
They wear funny short pants?
Okay! I’d still join. But no powdered wigs, I have to draw a line somewhere.
We need a presidential candidate who wants to be an administrator and not a leader.
Americans do not need a leader, and the world certainly doesn’t want one either.
The American president needs to be an administrator of finances only, a CFO.
How about supporting the ideas found in the Constitution and the republican principals of the nation’s founding? No need to reinvent the wheel, just explain to people exactly what it is.
A true party of “Freedom” would look very libertarian in nature, and turn a lot of people off, because the operative word associated with “freedom” is “responsibility”
There are a few of these small parties that can be merged into one national third party
Change #8 to: ENFORCE an immigration policy that is good for America and Americans.
There is already a libertopian party focused on celebrating drugs and lewdness. We do not need another. We need a party that believes in traditional conservatism.
There are already lots of 3rd parties, why would you think a new one would go anywhere? What about all the hype about the Constitution party last election cycle? It utterly bombed, just like anyone who understands why 3rd parties don’t work in the US predicted.
There’s not going to be a viable 3rd party. Period. Even Ron Paul and Lyndon LaRouche figured this out.
It would be conservative, the problem with the GOP is that it is becoming libertarian and losing it’s conservative base.
The GOP is losing voters for being anti-conservative, not pro-conservative.
We want the whole conservative package, economic and cultural, aside from our traditional American religious beliefs, social liberalism literally creates and breeds economically liberal voters and socialists.
That is very pessimistic view. I think, Tea Party success is contrary to your point. All that is missing is a charismatic leader with clear program to organize Tea Party into real political power. As of multitude of smaller parties - there is nothing wrong with political coalitions, works fine in Europe.
A president is supposed to preside, and lead -- not dictate.
Leadership is a positive influence, and one rarely seen.
Our nation was founded on a freedom of religion plank, and this “freedom” plank doesn’t meet that standard.
You can’t have a government based on the constitution, and also have one based on the Ten commandments. It violates freedom of religion. This is exactly what the founding fathers warned against.
Our nation was founded on a freedom of religion plank, and this “freedom” plank doesn’t meet that standard.
the Bible. the Declaration and it’s feeder documents from various founders. the Constitution/Bill of Rights and it’s various feeder documents from the framers and founders.
some modern imputs like the tea party Contract from America. Levin’s books, etc.
that’s it.
i should add that the Constitution’s input would be limited to the original founding document and selected amendments mostly pre 1900.
yes. another person who gets what is happening to the GOP. it is becoming libertarian.
Still want to keep Tea Party...can they be 2 sides of one coin?
See post #3!!!
Surround yourself with the best people you can find, delegate authority, and don't interfere as long as the policy you've decided upon is being carried out.
Ronald Reagan
You are correct. The election laws in the US, unlike those in Europe, make it very difficult for 3rd parties to compete.
Bet let's suppose for a moment that there could be a viable 3rd party. That would be a dream scenario for the Democrats! They'd love it!
Because there will be some conservatives who will be upset with the GOP and go 3rd party. And there will be some conservatives who will be upset with the 3rd party and stay with the GOP.
End result? The dem's win every election of any importance.
The only way out is to somehow replace the current GOP elite. Palin had a shot at that, but for various reasons it didn't happen.
So I'm just hoping another Palin or Reagan appears on the national scene. I can't see any other solution that works.
Could Freedom Party take the place of Republican party?
Primary out RINOe and replace with FP candidates.
The Republican Party is no longer what the Republican Party used to be anyway.
Ditto.
This is what I wrote in 2010, I believe, with regard to the Tea Party. I still believe that this is what we need:
“The tea party is not another political party. It is a group of like-minded individuals who have similar goals, ideals and objectives.
It’s a movement that calls for changes - smaller limited government, drastically reduced gov’t. spending, less taxes, a secure border, state’s rights, strong national defense.
We want our basic freedoms and liberties protected including gun ownership, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and protection of our property rights.
We are comprised of persons from all political venues, from all parts of the country, from all races and genders, all ages with the above issues special to our hearts foremost in our minds as we start the process of cleaning house.
Cleaning house the likes of which has never been seen. On both sides of the aisle. We don’t have the time or the desire to fight amongst ourselves.
Our focus should be laser sharp and pointed at any element in any area of government that does not represent the Constitution or the freedom of American people.” —MWESTMOM 2010
A little wordsmithing to make it absolutely clear:
1) ABIDE BY AND ENFORCE the Constitution
2) Government that IS LIMITED TO SERVING not DICTATING TO people
3) Restore power to the individual citizen, towns and states 4) PROTECT life from conception to natural death
5) Respect moral institutions based on the Ten Commandments 6) LIMIT SPENDING TO WHAT THE GOVERNMENT TAKES IN. ALL TAX INCREASES ARE TO VOTED ON NATIONALLY.
7) Protect self defense and MAINTAIN 2nd Amendment rights
8) ENFORCE immigration policy that REWARDS THOSE WHO COME HERE LEGALLY AND DEPORTS THOSE WHO COME ILLEGALLY.
Just my two cents.
And for the NSA trolls, FU.
Dismantling the ability of the Federal Bureaucracy to produce rules with the force of law which have never had an up-or-down vote in the Congress.
Here are my suggestions for a party platform.
*Rule of Law
*Constitutional Originalism
*Individual Liberty
*Individual Responsibility
*Individual Property Rights
*Capitalism
*Strong Military
*Decrease Central Authority
*Increase Federalism
*US Interests trump all others
*Balanced Budgets
*Reduce Spending
*Lower Taxes
*Austrian School Economics
*Pro strong 2nd Amendment
*Eliminate the Department of Education
*Eliminate the Department of Energy
*Eliminate the Department of Commerce
*Eliminate the Department of Agriculture
*Overturn Obamacare
*Fix Healthcare with free market competition
*NO on Abortion
*NO on Euthanasia
*NO on Amnesty for illegal immigrants- Yes on legal immigration
*NO on Homosexual Marriage- Yes on Family Values
*NO on Affirmative Action- Yes on performance based equal treatment
*NO on ‘Social Justice’ (socialism)- Yes on Equal Justice under the law
*NO on Perpetual Welfare- Yes on a reasonable and limited Social Safety Net
*NO on wasteful investment in high speed Rail, Wind and Solar Energy-
*Yes on Drilling in ANWR and Offshore, Clean Coal, Fracking and Energy Independence
*Anthropogenic Global Warming is a hoax- Climate Change has been part of earth’s history for millennia
*Intelligent Profiling for terrorist threats
*Protect Social Security- Choice of investment vehicle- Means testing
Principled societal framework must not compromise to accommodate the whims of society’s members it regulates. Society’s members must compromise themselves to live within the proven structure or else dystopian anarchy results.
It would be nice to have a viable 2nd party. What passes for Party #2 is just a sect of the ruling party, perfectly willing to moan and groan, but not really interested in governing.
It’s all bread and circuses anyway, just meant to placate the rabble and nothing ever changes.
And for the NSA trolls, FU.
We don’t need legal immigration, we need to end the colonization of America period. It really makes little difference if the next 100 or 500 million foreigners are legal or not, it still is a tidal wave that we cannot Americanize, and they will still vote democrat.
***DONT CALL IT THE FREEDOM PARTY***
I believe we need leaders who will appoint administrators who will follow the leaders and support them.
Zero immigration policy would shoot ourselves in the foot. We need engineers, doctors, technicians and American citizens are not graduating with those degrees in sufficient numbers to fill the positions needed. Unrestricted immigration and America will be overwhelmed. Zero immigration and America will not be able to grow or soon function. We need a slow growth immigration policy that favors occupations we need and allows time for integration and assimilation into American culture.
I’m drawling the line at those white pantyhose. Lee Straightleg Jeans for everyone.
It would look like a waste of votes. We need to take over or replace the current party. We don’t need a vote splitting (dem-electing) party.
A third party has and can influnce policy. the prohibition Party helped to cause the Prohibition movement (that proved a failure) the Anti-Slavery parties helped to bring this before the national population. This is the respectible rational for a 3rd Party. Sometimes they even become one of the two, replacing a failed party, Republicans replaced Whigs for instance. The Freedom party is much more than a one note wonder. Here the people can see that smaler government can work without falling into ruin. We need “big” government for an Army and Navy, to keep up the big roads and to set standards in education. I see the best way to go as a return to the 1950s-—Smaller, less intrusive government. Or better yet—more like the Government in 1925. But not 1825. The States need to be given power to experiment with new systems—in this Mittens was right. the 10th Amendment needs to be enforced from abortion to welfare etc.. But, the states must pay their own bills! Taxes must be lowered and maybe congress put on part/time.
First zero immigration allows for a few thousands of immigrants for various reasons, as far as needing skilled help because America can’t produce it’s own, thank immigration for that.
America was doing fine a 120 million people ago. The United States is behind only China and India in population.
We need to end immigration, in your post you wanted to end illegal immigration and made a point of wanting our continued flood of legal immigrants.
“We are surrounded and losing . What should we do General?”
“Divide our forces in half and let that half do it's own thing!”
The moral of this tale: As much as the Republicn Party has let us all down the answer is to change the party rather than split our forces before a determined and relentless enemy.
Mittens went libertarian to defend and promote his pro-gay, pro-abortion, agenda.
Libertarians also support the agenda at the federal level and all levels of government, from the school board to the presidency, homosexualizing the military, immigration, the FBI and federal employment, fighting DOMA and DADT.
No thanks. The 50's featured 90% top tax rates and the explosive growth of unions. We got away with terrible policies in the 50's because the rest of the world was still basically destroyed after WW2. Once everyone else got on their feet, it became more difficult to compete and we had to shed some of those awful policies of the 50's.
Tea Party is a movement—the Freedom Party would be an actual political party.
You are just looking for an argument. I said in my response to you what I want in regards to immigration. If you have an axe to grind so be it. But don’t paint me as your straw man. I don’t believe in the ideas you attribute to me. Have a nice day!
It sure looked to me as though you posted, no amnesty for the illegals here, but keep the legals coming.
Sorry, but I for one do not need a leader. What are you lacking that you need a leader?
Wrong. Watch a little real history, perhaps Monumental. Christianity played a major role in the beginnings and formation of this country.
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