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Lance Armstrong Says It's The Postal Service's Fault For.... $41 Million When He Was On Drugs
Yahoo/Business Insider ^ | 07/25/2013 | Jim Edwards

Posted on 07/25/2013 10:17:15 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd

FULL TITLE: Lance Armstrong Says It's The Postal Service's Fault For Giving Him $41 Million When He Was On Drugs

Lance Armstrong' defense of the false claims lawsuit brought against him by former cycling teammate Floyd Landis is a breathtaking act of chutzpah: It is the government's fault that his sponsor, the U.S. Postal Service, did not know he was taking drugs when he won all those Tour de Frances, Armstrong argues.

In fact, the post office liked sponsoring Armstrong when he was doping, the cyclist argues, and "got exactly what it bargained for."

Armstrong made the argument in legal papers seeking to rebut Landis' allegations that Armstrong's doping, and his lying about taking those drugs, defrauded the USPS out of its sponsorship money. USPS paid Armstrong and his team more than $41 million in sponsorship in two contracts in 1996 and 2000, the lawsuit says.

(Excerpt) Read more at finance.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 41milliondollars; lancearmstrong; pomismanagement; postoffice; whydoespoadvertise
Blame the Post Office? Sure. Whatever. Works For Me.
1 posted on 07/25/2013 10:17:15 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd
Blaming the Post Office, Mr Armstrong?
2 posted on 07/25/2013 10:20:12 AM PDT by llevrok (The American dream is but a catnap today.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

LOL....


3 posted on 07/25/2013 10:20:32 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (K I L L T H E B I L L !!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
He has a point ...

The entire sport was corrupt at the time, and I'm not convinced it has cleaned itself up yet.

4 posted on 07/25/2013 10:23:00 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Lance is such a self centered person, he started here in Plano Texas and dumped the Richardson Bike Shop owner and others who helped him start his career the first chance he had.


5 posted on 07/25/2013 10:35:41 AM PDT by pwatson
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To: ArrogantBustard

Post office can’t possibly prove damages, so the case should be dismissed.


6 posted on 07/25/2013 10:36:39 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Responsibility2nd
W H E R E

in the h^%$ did all these misfit, delusional and immature losers come from, all at once!???

Were they always with us? Why are they only NOW oozing up from the putrid miasma of our sick society? What stinking sewer have they crawled out of?

I personally DO NOT know any people like this and I hope never to meet any.

7 posted on 07/25/2013 10:38:16 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The test of every religious, political, or educational system is the man that it forms." H. Amiel)
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To: ArrogantBustard

He does NOT have a point. He’s a thief, a cheat, a liar, and the Grand Architect of Deception that cost honest people connected with the sport their reputations (calling his Irish masseuse a prostitute and a drunk, trying to wreck the business opportunities for the Andreus and Greg Lemond, who told the truth), a chance at the championship and sponsorships. He is a gold-plated thief of opportunities, a bully and a mountebank. Contrast to Chris Froome, Cadel Evans, Brad Wiggins and numerous others who did not use drugs to steal from others - I want our money back to the Postal Service from the gold-plated phony named Lance Armstrong.


8 posted on 07/25/2013 10:39:04 AM PDT by laconic
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To: Responsibility2nd

Is there anybody out there that still thinks this guy was clean? Are they in the market for a bridge?


9 posted on 07/25/2013 10:40:40 AM PDT by discostu (Go do the voodoo that you do so well.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

The P.O. got exactly what they paid for, publicity and exposure. They couldn’t have gotten more bang for the buck at any advertising agency in the world. Whether he was juicing or not is beside the point at this time.

Now, the biggest question is did the P.O. really need to spend the money for advertising? Taxpayers money???


10 posted on 07/25/2013 10:40:46 AM PDT by biff (WAS)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Because somehow the Post Office has been tarnished by Lance’s use of performance enhancers?

I don’t believe it for a second.

The crooks in the post office just want the money back because the cheating bastards are broke. They’d like to pass around another quarter billion in bonuses they can’t really afford.


11 posted on 07/25/2013 10:45:14 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Lance Armstrong Says: It's The Postal Service's Fault For Giving Him $41 Million When He Was On Drugs

and whoever at the Postal Service wrote the check must have been on drugs as well.

12 posted on 07/25/2013 10:48:26 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Responsibility2nd

I have some sympathy for American cyclists. Back then (and maybe still), all the top Euro riders were doping, the governing body refused to do anything about it, so Americans started doping to have any chance of winning. Lance turned out to be very good at doping, combined with his natural talent and started winning. That some punk American, from Texas no less, was winning their little bike race peeved the Euros no end. Hence the vendetta against Lance, while Euro riders were doing the same and worse. Now Lance made it far worse by lying and filing libel lawsuits, but still I can understand the original motivation.


13 posted on 07/25/2013 10:49:22 AM PDT by barefoot_hiker
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To: Responsibility2nd

“You f’d up, you trusted us.”


14 posted on 07/25/2013 10:50:48 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: biff

Exactly. Why does a public monopsony need to advertise? So we don’t let UPS handle the snail-mail we’re no longer sending?
And this begs an even larger question: why do we allow public agencies like the USPS and IRS to behave as if they are private companies?
Like ‘immigration reform’ and Detroit, put ‘em at the end of a long line (Dept. of Energy, Education, etc.) and let ‘em die.


15 posted on 07/25/2013 10:52:08 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: SeaHawkFan
Post office can’t possibly prove damages, so the case should be dismissed.

In the other America I would agree. Who knows in this Banana Republic but as much as I don't like LA the PO got much publicity & they should put this to rest.

16 posted on 07/25/2013 11:02:05 AM PDT by Digger
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To: Responsibility2nd

If they gave him $41 mil. when they can’t even maintain home delivery, the Postmaster is the one on drugs.


17 posted on 07/25/2013 11:06:26 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: ArrogantBustard

I think that if Lance had won one or two TdF titles no one would have noticed he was cheating. When it was seven, and with the sociopathic behavior he exhibited in winning them, he made himself a target.

I think the fact that no one has been a repeat winner since then (i.e. without getting busted like Contador did after his second win) is not just a coincidence. One-and-done champions won’t face the same scrutiny.

If you have a sport where the difference between brutal effort for almost no money and brutal effort for millions of dollars is the contents of a syringe, people will take the contents of the syringe.

The incentives are misaligned. When one person gets all the money and all the glory, the push to be that one person is intense.


18 posted on 07/25/2013 11:08:10 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: Responsibility2nd; a fool in paradise

I too blame the post office for the lines and the shortage of Johnny Cash stamps!


19 posted on 07/25/2013 11:08:54 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The fallacy is saying this group are the “good guys” and that group are the “bad guys” when there are no “good guys” or “bad guys”. Just a bunch of human beings functioning in a competitive environment.

Lance is a jerk and a proven liar but that doesn’t make him the devil incarnate. And the people lined up against Lance aren’t angels.

Somehow we never seem to be able to rid ourselves of the mythology that is sports and those that play them.


20 posted on 07/25/2013 11:16:58 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: biff
Now, the biggest question is did the P.O. really need to spend the money for advertising? Taxpayers money???

EXACTLY!

Ya know, I was caught all sorts of flames when I tried to tell FReepers what he was really like and that folks in Austin knew what a jerk he was. Oh, well.

21 posted on 07/25/2013 11:18:49 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: bgill

I was a big fan of his, but talk about twin personalities! One for public and one for private.

The performance enhancing drugs has really got me bamboozled. Should we continue the attempted bans in all sports? Or just say the hell with it, anything goes, at which time we will be having world class athletes dropping dead at the time the reach 30. Or maybe two classes, clean and drugged?

Looks like two classes: how can Roger Maris’ home runs be compared to Barry Bonds? Is it fair? Does the league care about fairness or are they worried about being racist?

Lances records as compared to other greats? How do we know the other greats weren’t doping?

All the track records are legal?

How about a pitcher raised from birth to be one and juiced since the age of 14 and throwing fastballs @ 110MPH?

Where does it stop?

This is precisely why I have completely quit watching stick and ball sports for the last 10 years.


22 posted on 07/25/2013 11:42:10 AM PDT by biff (WAS)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The dog ate my homework defense


23 posted on 07/25/2013 11:44:10 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: laconic

Your not mad because you once wore a yellow plastic bracelet, are you?/s
I knew Lance was a false hero all along, but the media hero worshipers promoted him to all. I’d bet no one claims to have once wore a “live strong” bracelet!


24 posted on 07/25/2013 11:45:46 AM PDT by 9422WMR (: " Tolerance is the virtue of a man who has no convictions".)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Armstrong is a total moron for revealing his secrets if he truly wants to retain the money.

He was in the cat bird seat with all the money for endorsements and no legal pressure to fess up.


25 posted on 07/25/2013 11:48:53 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: barefoot_hiker
I have some sympathy for American cyclists. Back then (and maybe still), all the top Euro riders were doping, the governing body refused to do anything about it, so Americans started doping to have any chance of winning. Lance turned out to be very good at doping, combined with his natural talent and started winning. That some punk American, from Texas no less, was winning their little bike race peeved the Euros no end. Hence the vendetta against Lance, while Euro riders were doing the same and worse. Now Lance made it far worse by lying and filing libel lawsuits, but still I can understand the original motivation.

Angela Corey, is that you?

26 posted on 07/25/2013 12:13:19 PM PDT by Moltke (Sapere aude!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
It got everything it bargained for from Armstrong and his cycling team.

This is the only defense Armstrong needs. All the other defenses are just legal points that needed to be made by the lawyers just in case the main defense is not successful.

Also, in order to prevail in a civil lawsuit, the plaintiff must be able to prove damages - an impossible task. There is also a huge statute of limitations problem for the plaintiffs.

I wonder which high-level executive(s) at the USPS were big cycling fans and took paid trips to watch the Tour de France by using the sponsorship as an excuse to get the government to pay for their hobby.

Also, how can anyone tarnish the image of the USPS beyond what it has done to itself?

27 posted on 07/25/2013 1:16:04 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: babble-on

It’s always about the money.


28 posted on 07/25/2013 11:38:37 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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