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Alabama Executes Killer Who Rights Group Argued Was Mentally Ill
NBC NEWS ^ | 7/26/2013 | Brendan O'Brien and Verna Gates

Posted on 07/26/2013 11:28:30 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Alabama executed a convicted murderer on Thursday who prisoners' rights groups said was mentally ill.

Andrew Reid Lackey, 29, was put to death by lethal injection at Holman Prison in Atmore, Alabama, prison officials said. It was the state's first execution since 2011. Lackey was convicted of killing Charlie Newman, an 80-year-old World War Two veteran in Athens, Alabama.

Andrew Reid Lackey, who was executed by Alabama on Thursday, was prescribed multiple psychotropic drugs, according to the Equal Justice Initiative.

Lackey made no statement before his execution, according to prison officials. He was pronounced dead at 6:25 p.m. local time (7:25 p.m. ET). Newman's grandson had told Lackey that his grandfather had a vault filled with gold bars, according to court documents.

On a 911 recording from Newman's home, the veteran's last words were, "Come sit down and let me pray for you." He was trying to calm Lackey, who was a close friend of his grandson, according to court record.

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1 posted on 07/26/2013 11:28:30 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

I am not sure how being mentally allows you to kill someone and people think you shouldn’t be punished.


2 posted on 07/26/2013 11:30:47 PM PDT by GeronL (Only kidding, I didn't fall for it... er... this time)
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To: nickcarraway

So what. Do they brutal murderers are well adjusted?


3 posted on 07/26/2013 11:31:16 PM PDT by Ophiucus
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To: nickcarraway

What a shame- one less POS for me/we the taxpayers to support.


4 posted on 07/26/2013 11:37:22 PM PDT by Kevin in California
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To: nickcarraway

What’s the problem?

All killers are mentally ill.


5 posted on 07/26/2013 11:47:01 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: nickcarraway

There are the mentally ill and then there are the mentally incompetent. Not that the difference matters anything at all to their victims.


6 posted on 07/26/2013 11:49:40 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: nickcarraway

“Come sit down and let me pray for you.”

Idiot.


7 posted on 07/26/2013 11:50:19 PM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: GeronL
I am not sure how being mentally allows you to kill someone and people think you shouldn’t be punished.

Ditto. The therapeutic treatment of evil is far more evil than the act of itself.
8 posted on 07/26/2013 11:50:45 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: nickcarraway

I think it’s better is we said the he was “put to sleep” by the State.


9 posted on 07/26/2013 11:57:35 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Democrats: Robbing Peter to buy Paul's vote.)
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To: nickcarraway
Newman's grandson had told Lackey that his grandfather had a vault filled with gold bars, according to court documents.

They executed the wrong person.

10 posted on 07/27/2013 12:12:39 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: nickcarraway

Seems all the reason more to have him taken down.


11 posted on 07/27/2013 12:49:22 AM PDT by MNDude (The system worked!)
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To: nickcarraway

There should be a new verdict:

Guilty BY reason of Gross Insanity with no hope for rehabilitation what so ever!

James Holmes would qualify for this verdict


12 posted on 07/27/2013 12:58:58 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: nickcarraway

Mentally ill? And we’re supposed to care? Why?


13 posted on 07/27/2013 1:09:43 AM PDT by Bullish (Psalm 46)
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To: nickcarraway
Sounds like he murdered a Christian.

Hussein probably wanted to give him a medal.

14 posted on 07/27/2013 1:27:00 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall With no one to raise him up; And I will set)
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To: nickcarraway
Lackey, formerly of Huntsville, was convicted in 2008 in the 2005 Halloween slaying of 80-year-old Charlie Newman (WW II Vet). He shot and stabbed Newman to death during a robbery at Newman’s home on Hine Street in Athens.

Let's add this up shall we. We are supposed to oppose the death penalty because Lackey "shot and stabbed a WWII Vet during a robbery on Halloween". How does that make sense?

15 posted on 07/27/2013 1:52:27 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: nickcarraway
This was posted in the comment section of the article. NBC crowd never ceases to amaze me.

Stig23
Let's face it, 90% of the Southern populace (Black or White) are borderline retarded, why else would they start voting Republican ?? not that the so-called Democrats are the party of the working class anymore but sleazy wedge issue (aka racism and religious intolerance) have somehow changed what was the bastion of the Democratic party into a bunch of Morlocks who vote for Republicans even though it's against their own self interests.

Example: Texas, the current Neanderthal Governor makes even Dub-ya seem like a Mensa star.

Texas, history will judge you, and I don't think it will be kind, except for a few jewels of creativity like Austin

your state would have been better left as part of Mexico.

16 posted on 07/27/2013 2:18:34 AM PDT by Leo58 (Those who cheer you today will curse you tomorrow, the only thing that endures is character.)
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To: Cowboy Bob

Call it a 119th trimester abortion and the left will be all for it.


17 posted on 07/27/2013 2:36:13 AM PDT by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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To: PA Engineer; GeronL
The point is that if you are certifiably mentally ill, you are not in your right mind. Severely mentally ill people are in a mental state where they cannot understand whether what they are doing is either right and wrong. Its not that their actions (murder in this case) are justifiable, its that they are culpable for them. This is why I always cringe when people say things like "these terrorist bombers are mad". No they are not mad. That is the frightening thing. If they were mad, I could understand and even excuse their actions. But they arent. They are completely lucid. Not mad but evil.

Of course, what the shrinks never talk about is why incidences of "paranoid schizophrenia", "multiple personality disorders" and so on are so rare in countries where having them is not a legal defence against murder :) IOW, people are playing the system...claiming insanity when they arent in order to avoid punishment.

18 posted on 07/27/2013 2:36:57 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Vanders9

sorry, I meant to say “not culpable”.


19 posted on 07/27/2013 2:37:56 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Vanders9

If the person does not need 24-7 care and attention, like a leash, with an attendant they should be help culpable


20 posted on 07/27/2013 3:06:21 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: nickcarraway

He didnt mean it.


21 posted on 07/27/2013 3:15:59 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (Yesterdays conspiracies are todays truths)
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To: GeronL

I agree. In fact, a mentally ill murderer seems even more dangerous to me. Aside from accidental or self-defense killings, I’m not sure why any murderer’s excuse amounts to a reason not to execute them.


22 posted on 07/27/2013 4:28:29 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: GeronL

If he was mentally ill, why was he loose in the public domain?


23 posted on 07/27/2013 4:37:38 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: nickcarraway

What? Are they crazy?


24 posted on 07/27/2013 4:58:31 AM PDT by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: BigCinBigD

Stupid is as stupid does. Where do you think he’s spending eternity? Who’s the idiot?


25 posted on 07/27/2013 5:15:17 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: nickcarraway

Dogs that are dangerous are put down, and no one ever tries to save them on the basis that they had a bad puppyhood or are incapable of knowing right from wrong. It’s a matter of public safety.

The execution of murderers (mentally ill or not) should be in the same category. They have demonstrated behavior that is incompatible with the safety and well-being of others. Putting them in prison does not do much to restrain that behavior, since the prison is then in the position of having to take extraordinary measures to isolate those murderers from the other prisoners, and to protect the guards. Execute them, and more prison resources can be turned towards rehabilitating the other prisoners.


26 posted on 07/27/2013 5:30:50 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: xzins

There’s a classic rule under the English Common Law that if a person does not have the mental capacity to “make their peace with their Maker” they cannot be executed.

Under that rule, Ricky Rector should not have been executed.

But, simply being mentally ill does not by itself mean a person is unable to “make peace with their Maker”.


27 posted on 07/27/2013 5:40:19 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: BykrBayb

He’s spending eternity no where.


28 posted on 07/27/2013 5:49:15 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: GeronL
I am not sure how being mentally allows you to kill someone and people think you shouldn’t be punished.

I've never understood that one either.

29 posted on 07/27/2013 5:50:13 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: BigCinBigD

You have no idea.


30 posted on 07/27/2013 5:56:49 AM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (You hear it here first.)
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To: BigCinBigD

You made a wrong turn. This is Free Republic, not Democrat Underground.


31 posted on 07/27/2013 6:05:46 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: nickcarraway

The prisoners rights group should take the positive view...his mental illness has been cured.


32 posted on 07/27/2013 6:06:47 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: DuncanWaring

My sense is that refusing to execute murderers sends the message that life is cheap.


33 posted on 07/27/2013 6:07:57 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

The number of murderers who lack the mental capacity to make their peace with their Maker is very small.


34 posted on 07/27/2013 6:13:53 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: BykrBayb

I know where I am. I was unaware that conservatism required superstition.


35 posted on 07/27/2013 6:14:55 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: DuncanWaring

Any murder overlooked says that life is cheap.


36 posted on 07/27/2013 6:20:38 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

An execution deferred due to inability to repent says that the salvation of your soul is invaluable.


37 posted on 07/27/2013 6:27:13 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: nickcarraway

Oh well. Guess they cured his mental illness.


38 posted on 07/27/2013 6:41:39 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (GOTS: Food, water, guns, ammo, useful skills, friends, cash, and precious metals.)
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To: nickcarraway

NEXT!


39 posted on 07/27/2013 6:46:35 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: nickcarraway

Garbage pickup, aisle 6!


40 posted on 07/27/2013 6:49:53 AM PDT by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: Kevin in California

29 years old.....in Kalifornia, they’re on death row doing the appeals thing longer than that.


41 posted on 07/27/2013 6:53:25 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (Carlos Danger for mayor....NYC deserves him)
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To: DuncanWaring

An execution deferred, messaging that life is cheap, means that in many places folks who had not yet repented but are murdered will go into eternity lost. So, underscoring the value of life means that the potential salvation of many souls is better than the potential salvation of one soul.


42 posted on 07/27/2013 6:56:38 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: nickcarraway

For the sake of discussion, let’s say Lackey suffered from a true mental illness and he was not responsible for his actions when he murdered an elderly man.
I contend they would be responsible for the for the murder of Mr. Newman as well as the execution of Lackey. This is the price paid because the rights of the mentally ill ( ie forced treatment) outweigh the rights of the Mr. Newman to live.


43 posted on 07/27/2013 6:57:05 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Vanders9; GeronL; PA Engineer

Those who are certifiable ought to be locked up - for our protection and theirs.

I am fairly certain that some of it is brought on and/or made worse by the drugs used to treat it. I am very wary of pill pushers and I think there are plenty of people in the head-shrinking business who are mentally ill themselves. Like some cops, they’ve just managed to be the ones on the outside of the bars.

The people in the “helping” professions who let these nutcases loose out of “compassion” for them ought to be held partially liable for some of the damage they do. They should first ask themselves if they’d want the person living next door to them.


44 posted on 07/27/2013 7:07:34 AM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: exDemMom

Capital punishment. This is one of the very few areas where I’m in agreement with the liberal left, but for vastly different reasons.

I’m against capital punishment. The major political reason is that it is dangerous in the hands of those who are evil - like the current administration. Are you willing to take the chance that Zippy, Holder, et al will not declare you to be mentally ill because you disagree with them? We’ve seen how *responsible* they are with the power of the IRS, EPA, TSA, ....

I don’t want a corrupt government having the power of life and death over me, my family, my friends, conservatives, Christians, etc. If that means keeping a few murderers in prison rather than executing them, I’m willing to do so. Not saying that heinous murderers don’t deserve the death penalty, just saying that I don’t want the government to have that power and make those decisions.


45 posted on 07/27/2013 7:15:06 AM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: BigCinBigD

Superstition?
Sad that you took a wrong turn somewhere. And going nowhere.


46 posted on 07/27/2013 7:20:48 AM PDT by libertymaker
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To: nickcarraway

Well he’s cured now.


47 posted on 07/27/2013 7:21:55 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: libertymaker
Sad that you took a wrong turn somewhere. And going nowhere.

Some have to learn the hard way. Sad that they feel the need to peddle their garbage at F.R.

48 posted on 07/27/2013 7:40:11 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: xzins

The number who would not be executed due to lacking the mental capacity to repent is small enough that execution of the remainder would provide deterrence to those capable of being deterred.

As for those not capable of being deterred, executing that small remainder would not deter them.


49 posted on 07/27/2013 8:03:44 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: generally
Agree re the drugs. They often do as much harm as good.

The problem with illnesses like schizophrenia is that they tend to be episodic. When the illness is not aflicting you, you are perfectly normal. When you are not, you are basically delusional and in severe cases are capable of hurting others and yourself. Unfortunately, there's no way of telling when the attacks are going to come.

50 posted on 07/27/2013 9:22:52 AM PDT by Vanders9
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