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MT Attorney General denies AP request for conceal carry information
8KPAX.com ^ | July 26, 2013 | MTN News Helena

Posted on 07/26/2013 11:46:06 PM PDT by Art in Idaho

HELENA - The Associated Press isn't giving reasons for requesting the personal information of all conceal carry permit holders in Montana.

On March 18, 2013, the AP requested a comprehensive list of information from the office of Montana Attorney General Tim Fox (R).

"Everything from their date of birth to their driver's license to their address, every piece of information without limitation," Fox explained in an interview with MTN News.

The request came just five days after the Montana Legislature passed a bill which makes all this information confidential.

The bill was signed by Governor Steve Bullock (D) ten days later and goes into effect October 1, 2013.

Fox says it doesn't matter that the law wasn't effective at the time of the request.

"The constitutional provisions are on the books and they have been on the books at least since 1972," Fox explains. "I balanced the right to know, which we have in our Constitution, with the right to privacy."

And Fox says the permit holders' right to privacy trumps the public's right to know.

"Montanans have a reasonable expectation of privacy when they apply for a conceal weapon permit," Fox said. "Most of them, if not all of them, have a reason they want that information kept private."

The AP isn't answering questions about why the organization wanted the information and email correspondence between Fox's office, and the AP doesn't indicate why.

The AP's bureau chief, Jim Clarke, says his organization does not comment on reporting efforts.

However, this isn't the first time a news organization has requested this type of information.

In 2012, The Journal News in New York received this type of information from the state and published a map showing the locations of every handgun owner in two New York counties. That incident gained national attention and sparked outrage from gun owners across the U.S.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Montana; US: New York
KEYWORDS: ap; associatedpress; banglist; enemedia; guncontrol; gunowners; guns; media; msn; secondamendment
When the noose tightens, throw it off and say No!

Source url: http://www.kpax.com/news/mt-attorney-general-denies-ap-request-for-conceal-carry-information/

1 posted on 07/26/2013 11:46:06 PM PDT by Art in Idaho
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To: Art in Idaho
Maybe they should just use a phone book...

Id say just about everyone here has a weapon...

2 posted on 07/26/2013 11:54:28 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: montanajoe
Good point. Same for Idaho. I wonder who in Washington D.C. told the AP to request this trial balloon?
3 posted on 07/27/2013 12:01:50 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Art in Idaho

my question exactly. you nailed it.


4 posted on 07/27/2013 12:51:52 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: GOP Poet

somebody who desperately wants to compile a database of all gun owners in America but who can’t have it.


5 posted on 07/27/2013 1:31:19 AM PDT by RC one
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To: Art in Idaho

If only the AP cared as much about Obama’s personal information. (i.e., birth certificate and multiple SS numbers, university applicatino records - as a foreign student, etc.)


6 posted on 07/27/2013 2:26:53 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Democrats: Robbing Peter to buy Paul's vote.)
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To: Art in Idaho

The AP is not “press”, it is “enemy”.


7 posted on 07/27/2013 3:02:01 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Art in Idaho

It would be nice if somebody demanded the names, addresses, phone numbers and social security numbers of everybody who works for AP.


8 posted on 07/27/2013 4:00:10 AM PDT by jespasinthru (Proud member of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy.)
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To: montanajoe
Are there still phone books?

With the number of people dumping overpriced non-mobile land line phones those books must be getting very thin.

9 posted on 07/27/2013 4:08:12 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Don't assume Shahanshah Obama will allow another election.)
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To: RC one
somebody who desperately wants to compile a database of all gun owners in America but who can’t have it.

If the NSA, CIA, EPA, DOJ, BATFE, the F, the B, and the I, DOD, et cetera have access to Visa and Master Card transactions, it should be child's play to compile a list of people who have purchased firearms or ammunition within the past five years; further, I'd guess plenty of states have already handed the feral government lists of people with concealed carry permits.

Oh, by the way, who here believes the F, the B, and the I actually destroy lists of people who fill out 4473 forms as required by law?

I've got a hunch the big question isn't whether the feral government can come up with a reasonably comprehensive, accurate list of firearms owners, but what possible good it would do the vermin.

10 posted on 07/27/2013 4:43:20 AM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: Art in Idaho

With a few exceptions the press is the enemy.


11 posted on 07/27/2013 4:46:54 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: jespasinthru

Good idea !


12 posted on 07/27/2013 5:24:18 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: Art in Idaho

Let us start by asking for the same information about all professional reporters, and let us see how they react.


13 posted on 07/27/2013 5:33:13 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: Art in Idaho

Tell them to break into houses in the dead of night - they’ll find out who does/doesn’t have weapons at the ready....


14 posted on 07/27/2013 6:36:51 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: neverdem; jazusamo; Troublemaker; Jeff Head

Everything from their date of birth to their driver’s license to their address, every piece of information without limitation


15 posted on 07/27/2013 7:34:38 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie; Born to Conserve
The Government Media Complex is a Domestic Enemy.


16 posted on 07/27/2013 9:33:09 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Art in Idaho

You’ll notice they never ask that kind of information about people who’ve had abortions.


17 posted on 07/27/2013 9:45:08 AM PDT by zeugma (Be a truechimer, not a falseticker!)
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To: Standing Wolf
feral government

We need to push this meme as hard and as often as we can.

You know what you do to a feral dog.

18 posted on 07/27/2013 9:46:59 AM PDT by zeugma (Be a truechimer, not a falseticker!)
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To: Born to Conserve
The AP is not “press”, it is “enemy”.

This is why I invented the word, "ENEMEDIA."
19 posted on 07/27/2013 9:49:19 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (IRS = Internal Revenge Service)
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To: Art in Idaho

John Lott, recently on Cspan, has made the assertion that posting the names of gun owners results in increased robberies of non-gunowners homes. I can’t imagine why.

He indicated there is data to back this up, so I imagine he will be writing about it in the (near?) future.


20 posted on 07/27/2013 12:46:28 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (When America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Art in Idaho; Velveeta; Oorang; Rushmore Rocks; MamaDearest; DAVEY CROCKETT; Myrddin; Godzilla; ...
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Check out article and comments.

What an idiotic request. What newly graduated journalist thought up this idea?

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21 posted on 07/27/2013 1:56:07 PM PDT by LucyT ("What happens in Vegas stays in the Utah data center".)
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To: Art in Idaho

Gathering info for snipers?


22 posted on 07/27/2013 2:01:29 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: ASA Vet
Are there still phone books?

Our phone books (plural) here are the same size as they've always been. Outside the city, we don't have reliable cell service so we have landlines. Because our electricty is iffy, we have to have at least one landline phone that is hard wired rather than cordless. We also don't bundle the cable/internet/phone because the cable goes out regularly, too. Yes, it all costs more to have separate backups but that's life. About those multiple phone books, we get 2-3 phone books a year because... well, I've yet to figure it out but one is put out by the phone company and the others are published through yellow page ads but none are complete so if you can't find the number in one book you might find it in another book or pull out last year's.

23 posted on 07/27/2013 3:36:13 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: Art in Idaho

The AP was trying to get the info and pass it on to Obama so he could start collecting guns.


24 posted on 07/27/2013 3:39:52 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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