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Obama: Vietnam Leader Ho Chi Minh Was Inspired by Founding Fathers
Fox News Insider ^ | 7/26/2013

Posted on 07/27/2013 6:58:45 AM PDT by markomalley

Edited on 07/27/2013 7:00:24 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

President Obama is under fire for remarks he made after meeting with Vietnam’s President Truong Tan Sang, one of the world’s few Communist leaders.

Obama appeared to compliment Vietnam’s late Communist dictator Ho Chi Minh, pointing out that the Vietnam War-era leader was inspired by none other than our Founding Fathers and documents.


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KEYWORDS: bho44; bhoasia; commievote; communists; foundingfathers; nva
Just. Wow.
1 posted on 07/27/2013 6:58:45 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Too bad HE wasn’t.


2 posted on 07/27/2013 7:00:57 AM PDT by RetSignman (Standing my ground against group think.)
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To: markomalley

Every surviving Vietnam vet, as well as the families of those 53,000 who died at the hands of Ho Chi Minh, should be at the White House protesting this outrageous statement by our un-American president, He is obviously looking for ways to insult the US military because he hates it.


3 posted on 07/27/2013 7:02:08 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: markomalley

Obama’s founding Fathers are Marx, Lennon, Mao, Stalin....


4 posted on 07/27/2013 7:03:22 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: markomalley
It's true ... he learned about everything he didn't want to do.

THAT'S being influenced ... ain't it ?

5 posted on 07/27/2013 7:08:57 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: markomalley

Actually in a revolutionary manner, Ho Chi Minh did reference the founding fathers. It was his manner of governance that was radically different. So on this one Obama is pervertedly correct.


6 posted on 07/27/2013 7:10:00 AM PDT by When do we get liberated? (A socialist is a communist who realizes he must suck at the tit of Capitalism.)
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To: markomalley

Some days, keeping an eye on BO is like watching a train wreck

The wonderful men who gave several years of their lives in ‘jail’, as they, themselves refer to it, in North Viet Nam in the late ‘60s have to witness this

Perhaps the worst for them would be having relatives who voted for ghis garbage and aren’t yet regretful for it

I don’t know

Three and a half more years to go


7 posted on 07/27/2013 7:11:13 AM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

Inneresting to see how John McCain responds.


8 posted on 07/27/2013 7:14:53 AM PDT by StAntKnee (Add your own danged sarc tag)
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To: markomalley

He’s completely psychotic. Under normal circumstances, the things he believes would serve as ample evidence to obtain and serve a mental warrant.


9 posted on 07/27/2013 7:17:14 AM PDT by Ancient Man
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To: When do we get liberated?

I remember reading about this about 15 years ago. Obama is correct, but as you say, “Obama is pervertedly correct.”


10 posted on 07/27/2013 7:18:17 AM PDT by fini
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To: markomalley

Marx, Engels, and Lenin were founding fathers?


11 posted on 07/27/2013 7:23:13 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: StAntKnee

When you meet and hear the stories of the former POW pilots, you very quickly reduce any expectations of anything John McCain might ever do

He does not act like they do

I can’t explain it, and, having not been there, i can’t say why it is

They do’t talk about him bad or good, though one said good things about him in a book he wrote

But McCain will not say anything about this is my bet


12 posted on 07/27/2013 7:23:57 AM PDT by stanne
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To: markomalley

oops . Obama falls off the Script Wagon again


13 posted on 07/27/2013 7:26:26 AM PDT by molson209
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To: markomalley

What is most sickening about this foolish president, is he gets away with saying anything, except for tight circles of conservative reporting, no one will ever know about it.

A day or two more and it will be forgotten for something he says or does that is even more outrageous, on and on it goes.

Amazingly effective strategy.


14 posted on 07/27/2013 7:32:47 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: RetSignman

If we could, just, get our dear communist reader to be inspired by the founding fathers.


15 posted on 07/27/2013 7:33:46 AM PDT by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: markomalley

Well, yeah.

Except for the rounding up of the political opposition and intellectuals in conquered areas (Hue) tying their hands with phone wire, shooting them all in the head and burying them in mass graves, then...yeah.


16 posted on 07/27/2013 7:34:21 AM PDT by rlmorel (Silence: The New Hate Speech)
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To: markomalley

Well, yeah.

Except for the rounding up of the political opposition and intellectuals in conquered areas (Hue) tying their hands with phone wire, shooting them all in the head and burying them in mass graves, then...yeah...

Just like the Founding Fathers.


17 posted on 07/27/2013 7:34:48 AM PDT by rlmorel (Silence: The New Hate Speech)
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To: txrefugee

The idiot Obama does not know history. General Giap (sp) of the NVA said that they studied the tactics of the American militia and the Continental Army during the American Revolution and employed those same tactics against us. Giap was surprised and amused that we were never able to figure that out. I am not aware of any commie Vietnamese claiming to admire the ideals of the Founding Fathers.


18 posted on 07/27/2013 7:35:18 AM PDT by Jay Redhawk (Go OSU Cowboys! Of course most of you are from Texas, but go anyway!)
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To: When do we get liberated?; fini; markomalley

No no and NO!

This conclusion that Obama is correct is totally forced and strained. No need to go there.

Fidel Castro pretended to be what WE really are. But he was fooling people just to get in power. Would it then be true to say that Castro really was what he only pretended to be??

Same is true of Ho Chi Minh. He pretended to be what WE are, because he wanted a free hand to drive out foreign powers. He wanted our sympathy because we had to drive out the Brits.

That no more means that he was actually inspired by our Founders than Castro was what he pretended.

If Obama had said that Ho SAID he was inspired by them, but left open whether or not that was true, that would be one thing.

But he didn’t. He said that Ho WAS inspired by them.

FALSE.

The whole world can see that he wasn’t any such thing.


19 posted on 07/27/2013 7:36:20 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear." - Glenn Beck)
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To: Jay Redhawk

Their “Founding Fathers” were Marx and Lenin.


20 posted on 07/27/2013 7:36:46 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: depressed in 06

After reading The Amature by Klein there isn’t anything this POS says that surprises me. The only thing I can’t figure out is how the hell did he ever get re-elected, and why isn’t the American people on the steps of Congress DEMANDING his impeachment...how stupid we are!


21 posted on 07/27/2013 7:37:39 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 (Get the USA out of the UN then get the UN out of the USA; send bamaboy back to Kenya ASAP!!!!)
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To: markomalley

It is just Obama admiring a fellow communist. But Obama could never be anything like Ho Chi Min. He could never muster the intestinal fortitude to do so.


22 posted on 07/27/2013 7:40:14 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (The Lefties can drink Kool-Aid; I will drink Tea.)
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To: markomalley

Another liberal history lesson.

A massive misrepresentation—Ho was inspired by totalitarian Marxists and communists, as is Obama.


23 posted on 07/27/2013 7:44:52 AM PDT by nonsporting
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To: nonsporting

And the vast majority of sheeple will buy Obama’s take, that’s the saddest part of all, it just goes to show how thoroughly the Left has indoctrinated people.


24 posted on 07/27/2013 7:46:53 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: HarleyLady27

I will admit his speaking can be very appealing to those that just hear but care not to think. The USA has generations of such persons who see and understand who the top sports personalities are but know very little about the sacrifices made by others in the past to provide their jollies.


25 posted on 07/27/2013 7:49:11 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: markomalley
Son of a freakin 8#*!h.

I thought Carter was bad, then Clinton but these two guys just embarrassed the nation and pushed it left.

Obozo is a complete igmo. He truly does hate this country. He hates our patriotism, our freedoms, our power and the divine nature in which it was founded.

Will we make it through this regime as a nation? So many globalist in Congress are lining up behind this buffoon to strip our nationalism, reshape history, marginalize the constitution and destroy the Bill of Rights.

Will we get through this? Will we remain a civil society?

Worried for my children's future.

26 posted on 07/27/2013 7:50:02 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: RetSignman
ah the irony...since Obama seems to have been influenced by Ho Chi Minh...
27 posted on 07/27/2013 7:51:50 AM PDT by GWynand
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To: markomalley

Well yes..

He is correct that he WAS inspired by them, and was at Versailles at the end of WW1 hoping to get U.S. support to free Indochina from French Rule per Woodrow Wilson’s 14 points declaration.

But something screwy happened on the way to Saigon, and he became a batty Communist, so that old stuff didn’t transfer over.


28 posted on 07/27/2013 7:53:06 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: markomalley

This is one case were the President Obama is correct. Ho Chi Minh was more of a single-minded Vietnamese Patriot than caring about a political system but believed the founding fathers and Jefferson were correct about freedom and the need for a “people” to rule themselves. The Vietnamese never liked French rule but the French Government increased the colonial taxes, resource production, and ruthlessness to support the rebuilding of France after WWII. The Vietnamese were angered at the treatment of the French Colonial Government and the plantation owners. So Ho Chi Minh looking for foreign support came the United States believing that the U.S. and President Truman would help the Vietnamese because of our colonial past and desire for freedom. At the time the U.S. policy was to shed colonial holdings (Philippines and Cuba) and other countries to do the same but the President was more concerned with the rise of Communism and the Soviet Bloc. Truman “needed” the French to help counter the communist movement and so refused Ho’s petition. Ho asked other European powers but was turned down in order until he went to the Soviets. So he went to the USSR and was received warmly and support was given. The Russians provided the political system, training, money, and weapons and Ho added the Marxist groups . This does not mean to me that Ho would be a western democratic leader or would not have been a dictator but felt that the U.S. was the logical social, political system to help free his people and we turned him down.


29 posted on 07/27/2013 7:54:35 AM PDT by Liaison
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To: markomalley

POTUS Obama = America hater and traitor!!!


30 posted on 07/27/2013 7:55:37 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: markomalley

He’s beyond stupid.


31 posted on 07/27/2013 8:12:32 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: markomalley
"Ho Chi Minh is a Son of a B*tch ..."Hey Øbama, you scumbag MFer, we got your Ho Chi Minh right here ...Semper Fi ...
32 posted on 07/27/2013 8:14:08 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: markomalley

Did John Kerry second this opinion?


33 posted on 07/27/2013 8:17:14 AM PDT by anoldafvet
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To: P-Marlowe

Folks the material you read here has been documented and footnoted in publications by Glen Beck, David Horowitz and other authors, but are now collectively put together in this transmission. [Google any of their names]

Any one of these ‘coincidences’ when taken singularly appear to not mean much, but when taken as a whole, a computer would blow a main circuit if you asked it to calculate the odds that they have occurred by chance alone. Sit back, get a favorite beverage, and then read and ponder the Obama-related ‘coincidences’ ... then super-impose the bigger picture of most recent events i.e. Fast and furious, Benghazi, the IRS scandal and the NSA revelations ... then pray for our country.

Obama just happened to know 60s far-left radical revolutionary William Ayers, whose father just happened to be Thomas Ayers, who just happened to be a close friend of Obama’s communist mentor Frank Marshall Davis, who just happened to work at the communist-sympathizing Chicago Defender with Vernon Jarrett, who just happened to later become the father-in-law of Iranian-born leftist Valerie Jarrett, who Obama just happened to choose as his closest White House advisor, and who just happened to have been CEO of Habitat Company, which just happened to manage public housing in Chicago, which just happened to get millions of dollars from the Illinois state legislature, and which just happened not to properly maintain the housing—which eventually just happened to require demolition.

Valerie Jarrett also just happened to work for the city of Chicago, and just happened to hire Michelle LaVaughan Robinson (later Mrs.Obama), who just happened to have worked at the Sidley Austin law firm, where former fugitive from the FBI Bernardine Dohrn also just happened to work, and where Barack Obama just happened to get a summer job.

Bernardine Dohrn just happened to be married to William Ayers, with whom she just happened to have hidden from the FBI at a San Francisco marina, along with Donald Warden, who just happened to change his name to Khalid al-Mansour, and Warden/al-Mansour just happened to be a mentor of Black Panther Party founders Huey Newton and Bobby Seale and a close associate of Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, and al-Mansour just happened to be financial adviser to a Saudi Prince, who just happened to donate cash to Harvard, for which Obama just happened to get a critical letter of recommendation from Percy Sutton, who just happened to have been the attorney for Malcolm X, who just happened to know Kenyan politician Tom Mboya, who just happened to be a close friend of Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., who just happened to meet Malcolm X when he traveled to Kenya.

Obama, Sr. just happened to have his education at the University of Hawaii paid for by the Laubach Literacy Institute, which just happened to have been supported byElizabeth Mooney Kirk, who just happened to be a friend of Malcolm X, who just happened to have been associated with the Nation of Islam, which was later headed by Louis Farrakhan, who just happens to live very close to Obama’s Chicago mansion, which also just happens to be located very close to the residence of William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, who just happen to have been occasional baby-sitters for Malia and Natasha Obama, whose parents just happened to have no concern exposing their daughters to bomb-making communists.

After attending Occidental College and Columbia University, where he just happened to have foreign Muslim roommates, Obama moved to Chicago to work for the Industrial Areas Foundation, an organization that just happened to have been founded by Marxist and radical agitator Saul “the Red” Alinsky, author of Rules for Radicals, who just happened to be the topic of Hillary Rodham Clinton’s thesis at Wellesley College, and Obama’s $25,000 salary at IAF just happened to be funded by a grant from the Woods Fund, which was founded by the Woods family, whose Sahara Coal company just happened to provide coal to Commonwealth Edison, whose CEO just happened to be Thomas Ayers, whose son William Ayers just happened to serve on the board of the Woods Fund, along with Obama.

Obama also worked on voter registration drives in Chicago in the 1980s and just happened to work with leftist political groups like the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) and Socialist International (SI), through which Obama met Carl Davidson, who just happened to travel to Cuba during the Vietnam War to sabotage the US war effort, and who just happened to be a former member of the SDS and a member of the Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism, which just happened to sponsor a 2002 anti-war rally at which Obama spoke, and which just happened to have been organized by Marilyn Katz, a former SDS activist and later public relations consultant who just happened to be a long-time friend of Obama’s political hatchet man, David Axelrod.

Obama joined Trinity United Church of Christ (TUCC), whose pastor was Reverend Jeremiah Wright, a fiery orator who just happened to preach Marxism and Black Liberation Theology and who delivered anti-white, anti-Jew, and anti-American sermons, which Obama just happened never to hear because he just happened to miss church only on the days when Wright was at his “most enthusiastic,” and Obama just happened never to notice that Oprah Winfrey left the church because it was too radical, and just happened never to notice that the church gave the vile anti-Semitic Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan a lifetime achievement award.

Although no one had ever heard of him at the time, Obama just happened to receive an impossible-to-believe $125,000 advance to write a book about race relations, which he just happened to fail to write while using the cash to vacation in Bali with his wife Michelle, and despite his record of non-writing he just happened to receive a second advance, for $40,000, from another publisher, and he eventually completed a manuscript called DreamsFrom My Father, which just happened to strongly reflect the writing style of William Ayers, who just happened to trample on an American flag for the cover photograph of the popular Chicago magazine, which Obama just happened never to see even though it appeared on newsstands throughout the city.

Obama was hired by the law firm Miner, Banhill and Galland, which just happened to specialize in negotiating state government contracts to develop low-income housing, and which just happened to deal with now-imprisoned Tony Rezko and his firm Rezar, and with slumlord Valerie Jarrett, and the law firm’s Judson Miner just happened to have been a classmate of Bernardine Dohrn, wife of William Ayers.
In 1994 Obama represented ACORN and another plaintiff in a lawsuit against Citibank for denying mortgages to blacks(Buycks-Roberson v. Citibank Federal Savings Bank), and the lawsuit just happened to result in banks being blackmailed into approving subprime loans for poor credit risks, a trend which just happened to spread nationwide, and which just happened to lead to the collapse of the housing bubble, which just happened to help Obama defeat John McCain in the 2008 presidential election.

In 1996 Obama ran for the Illinois State Senate and joined the “New Party,” which just happened to promote Marxism, and Obama was supported by Dr. Quentin Yong, a socialist who just happened to support a government takeover of the health care system.

In late 1999 Obama purportedly engaged in homosexual activities and cocaine-snorting in the back of a limousine with a man named Larry Sinclair, who claims he was contacted in late 2007 by Donald Young, who just happened to be the gay choir director of Obama’s Chicago church and who shared information with Sinclair about Obama, and Young just happened to be murdered on December 23, 2007, just weeks after Larry Bland, another gay member of the church, just happened to be murdered, and both murders just happened to have never been solved. In 2008 Sinclair held a press conference to discuss his claims, and just happened to be arrested immediately after the event, based on a warrant issued by Delaware Attorney General Beau Biden, who just happens to be the son of Joe Biden.

In 2003 Obama and his wife attended a dinner in honor of Rashid Khalidi, who just happened to be a former PLO operative, harsh critic of Israel, and advocate of Palestinian rights, and who Obama claims he does not know, even though the Obamas just happened to have dined more than once at the home of Khalidi and his wife, Mona, and just happened to have used them as occasional baby-sitters. Obama reportedly praised Khalidi at the decidedly anti-Semitic event, which William Ayers just happened to also attend, and the event Obama pretends he never attended was sponsored by the Arab American Action Network, to which Obama just happened to have funneled cash while serving on the board of the Woods Fund with William Ayers, and one speaker at the dinner remarked that if Palestinians cannot secure a return of their land, Israel “will never see a day of peace,” and entertainment at the dinner included a Muslim children’s dance whose performances just happened to include simulated beheadings with fake swords, and stomping on American, Israeli, and British flags, and Obama allegedly told the audience that “Israel has no God-given right to occupy Palestine” and there has been “genocide against the Palestinian people by (the) Israelis,” and the Los Angeles Times has a videotape of the event but just happens to refuse to make it public.

In the 2004 Illinois Democrat primary race for the US Senate, front-runner Blair Hull just happened to be forced out of the race after David Axelrod just happened to manage to get Hull’s sealed divorce records unsealed, which just happened to enable Obama to win the primary, so he could face popular Republican Jack Ryan, whose sealed child custody records from his divorce just happened to become unsealed, forcing Ryan to withdraw from the race, which just happened to enable the unqualified Obama to waltz into the US Senate, where, after a mere 143 days of work, he just happened to decide he was qualified to run for President of the United States.

“Tolerance is the last virtue of a dying society.” –Aristotle


34 posted on 07/27/2013 8:19:34 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: P-Marlowe
Obama’s founding Fathers are Marx, Lennon, Mao, Stalin....

Lets not forget Vladimir Ilyich Lenin.

35 posted on 07/27/2013 8:26:14 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: molson209

And Odumbo is “inspired” by the Vietnam Leader Ho Chi Minh.


36 posted on 07/27/2013 8:54:13 AM PDT by Progov (I'm for SMALLER , HONEST government)
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To: molson209
And Odumbo is “inspired” by the Vietnam Leader Ho Chi Minh.
37 posted on 07/27/2013 8:54:58 AM PDT by Progov (I'm for SMALLER , HONEST government)
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To: VanDeKoik

That’s a good summary.


38 posted on 07/27/2013 11:25:39 AM PDT by M1911A1
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To: Liaison

*Ahem* Ho Chi Minh joined the Comintern in 1920, that means for over 20 years he was a SOVIET AGENT.

He didn’t give a s—t about Vietnam, he was one of the founding members of the French Communist Party, for crying out loud.....He wanted a worldwide Communist revolution, kicking the Colonialists out of Indochina was just a means to an end.


39 posted on 07/27/2013 11:29:09 AM PDT by dfwgator
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