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TX:Houston woman in critical condition after pack of 15 dogs attack
wfaa.com ^ | 24 July,2013 | DREW KAREDES

Posted on 07/27/2013 8:09:36 AM PDT by marktwain

HOUSTON -- A 52-year-old Houston woman was in critical condition after a vicious mauling by a pack of at least 15 stray dogs.

It happened around 6 a.m. on Monday near Lyons and Eastex Freeway in the Fifth Ward.

According to family members, Maria Arcos was walking to a nearby bus stop. She was on her way to start her first day on a new job as a housekeeper.

Arcos only made it about halfway.

She was under an overpass when a pack of mixed-breed strays surrounded her and brought her to the ground.

“It’s a pack mentality. That can happen when there’s an aggressive act by one and it continues,” said City of Houston Animal Control Manager Chris Glaser.

Glaser said a railroad employee saw Arcos being terrorized and dialed for help.

“With that many dogs on her, she was being drug up and down the street,” Glaser said.

Arcos was still conscious when officers arrived, but her family said the stress of the mauling caused her to have a heart attack.

“Supposedly in 48 hours, if she doesn’t get better, she’s not going to make it,” said stepson Oscar Reyes.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: attack; banglist; dogs; guncontrol; houston; secondamendment; tx
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I bet the family wished that George Zimmerman were near. In a macabre twist, the pack is/was living under a mortuary.
1 posted on 07/27/2013 8:09:36 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Joe 6-pack

ping


2 posted on 07/27/2013 8:13:13 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: marktwain

Hmmmm...disturbing...however ghetto dwellers have their ghetto challenges...what is born to the ghetto sadly will likely die there...this includes humans and animals...


3 posted on 07/27/2013 8:16:39 AM PDT by Caliban (Politics is war conducted by other means...)
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4 posted on 07/27/2013 8:16:54 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: marktwain

5 posted on 07/27/2013 8:18:31 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: marktwain

When I was about 17, a dog showed up in our rural community and a bunch of dogs were packing around him. He attacked my bird dog and cut him up twice.

I happened to look down the hill across the field one day and saw about 20 dogs with him in the edge of a pasture close to a driveway leading to a poultry house. I got my gun, rode down close to where he was, jumped out of the car with my gun and shot him dead. Dogs scattered like flies and they quit packing immediately.

I feared for the lives of children playing outside in the community with dogs packing like that. We did not have, and did not need, a dog catcher in the community.

Oh yeah, did I forget to say guns are useful for protection against dangerous animals. . . which, unfortunately, sometimes includes humans.


6 posted on 07/27/2013 8:23:59 AM PDT by RatRipper (Self-centeredness, greed, envy, deceit and lawless corruption has killed this once great nation.)
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To: RatRipper

Great story. Thank you for sharing.


7 posted on 07/27/2013 8:27:14 AM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: marktwain

“It’s a pack mentality. That can happen when there’s an aggressive act by one and it continues,” said City of Houston Animal Control Manager Chris Glaser”. .............

You sure he wasn’t talking about a group of “youts”?
Sounds just their “method of operand”.

Who’s teaching the dogs?


8 posted on 07/27/2013 8:31:46 AM PDT by DaveA37 (I'm for SMALLER , HONEST government)
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To: marktwain

From back in the “good old days” of America, about 70 years ago, when pack dogs were seen as such a threat that towns would hire men to shoot them, they had some very valuable advice.

An attack by a pack of dogs can be much like a feeding frenzy of sharks. Even being armed with a handgun may not be enough, because the dogs can behave in a crazed manner. Early on, you can shoot a dog to *wound* him instead of kill him, which is preferable, because his cries may distract the others for a *short* time. But seconds count. Once they are all attacking, they are oblivious to anything but “the kill”—you.

You must get to a protected place, and quickly. If you are out in the open you are in terrible trouble. Make every bullet count.

Today things are actually worse, because there are more large dogs, and they are more of capable fighting breeds. Some are regularly fed at home, and leave to join a pack for some hours, then return home. No fear of humans at all.

If you need to hunt a pack of dogs, primary weapon is a scoped rifle. Second a handgun, and third a large bladed weapon. Don’t do it alone.


9 posted on 07/27/2013 8:34:51 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Be Brave! Fear is just the opposite of Nar!)
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To: marktwain

This is SS. Shoot and shut up. Don’t even bother shoveling.


10 posted on 07/27/2013 8:42:47 AM PDT by healy61
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To: Caliban

ghetto dwellers?

Not sure what you mean.

I lived at the edge of rural town of about 1,900 a few years ago. Several mornings, when I went outside to smoke a cig around 5 a.m. (still dark), I noticed a pack of dogs — 20 or more — come running from north to south through the northern section of the town. The pack had all sorts of sizes and breeds in it.

Packs can form in any area where there are strays or even runaway pet dogs.


11 posted on 07/27/2013 8:47:19 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: TomGuy

“Packs can form in any area where there are strays or even runaway pet dogs”.

Absolutely yes. When I was a kid, there were homes near us that had their horses mauled. Many of the poor horses had their legs broken and had to be put to sleep. The culprits? Family pet dogs that were let out in the morning hours to do their business. They essentially packed up. Some of the dogs were what we would call “foo foo” dogs. That is, small dogs like Yorkies and small poodles. There were some larger dogs as well. I am guessing the dogs met up in the morning and evening time and acted like “wolves”. How the families didn’t know when Trixie or Moxy came home blood soaked is beyond me.


12 posted on 07/27/2013 9:03:00 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: marktwain
Pack dogs do it and it's national news.
Two legged pack animals do it, and America becomes the universe's biggest "cone of silence."

Pack Attack in El Lay

13 posted on 07/27/2013 9:13:13 AM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: momtothree

Sadly, this is becoming more common as people lose their homes to Obamanomics and ‘free’ their dogs, hoping somebody will take them in rather than handing them over to shelters.

There is nothing that is untouched by the won.

I hope the poor woman makes it.

:(


14 posted on 07/27/2013 10:01:33 AM PDT by Salamander (.......Uber Alice!.......)
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To: TomGuy

I’m from Houston....Lyons and easttex is ghetto


15 posted on 07/27/2013 10:57:36 AM PDT by Caliban (Politics is war conducted by other means...)
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To: TomGuy

Houston has areas hat are notorious for animal dumping...amusing o note they are all in Sheila Jackson lees instruct...

Lyons and easttex is inner city and ghetto...

That is more disturbing than a pack of dogs out in the country...that have protein sources other than human...


16 posted on 07/27/2013 11:01:28 AM PDT by Caliban (Politics is war conducted by other means...)
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To: marktwain
Saw this on the local news the other night. They interviewed a local couple who still made the same walk daily in spite of what happened to this poor woman. I don't know what I would do if I had to walk this route to work. Arm myself would be the first thing.
17 posted on 07/27/2013 11:03:15 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Salamander
Sadly, this is becoming more common as people lose their homes to Obamanomics and ‘free’ their dogs, hoping somebody will take them in rather than handing them over to shelters.

This is EXACTLY what's going on in my neck of the desert. We live in a 70+ community 10 miles from a small town in Nevada. People fall on hard times and come out here and drop off "little Muffie", who turns out to be a mixed breed pit bull, like the one that came after my wife on the back porch.

He yelped and took off after Mr. Ruger planted a .22 hollow-point in his chest. Neighbors later asked me if I had seen "that big dog roaming about". The halo over my head was blinding.

18 posted on 07/27/2013 12:20:26 PM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Oatka

You should probably brag about shooting dumped dogs to somebody else.

Anybody who wounds -any- animal and lets it go off to die in agony sucks, IMO.

Finish the job or don’t start it.

Frankly, I’m amazed you were able to DNA the dog’s breed before you shot it.

Bravo.


19 posted on 07/27/2013 1:15:02 PM PDT by Salamander (.......Uber Alice!.......)
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To: Salamander
You should probably brag about shooting dumped dogs to somebody else.
Anybody who wounds -any- animal and lets it go off to die in agony sucks, IMO.
Finish the job or don’t start it.
Frankly, I’m amazed you were able to DNA the dog’s breed before you shot it.
Bravo.

Bravo yourself. You gonna pay for my wife's medical bill?

That wasn't bragging, just stating a fact. It's done all the time out here with feral dogs, as they have crippled people's horses.

I've had pit bull and their mutations come after me before and this boy fit the bill. ANY animal, two- or four-legged, who attacks my wife is committing suicide.

CLICK! I just added a punch to your PETA card. Now go wallow in your self-righteousness.

20 posted on 07/27/2013 1:58:07 PM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Oatka
"That wasn't bragging, just stating a fact

"Neighbors later asked me if I had seen "that big dog roaming about". The halo over my head was blinding."

ORLY?

You mean that you are capable of even greater self-aggrandizing hyperbole?

"He yelped and took off after Mr. Ruger planted a .22 hollow-point in his chest."

Point stands. You wounded an animal and didn't kill it.

Either practice more or get a bigger gun or learn to double tap ... or something.
21 posted on 07/27/2013 2:12:12 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Oatka

I did not complain that you shot the dog.

I was horrified that you had not the honor to kill it outright.

Where I live, the most -despicable- thing a ~man~ can do is leave a wounded animal to suffer.
There is literally no greater shame.

Things are apparently very different wherever *you* live.

The “she must love pETA” straw man?

Oh, please.

Spare me the stench of your desperation.


22 posted on 07/27/2013 2:23:02 PM PDT by Salamander (.......Uber Alice!.......)
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To: shibumi

“Mr Ruger’s Neighborhood”

ROFL.


23 posted on 07/27/2013 2:24:49 PM PDT by Salamander (.......Uber Alice!.......)
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To: Salamander; Oatka

I do not get upset about people shooting animals that are attacking them and other people.

That is not “fair chase” or euthanasia. It is survival.

While we do not know all the circumstances, It could well have been prudent not to unleash more rounds in a residential neighborhood.

Animals shot in the chest with a .22 usually die in a minute or so. My father told me that a deer shot through the lungs with a .22 acted the same as a deer shot through the lungs with a 30-06. They ran a hundred yards, lay down and died.


24 posted on 07/27/2013 2:33:41 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: Salamander

Can you say “Pit Bull Mix?”

Sure.

I knew you could.

Now we’re going to try saying “.22 hollow point.”

Sounds really deadly, doesn’t it?

Sure.

Let me hear you say it.

Just don’t mind te halo and let the words come out.

Sure.

I knew you could.


25 posted on 07/27/2013 2:34:43 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: marktwain

“We live in a 70+ community 10 miles from a small town in Nevada.”

Obviously not metropolitan.

*One* good shot in the head is preferable to a body shot that may or may not kill an animal.

He laughed that it ran off “yelping”.

Last year my neighbor chased a lung-shot deer four miles to dispatch it.

He did so because the humiliation and disapprobation would have been unacceptable.

Until and unless you follow it to be *sure*, you cannot say something did not suffer -unnecessarily-.

The OP did not follow the dog to be sure it died.

That is unacceptable, if no other reason than to be sure it had indeed died, leaving it no threat to anyone else.


26 posted on 07/27/2013 2:40:44 PM PDT by Salamander (.......Uber Alice!.......)
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To: shibumi

Halo Of Flies.

There.

I said it.


27 posted on 07/27/2013 2:41:38 PM PDT by Salamander (.......Uber Alice!.......)
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To: shibumi; Eaker

http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.html


28 posted on 07/27/2013 2:42:53 PM PDT by Salamander (.......Uber Alice!.......)
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To: marktwain

Lung-shot with bow and arrow, just for the sake of accuracy.


29 posted on 07/27/2013 2:43:59 PM PDT by Salamander (.......Uber Alice!.......)
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To: Oatka; shibumi; Salamander
The halo over my head was blinding.

I found your picture.

There are three kinds of people who will injure an animal leaving it to die in agony and then brag about it.

1) A cowardly POS.
2) A cowardly POS.
3) A cowardly POS.

Which one are you tough guy?

30 posted on 07/27/2013 3:12:25 PM PDT by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: marktwain; Salamander; shibumi
Animals shot in the chest with a .22 usually die in a minute or so.

You didn't enlighten Ronald Reagan with this tidbit of knowledge back in March 30, 1981?

You had until January 20, 1989 to do so.

31 posted on 07/27/2013 3:18:24 PM PDT by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: Eaker; All

“You didn’t enlighten Ronald Reagan with this tidbit of knowledge back in March 30, 1981? “

Reagan was hit with a ricochet from a short barrelled .22 revolver, an RG-14, as I recall. Even so, he almost died. It was a close thing. I do not know how long it took them to get to the hospital, but it was not very long.

Almost is not a certainty.

Clearly, there is also quite a bit of difference based on the size of the animal and the exact bullet trajectory.

While I have heard of several grizzley bears killed with a .22, I have only heard of one elephant that was killed with this caliber.


32 posted on 07/27/2013 3:31:18 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: marktwain; Oatka

The point is that the POS gut shot an animal knowing it would die in agony and is proud of it.

Since you have no trouble making wild out of your ass guesses I’ll make one too.

Oatka is probably a muslim.


33 posted on 07/27/2013 3:39:05 PM PDT by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: Eaker; Oatka

“The point is that the POS gut shot an animal”

Oatka wrote:

“He yelped and took off after Mr. Ruger planted a .22 hollow-point in his chest.”

A chest shot is not “gut shot”.


34 posted on 07/27/2013 3:51:55 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: marktwain; Oatka
A chest shot is not “gut shot”.

So he put some reverse English on the bullet causing it to stop in the dog's chest rather than ricocheting? Another ass pull?

It is clear you support his actions. That is all I need to know.

35 posted on 07/27/2013 4:09:05 PM PDT by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: Eaker; Oatka

I support him defending his wife. He says the dog was attacking her. We only have Oatka’s word for what happened.

If he chooses to explain more that is up to him.

Are you saying that you would rather that he let the dog attack his wife?

I do not know all of the circumstances, but the rules of “fair chase” do not apply to self defense.


36 posted on 07/27/2013 4:25:10 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: marktwain; Oatka
Are you saying that you would rather that he let the dog attack his wife?

I'm sorry, I thought you were fluent in the English language.

Please copy and paste where I made that statement. You should start looking at my other posts where I was pissed because the gutless piece of crap was proud that he wounded an animal and wasn't man enough to finish the job.

If you can't find it you can simply apologize for doing such a juvenile job of trying to twist my words.

Your ass should be plenty chapped after pulling that straw-man out of it.

As to "fair chase" he could have taken a second shot. He should be used to doing so since he is carrying such a pussy gun. At least he could have left out the halo part because I don't think they are passed out to POS sadists.

BTW, are you a muslim too?

37 posted on 07/27/2013 4:47:35 PM PDT by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: Eaker
1) A cowardly POS.
2) A cowardly POS.
3) A cowardly POS.
Which one are you tough guy?

4) Surely not as tough as a keyboard warrior.

Sarcasm is evidently lost on you. Since you took the time to childishly dredge up a picture from your hero file, here one I found of you:

Neener, neener.

38 posted on 07/27/2013 4:54:21 PM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: marktwain
I do not know all of the circumstances

Thank you (15 stitches in leg and arm). The thing got blown all out of proportion with that idiot completely over-reacting and flying off the handle. (I suspect he is mad because he can't stay within the lines of his coloring book.)

As far as I am concerned. he can do all the foamimg-at-the-mouth ranting he wants. God, it must feel great to be SO sanctimonious.

My responses end now (expect another schoolyard outburst from him though.)

39 posted on 07/27/2013 5:02:29 PM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Oatka
Sarcasm is evidently lost on you.

Clearly you don't know what the word "sarcasm" means.

Click Here for the definition.

40 posted on 07/27/2013 5:20:25 PM PDT by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: Oatka

I stand by everything I posted about you boy.

Happy Ramadan Mo.


41 posted on 07/27/2013 5:22:13 PM PDT by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: Eaker
marktwain asked:
“Are you saying that you would rather that he let the dog attack his wife?”

Eaker replied:
“I'm sorry, I thought you were fluent in the English language.

Please copy and paste where I made that statement.”

marktwain replies:

I asked a question. I did not write that you made any statement.

42 posted on 07/27/2013 5:31:40 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: marktwain
I asked a question.

After reading my posts on this thread who other than you and Rachel Jeantel would even consider this a valid question?

43 posted on 07/27/2013 5:58:52 PM PDT by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: Eaker

Eaker wrote:
“After reading my posts on this thread who other than you and Rachel Jeantel would even consider this a valid question?”

marktwain replies”
I leave it up to the lurkers.


44 posted on 07/27/2013 6:12:24 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: marktwain

Some people say there is no such thing as a stupid question.

You proved them wrong in spades.

If you accomplish nothing else this weekend you at least have that going for you.


45 posted on 07/27/2013 7:34:20 PM PDT by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: Oatka

Mister; you shoot and wound any animal, YOU TRACK IT AND KILL IT. Obviously you shoot a pussies gun (a 22) so you don’t have any bragging right to speak of. No MAN ever leaves any thing to suffer and die slow.


46 posted on 07/27/2013 8:18:54 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: 5th MEB

And I would call that *the* definitive post of this thread.

Nothing more need be added or subtracted.

Thank you, MEB.


47 posted on 07/27/2013 8:22:16 PM PDT by Salamander (.......Uber Alice!.......)
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To: Eaker

Why do I suspect that twain and Oatis are connected, somehow?


48 posted on 07/27/2013 8:23:55 PM PDT by Salamander (.......Uber Alice!.......)
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To: marktwain

Just to enlighten you a chest shot on any animal is not necessarily immediately lethal. I had to finally shoot the bear that was killing my livestock this last winter, I put a 30-06 round right in the center of his chest at about 1:45 am.
I had to track that bear through the snow for approximately 4 miles with a flashlight. Didn’t catch up to him until about maybe 10:30 or 11;00 am, he was still alive, bleeding and real pissed off when I put the second round through his head.


49 posted on 07/27/2013 8:34:39 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: Salamander

Yep.


50 posted on 07/27/2013 8:38:37 PM PDT by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. Robert A. Heinlein.)
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