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New York Times weighs in on ‘vindictive’ recall of Colorado Dems
Daily Caller ^ | 6:23 PM 07/26/2013 | Greg Campbell

Posted on 07/27/2013 2:52:17 PM PDT by Red Steel

Two Democratic Colorado state senators who are facing recall elections on Sept. 10 got The New York Times’ endorsement Friday.

The Gray Lady came out with an editorial calling the ballot-box showdown an important “barometer of whether the public, which repeatedly registers support for tougher gun controls in surveys, will show up at the ballot to defend politicians who bucked the gun lobby.”

The editorial plainly characterized the recalls of Senate President John Morse and Sen. Angela Giron as a fight between common-sense politicians and “the reckless agenda” of the National Rifle Association, which it said Colorado has traditionally embraced.

The Times called the recall attempts “vindictive” and “vengeful.”

The recall elections stem from the lawmakers’ support of two controversial new bills limiting ammunition magazines to 15 rounds and requiring universal background checks for all gun sales.

Morse opponent Laura Carno, who founded a group called I Am Created Equal that raised money for the recall, said the Times piece mischaracterized the NRA’s involvement.

“The New York Times seems to want to convince people that this was an NRA-driven national big organization type of thing,” she said in an interview with The Daily Caller News Foundation, “and they could not be further from the truth.”

She said the recalls were initiated by locals and driven by grassroots support, even though the NRA has had a hand in helping the effort.

The group, which lobbied hard against these and other new gun control laws (NRA president David Keene even met with Morse and Gov. John Hickenlooper behind closed doors while the bills were being debated), sent flyers to voters in Morse’s district saying it was coordinating his recall with local group Basic Freedom Defense Fund.

Still, it’s been clear for months that national interests on both sides of the gun debate have a stake in the outcome of the recall elections.

When the Colorado legislature debated the bills earlier this year, Vice President Joe Biden, who spearheaded gun-control discussions in Washington, phoned key Democrats to shore up their support. New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who runs a gun control group called Mayors Against Illegal Guns (MAIG), called Hickenlooper just before Hickenlooper signed the bills into law.

MAIG also organized a “No More Names” event in Aurora during the anniversary of the mass theater shooting there in which the names of gun violence victims were read aloud for more than 11 hours.

The Times editorial said that how the recalls play out may well dictate the direction of gun control in America. And it made clear that it wants victory for Morse and Giron.

“For all the message of risk for politicians embodied in the vengeful recall attempt, there is a parallel opportunity for the public to rebuff the gun industry,” it read. “But enough voters must show up in defense of two lawmakers who conscientiously stood for public safety.”

“The gun lobby’s defeat in Colorado would send a stirring message to statehouses across the nation that the public must not be denied in demanding better gun safety,” the editorial read.

Carno agrees that the outcome of the elections may have national implications, but for reasons that are different from those of the Times editorial board. She said that if the recall is successful, it will show lawmakers that they risk their political careers if they stop paying attention to their constituents.

“What’s going on across the country is [the message] that if you listen to people other than your constituents, your constituents have the right to fire you,” she said. “And that’s what’s happening.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; US: Colorado; US: New York
KEYWORDS: angelagiron; banglist; colorado; davidkeene; giron; guncontrol; joebiden; johnhickenlooper; johnmorse; lauracarno; michaelbloomberg; morse; newyork; newyorkslimes; newyorktimes; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; secondamendment

1 posted on 07/27/2013 2:52:17 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

because Democrats would NEVER never ever maliciously recall anyone.... *whistles*


2 posted on 07/27/2013 2:53:30 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Red Steel

Since when is a constituency holding an elected official accountable vindictive?


3 posted on 07/27/2013 2:54:08 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

When the politician in question is a Democrat. If he were a Republican, then it would be an example of the system’s just and perfect operation.


4 posted on 07/27/2013 2:55:18 PM PDT by dinodino
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To: Red Steel
"Vindictive and vengeful" for voters to demand that politicians heed what their constituency wants.

What a concept..........

5 posted on 07/27/2013 2:55:52 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Red Steel

Waaaaaah whining New York Slimes can’t stand that duh Dems lost in their appeals to the CO Secretary of State, and in a Denver Court to cheat the citizens out of their CO Constitutional rights to recall corrupt politicians.

Waaah the New York Times will be crying again on September 10th.


6 posted on 07/27/2013 2:58:39 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

However, the New Yawk Times pimps and hookers didn’t find the recall of politicians in Wisconsin “vindictive” a few years ago. Hey New Yawk Times! Stuff it! Go campaign and endorse your Weiner.


7 posted on 07/27/2013 3:00:08 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Amnesty. The DemocRATS' payback for the 2010 elections.)
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To: Red Steel
The world according to the New York Times:

  1. IRS illegally targeting conservatives for their political views: Not vindictive.

  2. Citizens legally exercising a well-established state right of recall: Vindictive.
The New York Times STAYS insane.
8 posted on 07/27/2013 3:00:13 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Red Steel
“The gun lobby’s defeat in Colorado would send a stirring message to statehouses across the nation that the public must not be denied in demanding better gun safety,” the editorial read.

Rather crude bit of framing there, but then the Times is like that. The whole affair is The Public vs the Evil Gun Lobby. Because who knows what's best for The Public better than a bunch of suited millionaires on the editorial board of the NY Times half a country away?

9 posted on 07/27/2013 3:01:05 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Red Steel

This may be counter-productive. I suspect not too many in Colorado pay much attention to the NYT, and may resent the interference.


10 posted on 07/27/2013 3:07:17 PM PDT by expat2
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To: Red Steel

Well vengeance is their leader’s most relied upon tool when it comes to voting, so...


11 posted on 07/27/2013 3:07:18 PM PDT by R0CK3T
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To: Red Steel

NYT backs Dems, next thing you know the Pope will back prayer.


12 posted on 07/27/2013 3:09:44 PM PDT by dblshot (I am John Galt.)
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To: Red Steel
And when lefties in Wisconsin tried (and failed dismally) to recall Scott Walker, that was just "democracy in action," huh?

Shut up, Times. Obama's boots need a spit shine.

13 posted on 07/27/2013 3:13:43 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Lazamataz

I am making a list...

and checking it thrice...


14 posted on 07/27/2013 3:20:34 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: expat2
Already annoyed at NYC Bloominidiot interfering.
15 posted on 07/27/2013 3:22:18 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: IronJack

“Shut up, Times. Obama’s boots need a spit shine.”

I do no think it is Obama’s boots the NYT is slobbering over


16 posted on 07/27/2013 3:28:54 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: Red Steel
But the recalls in Wisconsin were NOT vindictive?

-PJ

17 posted on 07/27/2013 3:30:57 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: MileHi; dhs12345; neverdem; ColoCowgirl; RandallFlagg; dynachrome; beaversmom; GSWarrior; ...

Colorado Ping ( Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from the list.)


18 posted on 07/27/2013 3:31:05 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

New York Slimes ping. Thanks Red Steel.


19 posted on 07/27/2013 3:36:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: Fai Mao
I do no think it is Obama’s boots the NYT is slobbering over

Thanks. Now I need to wash my imagination out with soap.

20 posted on 07/27/2013 3:37:01 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Political Junkie Too

The NYT just admitted with their own ink on their own paper they believe their OWN bullshit.

‘.. whether the public, which repeatedly registers support for tougher gun controls in surveys, will show up at the ballot to defend politicians who bucked the gun lobby.”

Record gun sales since zero was coronated. Citing push polls for gun-grabbers.

I personally attribute to malice what cannot be explained by pure stupidity.


21 posted on 07/27/2013 3:43:16 PM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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To: Red Steel

NYT backs Dems?

I am shocked!/s


22 posted on 07/27/2013 3:44:03 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Red Steel
feh...
23 posted on 07/27/2013 3:49:13 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Red Steel

I do not think it is vindictive, But you people in the New York Slimes, I defy you to do something about it.


24 posted on 07/27/2013 3:56:51 PM PDT by Mark17
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To: GeronL

Or refuse to enforce a law that they disagree with.


25 posted on 07/27/2013 4:12:35 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Red Steel

Some one should send the the NYT that crying baby picture if the two are booted.


26 posted on 07/27/2013 4:15:59 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Red Steel; george76

“New York Times’ endorsement Friday”

Should be the kiss of death for those scum.


27 posted on 07/27/2013 4:33:21 PM PDT by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: Red Steel; marktwain
The Gray Lady came out with an editorial calling the ballot-box showdown an important “barometer of whether the public, which repeatedly registers support for tougher gun controls in surveys, will show up at the ballot to defend politicians who bucked the gun lobby.”

When a major newspapers calls something a 'barometer' it means they've polled the issue and feel their side's going to win. If our side wins The New York Times will find a way to prove the results are meaningless.

28 posted on 07/27/2013 4:53:40 PM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat dream: An America for everyone but Americans... freeper molson209)
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To: GOPJ
"When a major newspapers calls something a 'barometer' it means they've polled the issue and feel their side's going to win. If our side wins The New York Times will find a way to prove the results are meaningless."

Wondering how accurate NY Times polling might be for a September local election in Colorado where there is a marked difference in intensity between the two sides.

The Wisconsin recalls were less than successful because Gov. Walker's supporters are people who would walk over hot coals to get to the polls, the 'rats need to be dragged there. Could see the opposite result in the Colorado recalls.

29 posted on 07/27/2013 5:13:07 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Red Steel
Bang!

5.56mm

30 posted on 07/27/2013 5:14:56 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Red Steel

http://coloradopeakpolitics.com/tag/john-morse/

Bloomberg and NYT are probably hurting Morse rather than helping him.


31 posted on 07/27/2013 5:16:47 PM PDT by Atlantan
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To: Atlantan

Why Bloomberg should visit Morse. ;-)


32 posted on 07/27/2013 5:27:34 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

CO sheriffs fighting back—made the cover of NRA magazine.

http://coloradopeakpolitics.com/2013/07/21/peak-feed-co-sheriffs-take-nra-cover/


33 posted on 07/27/2013 5:35:37 PM PDT by Atlantan
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To: Atlantan
Yup. ;-)

PeakFeed: CO Sheriffs Take NRA Cover
Colorado Peak Politics ^ | July 21, 2013 | ColoradoPeakPolitics
Posted on Tuesday, July 23, 2013 7:29:10 PM by Red Steel

34 posted on 07/27/2013 5:50:05 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

It’s the Times - what would one expect?


35 posted on 07/27/2013 6:55:56 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: GeronL

Gov. Walker of Wisconsin comes to mind.


36 posted on 07/27/2013 7:25:26 PM PDT by mfish13 (ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES!!!!)
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To: mfish13

exactly


37 posted on 07/27/2013 7:25:43 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Lazamataz
The New York Times STAYS insane.

Not really. They're sane ..... just mendacious, political, and ideologically-driven. Their eyes also glow green in the dark with their diseased power need, but that's a different matter.

38 posted on 07/27/2013 10:57:20 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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