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Sen. Ted Cruz Triumphs in 2016 Presidential Straw Poll: Wins Early GOP Vote Over Walker, Paul
Washington TImes ^ | 5 minutes ago | By Matthew Patane

Posted on 07/28/2013 6:13:04 PM PDT by drewh

Sen. Ted Cruz hasn’t said whether he has presidential ambitions, but Sunday he won one of the first straw polls for the 2016 Republican presidential nomination.

The Texas Republican captured 45 percent of the 504 votes cast by attendees at the Western Conservative Summit, a day after drawing several standing ovations during his luncheon speech at the fourth annual conference.

“We shall see what sort of crystal ball summiteers have in awarding that decisive nod to Sen. Ted Cruz, who was so magnificent from this platform,” said John Andrews, founder of the Centennial Institute at Colorado Christian University, which hosted the event.

Placing second was Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, who delivered the keynote address Friday at the three-day summit, with 13 percent of the vote.

Tied for third were Sen. Rand Paul, Kentucky Republican, and former Rep. Allen B. West, Florida Republican, with 9 percent each. Mr. West was the conference’s featured speaker Sunday, while Mr. Paul received the most votes among those on the ballot who didn’t attend the conference.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Florida; US: Kentucky; US: Texas; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: 2016gopprimary; 2016strawpolls; allenwest; birthers; chrischristie; cruz; cruz2016; florida; johnandrews; kentucky; marcorubio; naturalborncitizen; newjersey; paul; randsconcerntrolls; scottwalker; texas; walker; wisconsin
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1 posted on 07/28/2013 6:13:04 PM PDT by drewh
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To: drewh

If anyone sees anyone else that’s more conservative and more trustworthy, let me know.


2 posted on 07/28/2013 6:14:04 PM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: drewh

To bad but the fact is Ted Cruz is just a U.S. Citizen. He is not a Constitutional U.S. natural born Citizen as required by Article 2 Section 1, the presidential clause.


3 posted on 07/28/2013 6:16:36 PM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: LibFreeUSA

I’ll sure vote for this guy if i get the chance.


4 posted on 07/28/2013 6:17:14 PM PDT by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: drewh

Since the media and Democrats are so big on “diversity” and all that, the Republicans can easily compete in this area.

Ted Cruz, Allen West, Bobby Jindal, Nikki Haley, Sarah Palin, Susana Martinez, among others. All of these are women or ethnic minorities. In 2016 we may well face the media pushing Hillary to be elected as the historic first woman president. It would be nice to have someone in the GOP to blunt such a message.

Imagine a Sarah Palin vs. Hillary election. It would be nice to see the media explain why Sarah Palin would not be fitting as the first woman president, while they push Hillary for this role.


5 posted on 07/28/2013 6:17:51 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

And this debate will go on and on about natural born citizenship. As I understand it, the courts have never ruled on exactly what natural born citizen means. And, unless someone starts a court challenge to Ted Cruz or anyone else on those grounds, realistically, nothing would keep such a person from running for president.


6 posted on 07/28/2013 6:19:20 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

“To bad but the fact is Ted Cruz is just a U.S. Citizen.”

Like that fact hasn’t stop a certain idiot from Kenya.


7 posted on 07/28/2013 6:22:24 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Dilbert San Diego

The argument that he is, in fact, natural born is a compelling one. He never ‘became’ a US citizen at a later time. He was born of an American mother and immediately was a US citizen. Either there is a record that he later was naturalized at some later point, or he wasn’t. If there is such a record, that might be different.


8 posted on 07/28/2013 6:22:56 PM PDT by ilgipper (Obama is proving that very bad ideas can be wrapped up in pretty words)
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To: drewh

He’s my choice, but these stories mean less than nothing at this point. Zip, zero nada.


9 posted on 07/28/2013 6:27:10 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: drewh

He’s my choice, but these stories mean less than nothing at this point. Zip, zero nada.


10 posted on 07/28/2013 6:27:23 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

zzzzzz


11 posted on 07/28/2013 6:28:14 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

Where was Cruz born, or his parents born?


12 posted on 07/28/2013 6:28:21 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: drewh

Everyone repeat after me:

ALL STRAW POLLS ARE WORTHLES.

Even the ones whose results you like.


13 posted on 07/28/2013 6:29:41 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist

Heh...WORTHLESS.

Had my Beeber set wrong.


14 posted on 07/28/2013 6:30:33 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

Ted Cruz is just a U.S. Citizen

Then he is one up on Obama.


15 posted on 07/28/2013 6:30:46 PM PDT by True Grit
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Cruz was born in Canada
His mother was born in the US of American citizen parents
His father was born in Cuba and was not an American citizen when he was born


16 posted on 07/28/2013 6:32:50 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Cruz was born in Canada
His mother was born in the US of American citizen parents
His father was born in Cuba and was not an American citizen when Ted was born


17 posted on 07/28/2013 6:33:49 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

If that’s the case, Cruz definitely does not fulfill the natural born citizen as mentioned in the constitution. They would not address this for Obama, but I bet you they’d do it to Cruz.


18 posted on 07/28/2013 6:38:54 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: drewh

Gee, going to extremes worked so well doing it over and over again has to be the way to go. Free republic, keeping dems in for for ever...


19 posted on 07/28/2013 6:40:44 PM PDT by NTW64 (...)
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To: LibFreeUSA

Will those who desire to stop him say he is not fulfill the requirements as Natural Born Citizen......


20 posted on 07/28/2013 6:41:43 PM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: drewh

This can’t be true. Why just the other day I was hearing the lame stream media crowing about Chris Christie being the nominee.

I will NOT vote for another phony conservative. RINOS be damned!

Go Cruz!


21 posted on 07/28/2013 6:42:10 PM PDT by unixfox
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I don’t understand all of this hubub about Cruz’ citizenship. Hello! We have a Kenyan/Indonesian in the White House, and it wasn’t like McLame was really born here either. In the end, it will likely come down to a senate permission slip, which they would give to him out of courtesy.

That being said, Cruz is an excellent champion for liberty and the American way. His debate skill would also come in handy against a shrill Killery, a grinning Plugs, or a Sitting Bull.

Cruz Control!


22 posted on 07/28/2013 6:43:14 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: drewh

NO!
NO!
NO!

We MUST have a RINO! A RINO! RINORINORINO!!!!!!!!


23 posted on 07/28/2013 6:47:35 PM PDT by Flintlock ("The redcoats are coming" -- TO SEIZE OUR GUNS!!--Paul Revere)
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To: LibFreeUSA

I’m with Ted all the way. Let’s start now!!


24 posted on 07/28/2013 6:51:49 PM PDT by lu shissler (ecause)
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

It really doesn’t matter at this point. If states are going to allow him on the ballot, then he can be President.


25 posted on 07/28/2013 6:52:33 PM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: rovenstinez

Only the RINOs.


26 posted on 07/28/2013 6:52:48 PM PDT by lu shissler (ecause)
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

Until Obama is removed from “office” and all acts of his “administration” are nullified, I am supporting the Republican I think will govern the most justly and wisely, regardless of his NBC status.


27 posted on 07/28/2013 6:55:50 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: rovenstinez
-"Will those who desire to stop him say he is not fulfill the requirements as Natural Born Citizen......"

The way I look at this, is that anyone who believes this, has either two choices, either they don't vote for him, or they vote for him.

The only one to be able to stop him is the Supreme Court, by taking a case directly, defining, and ruling on the 'Constitutional' interpretation for being a "Natural Born" citizen.

It's as simple as that!

This issue, whether we like it or not, has already 'crossed the Rubicon' with the election of Barack Hussein Obama.

28 posted on 07/28/2013 6:58:51 PM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: rovenstinez

The Dems OBots will be all over him on the NBC issue. They know no hypocrisy... if Cruz runs.


29 posted on 07/28/2013 7:00:50 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: drewh

Ted Cruz is my choice. I friended him on facebook and I find myself loving his comments every day.


30 posted on 07/28/2013 7:02:41 PM PDT by agrarianlady
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To: LibFreeUSA

He’s got it all, from what I can tell.


31 posted on 07/28/2013 7:04:05 PM PDT by Joann37
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To: drewh
STFU Birthers!
I am ALL IN FOR CRUZ!
32 posted on 07/28/2013 7:04:20 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

You are on the lunatic fringe.
NOBODY with any authority at law, agrees with you.
Cruz is QUALIFIED to be President.


33 posted on 07/28/2013 7:05:19 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Dilbert San Diego; All
The Courts are given very little jurisdiction over these matters, by the Constitution.
Strange that the same idiots who claim to be “Constitutional Purists” can not point to any place in the Constitution where the Courts are given the power to disqualify a Candidate for President. That Power is given to the States and to the Electors and to Congress.
Cruz is Qualified.
I want Cruz to run for many reasons, not the least of which is that I can't stand these idiot birthers who think they own the Constitution and the English language and the Law, all by themselves!
34 posted on 07/28/2013 7:08:49 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
You do not understand the law if you ask such questions.
Natural Born Citizen means CITIZEN AT BIRTH and nothing else. Cruz was a Citizen at the moment of his birth. That is all that is required.
35 posted on 07/28/2013 7:10:05 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Tennessee Nana

Cruz was a citizen of the United States at the moment of birth.
That is ALL that is required for Cruz to be President.
You have NO legal authority on your side who disagrees with me on that point.


36 posted on 07/28/2013 7:11:22 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: drewh

The MSM is going to keep pushing Christie probably


37 posted on 07/28/2013 7:12:29 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

>>To bad but the fact is Ted Cruz is just a U.S. Citizen. He is not a Constitutional U.S. natural born Citizen as required by Article 2 Section 1, the presidential clause.<<

Damnit! I was hoping for other, but Cruz was born in Canada of at least one non-USA parent (his dad, who didn’t become a citizen until 2005).

He doesn’t have the fig leaf of a fake birth thousands of miles from his real birth like the first kenyan.

Cruz suffers from a Conservative illness: telling the truth.


38 posted on 07/28/2013 7:12:46 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ("Task" is a noun. "Ask" is a verb. "Disconnect" is a noun. "Data" is a plural-not collective-noun.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Nonsense!
Cruz is a Natural Born Citizen.
Cruz was NOT “Naturalized” and Cruz was a Citizen from the moment of his birth.
You are spouting tin foil hat nonsense with no valid legal authority on your side.
39 posted on 07/28/2013 7:13:07 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

>>Where was Cruz born, or his parents born?<<

He was born in Canada. His dad was born in Cuba and his mom in Delaware.

IMHO, that makes him the same as the first kenyan, who, had he not lied, would not have been eligible.

Unless we are pressing for ONE USA parent as sufficient for Natural Born Citizen.


40 posted on 07/28/2013 7:15:01 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ("Task" is a noun. "Ask" is a verb. "Disconnect" is a noun. "Data" is a plural-not collective-noun.)
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To: LibFreeUSA
Not to disagree to harshly, but I really do not think the Supreme Court will ever touch this issue with a 10 foot poll. This is a POLITICAL Decision, ON PURPOSE! The power was given to the State POLITICAL SYSTEMS and the Power was given to CONGRESS to decide eligibility. The Courts will stay out of it.
Birthers are LIBERALS who support Judicial Supremacy, which is ANATHAMA to true Conservatism.
41 posted on 07/28/2013 7:17:15 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

How is someone born in Canada, with one parent in Cuba, a natural born citizen? Unless that isn’t true, I don’t see how you can claim otherwise.


42 posted on 07/28/2013 7:17:24 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: freedumb2003

At the time of his birth, Cruz met the qualifications for Citizenship at Birth.
That is ALL that is required.
Cruz is eligible to be President.


43 posted on 07/28/2013 7:19:46 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: freedumb2003

Yes, if that One Citizen parent was OLD ENOUGH to pass on automatic citizenship, based on both age and residency requirements at the time of birth.
Natural Born Citizen means Citizenship at the moment of birth and NOTHING ELSE!
We have only 2 forms of citizenship in the USA:
Natural Born
Naturalized
If you are a citizen at the moment of birth you are a natural born citizen, PERIOD!


44 posted on 07/28/2013 7:22:43 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Why don’t you do some homework on VALID legal sites, before you state nonsense?
I suggest you go to the US Department of State website and look at the Passport Application page. That Page will tell you what the rules were for various dates of birth, to obtain citizenship by birthright.
There are only TWO forms of Citizenship in the USA:
NATURAL BORN (Anyone who obtains citizenship by birthright)
Naturalized (Anyone who was not a citizen at birth but becomes a citizen through a formal Naturalization application and process)


45 posted on 07/28/2013 7:26:06 PM PDT by Kansas58
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>>Yes, if that One Citizen parent was OLD ENOUGH to pass on automatic citizenship, based on both age and residency requirements at the time of birth.
Natural Born Citizen means Citizenship at the moment of birth and NOTHING ELSE!<<

I am good with that. His mom was 100% USA and the Father a legal resident.

A lot more than the 1st kenyan had.


46 posted on 07/28/2013 7:28:07 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ("Task" is a noun. "Ask" is a verb. "Disconnect" is a noun. "Data" is a plural-not collective-noun.)
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To: Kansas58

“NATURAL BORN (Anyone who obtains citizenship by birthright)
Naturalized (Anyone who was not a citizen at birth but becomes a citizen through a formal Naturalization application and process)’


I’m willing to believe you if the facts are on your side, but how is Cruz eligible to be “natural born,” obtained via “birth right,” when he is born in a different country and has only one parent who is actually from the U.S.? Does the law make room for someone not born in this country, with only one U.S. citizen parent, to yet be considered a natural born citizen?


47 posted on 07/28/2013 7:31:00 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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Then kid why didnt you kick up a big fat stink when the Senate insisted on voting on the eligibility of John McCain ???


48 posted on 07/28/2013 7:35:02 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Again, go to the US Department of State Website, and look at the passport application. You will see questions about where you were born. Those born abroad are linked to information that describes the laws on Birthright Citizenship at various times in our history.
There are age requirements for the parents, or PARENT, and residency requirements.
Cruz is qualified.


49 posted on 07/28/2013 7:35:33 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Tennessee Nana; All

Birth of U.S. Citizens Abroad
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A child born abroad to a U.S. citizen parent or parents may acquire U.S. citizenship at birth if certain statutory requirements are met. The child’s parents should contact the nearest U.S. embassy or consulate to apply for a Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a Citizen of the United States of America (CRBA) to document that the child is a U.S. citizen. If the U.S. embassy or consulate determines that the child acquired U.S. citizenship at birth, a consular officer will approve the CRBA application and the Department of State will issue a CRBA, also called a Form FS-240, in the child’s name.

According to U.S. law, a CRBA is proof of U.S. citizenship and may be used to obtain a U.S. passport and register for school, among other purposes.

The child’s parents may choose to apply for a U.S. passport for the child at the same time that they apply for a CRBA. Parents may also choose to apply only for a U.S. passport for the child. Like a CRBA, a full validity, unexpired U.S. passport is proof of U.S. citizenship.

Parents of a child born abroad to a U.S. citizen or citizens should apply for a CRBA and/or a U.S. passport for the child as soon as possible. Failure to promptly document a child who meets the statutory requirements for acquiring U.S. citizenship at birth may cause problems for the parents and the child when attempting to establish the child’s U.S. citizenship and eligibility for the rights and benefits of U.S. citizenship, including entry into the United States. By law, U.S. citizens, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and leave the United States.

Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a U.S. Citizen (CRBA, or Form FS-240)

If you are a U.S. citizen and have a child overseas, you should report his or her birth as soon as possible so that, if the child acquired U.S. citizenship at birth, a Consular Report of Birth Abroad (CRBA) can be issued as an official record of his/her U.S. citizenship. Report the birth of your child abroad at the nearest U.S. embassy or consulate. Check the American Citizens Services portion of the webpage for the embassy or consulate closest to where your child was born for further instructions about how to apply for a CRBA. Please note:
•A Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a U.S. citizen is only issued to a child who acquired U.S. citizenship at birth and who is generally under the age of 18 at the time of the application.
•The U.S. embassy or consulate will provide one original copy of an eligible child’s Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a U.S. Citizen.
•A more secure Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a U.S. Citizen was introduced in January 2011. This new CRBA has been updated with a variety of state of the art security features, and is printed centrally in the United States. U.S. embassies and consulates no longer print CRBAs locally, but you still must apply there. The central production was initiated to ensure uniform quality and reduce vulnerability to fraud. The previous version of the CRBA continues to be valid proof of U.S. citizenship.
•You may replace, amend or request multiple copies of a Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a U.S. Citizen at any time.
•Persons born in one of the following territories or former territories of the United States were not born abroad and, thus, would not be eligible for a Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a U.S. Citizen. Such persons acquired U.S. citizenship by birth within the territorial United States and therefore, in general, would only need a birth certificate from their respective Vital Records Office to establish acquisition at birth pursuant to the 14th Amendment to the Constitution:

Puerto Rico

U.S. Virgin Islands American Samoa

Guam

Swains Island

The Panama Canal Zone before October 1, 1979

The Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands prior to 1986

The Philippines before July 4, 1946

The former U.S. Trust Territories of the Pacific Islands

Other Citizenship Documents Issued to U.S. Citizens Born Abroad

Certification of Report of Birth (DS-1350)

As of December 31, 2010, the Department of State no longer issues Certifications of Reports of Births (DS-1350). All previously issued DS-1350s are still valid for proof of identity, citizenship, and other legal purposes.

Certificate of Citizenship issued by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS)

A person born abroad who acquired U.S. citizenship at birth but who is over the age of 18 (and so not eligible for a CRBA) may wish to apply for a Certificate of Citizenship to document acquisition pursuant to 8 U.S.C. 1452. Visit USCIS.gov for further information.


50 posted on 07/28/2013 7:42:19 PM PDT by Kansas58
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